by hilzoy
In a recent comment, Charles has said:
“Noted, that the lefties in this thread and in my most recent post think Iraq is a lost cause. In my view, it’s only lost if we lose our political will to prevail. That should’ve been a prime lesson learned from Vietnam. Sadly, it looks like that lesson didn’t take here.”
He has also referred to “the troubling liberal-left “can’t do” attitude that I’m seeing more and more of”, and repeated the claim that Iraq is “only a lost cause if enough people like you believe it is.”
I will leave aside the fantastical idea that liberal defeatism, or for that matter liberal anything, could be responsible if we suffer a defeat in Iraq. I want instead to think about ‘defeatism’. When I read Charles’ comments, I was reminded of the time when the shelter I was working at got a new executive director. We were all happy to have her, and we all gave her the benefit of the doubt at first, even when she did things that struck us as odd. Then, about six weeks into her job, she had a retreat, where most of us got to see her in action for the first time. At one point, she was talking about the need to bring more volunteers into the organization, and in the discussion said that it would be interesting to think about having them take over some of the shifts, alone. One of the people whose job it was to do things like negotiate our insurance said: unfortunately, it’s written into our insurance policy that we have to have a paid staffer present at all times. And our new executive director said: “You see, I think that’s just the kind of negative thinking we need to do away with around here.” The person who had pointed out the insurance problem said: I’m not trying to be negative; it’s just that if we did that, we would, in fact, lose our insurance.
Now: our new executive director had, until her arrival at our shelter, lived in Alberta. She had no knowledge of US federal, state, or local laws, funding organizations, or, well, insurance regulations. But she went off on this tear about how all she was hearing was negativity; no willingness to try fresh new thoughts; just a kind of hidebound throwing up of obstacles. I couldn’t see what she was talking about: nothing in the previous discussion had struck me that way at all, nor were my co-workers an inflexible, defeatist bunch. It was just that, in this specific case, what she wanted to try was not, in fact, possible, and someone had tried to say so.
Which is all a long way of saying: when someone says that something can’t be done, it could be defeatist, or it could be a recognition of reality. And when someone else responds that the first person is defeatist, it could be right, or it could be a way of denying reality by attacking those who try to describe the features the second person doesn’t want to hear about.
Before I’m willing to accept the charge that people on the left are defeatist, I want to hear some actual reasons for thinking (a) that we can, in fact, achieve our goals in Iraq, and (b) that we can do so while being led by George W. Bush, a man who has driven such Bush-hating, latte-drinking, Michael Moore-embracing, Islamofascist-coddling members of the loony left as von to ask: “What the Hell does a guy have to do to get fired in this town?” For the record, this does not seem to me to be an adequate response:
“The fact remains that we are the most powerful country in human history, and our main opposition are groups of paramilitary thugs and mostly non-Iraqi terrorists. They will lose, provided we have the sticktuitiveness to overcome.”
Our army can defeat any other army. It can prevent any insurgency from defeating it. It cannot defeat an insurgency with enough popular support to be able to replace its fighters, explosives, and so forth. It especially cannot do so when the force we have deployed is too small to secure Iraq’s borders. The most it can be sure of doing militarily is maintaining a presence there indefinitely, without yet having been defeated. It cannot be assured of actually defeating the insurgency. Still less can an army, by itself, achieve political or social goals. And our primary goals in Iraq have never been military goals like holding a town; they have been goals like: creating a stable country at peace with us and its neighbors. No army on earth can achieve that through force of arms alone.
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