by publius
From the Trail:
Giving credit to a higher power for the day’s poll ratings, the Alaska governor told the roughly 500-person audience that things might be changing. “We even saw today, thank the Lord,” she said, looking upwards and raising her fist, “We saw some movement.” . . . Palin also made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the “pro-America” areas of the country, of which North Carolina is one. No word on which states she views as unpatriotic.
I assume MA, CA, CT, NH, NJ, VT and HI. Just throwing that out there. Plus the ones that have legal abortion and access to The Pill.
I wonder how patriotic she’ll think North Carolina, Missouri, Virginia, or West Virginia are when they go for Obama.
If this woman and her depraved running mate get elected I will be too disgusted with my fellow Amwericans to stand living here any more. It is disgraceful that they are getting any votes at all.
The people for who I feel the most contempt are not the wingnuts who believe this stuff. I can feel some pity for the stupid and the ignorant. No, it’s the fellow travellers who aren’t wingnuts themselves, but who are going to vote for McCain and Palin anyway that have, in my opinion, no excuse.
for whom
I would imagine that the “pro-American” states would be the ones that have a history of honoring and defending our country and our Constitution, that would never, for instance, allow their local governments to take arms against the United States, that would never attempt to secede or rebel, or form a new country in opposition to the United States.
So I’m wondering what she’s doing in the South.
Keith:
“I would imagine that the “pro-American” states would be the ones that have a history of honoring and defending our country and our Constitution, that would never, for instance, allow their local governments to take arms against the United States, that would never attempt to secede or rebel, or form a new country in opposition to the United States.
So I’m wondering what she’s doing in the South.”
I’m wondering what she’s doing with Todd:
“Todd Palin, Longtime Former AIP Member”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/the-alaska-divi.html
This is from Micheal at Balloon Juice:
“You might be excused if you said placing Obama’s face on a $10 food stamp with a bucket of fried chicken, watermelon, ribs, and Kool-Aid was an isolated act.
When a major right-wing network calls Michelle Obama, “Obama’s Baby Mama,” you could dismiss it as as an overzealous producer who just thought it was funny and didn’t mean it to say that black women are just baby machines for black men. You could, I suppose.
You might even get a pass if you thought a Web site that depicted Obama and the word “Waterboard Him” was just created by an obscure group that didn’t represent all Republicans – although you would be wrong.
If a picture of Obama was Photoshopped to make him look a little bit like Osama Bin Laden, you could pass it off as the work of a few idiots on the right. It could be, right?
Supporters who carry racist Obama Monkey Dolls to your rallys are people who don’t represent your campaign. You could argue that.
Of course, this is just a moron on the fringe, right?
What about when a high-level Republican fundraiser sends out an email that includes a joke with the punchline, if an airplane carrying Obama and his wife were blown up “it certainly wouldn’t be a great loss, and it probably wouldn’t be an accident either.”? Sure, you could pass it off as the act of a random dumbass.
If, in response to your question, “Who is Barack Obama?” someone yelled “Terrorist!” you could say that was just one idiot in the crowd and was not indicative of the general sentiment. It’s plausible.”
He goes on to tsay that these examples add up to the definition fo the Republican party. I think that the huge list of unethical acts of the Bush administration, which were supported by the majority of Repiuiblicans in Congress and explicitly or implicitly supported by most rank and file Republicans as well are also part of the definition of the Republican party.
People do have an obligatin to connect the dots, to add things up. For more than eight years Republicans have been discounting every separate incident of nefarious behavior as atypical or no worse than some example of behavior from some Democrat ( usually the same Democrat used over and over).
I can understand loyalty and I realize that it is difficult to change one’s mind. In fact it takes both courage and intellectual honesty to change one’s mind about deeply held loyalties. Some Republicans are capable of this. the fact that McPalin are still over forty points indicates tht some are not.
But there is no excuse. It’s not just a failure of well intenetioned people to add things up. It requires huge amounts of effort at this point to deny the nature of the current Repubican party. And it does not reflect well on the values of people who make that effort.
There’s Pro-America and Am-America, “Am” standing for Amateur as in one who loves the country and doesn’t get paid off for saying and doing so…
Then, there’s Pro-Am America, but I think that’s a PGA or Nascar event.
I assume MA, CA, CT, NH, NJ, VT and HI. Just throwing that out there. Plus the ones that have legal abortion and access to The Pill.
Everyone always forgets Rhode Island.
To their later chagrin.
Wonkie, your point is one with which I’ve been wrestling for some time now. My father, a genuinely good but older man, has been a life long Republican. I was a life long Republican until 2004. My father says it will be bad for all of us if Obama is president. And therein lies the quandary – how do you separate out the Republicans who are genuinely good people, but who are not (or are no longer) thoughtful participants in the political process from the sociopathic or simply racist? Because I agree with you – anyone who, today and after these past 8 years and the current meltdown of everything, can maintain their belief in Republican ideology (do they actually have an ideology?) is either not paying attention or is, to say the least, ethically challenged.
Jake
“When they had once got it by heart, the sheep developed a great liking for this maxim, and often as they lay in the field they would all start bleating, ‘Four legs good, two legs bad! Four legs good, two legs bad!’ and keep it up for hours on end, never growing tired of it.”
And it does not reflect well on the values of people who make that effort.
Exactly. At some point, those who have been standing by have to take some responsibility for the evil done in their name. If Republicans don’t want to be blamed for the bad things Bush did, why did they renominate him in 2004? If they wanted change, why didn’t they find a real reformer in 2008, one who repudiated the crimes of Bush and Cheney? Why did they pick the one person who had made the greatest effort to sell himself out to the Bush thugs?
When American Marxists made excuses for Communist evils in Stalin’s Soviet Union or Mao’s Cultural Revolution, they were widely and rightly mocked as fools. Nobody excused the royalists in Europe who made common cause with the fascists in the ’30s.
America needs a new conservative party. The one we supposedly have is a collection of hacks, self-deluding fools, thieves, and con men. The old traditionalists have no more excuse.
I just don’t understand this “higher power” linkage with a days tracking polls. Is Palin seriously making the argument that the judge of all the world is struggling to influence the *opinion polls*? What, is he addicted to 538.com and *also* running the universe? Is he hitting refresh ten gazillion times and then saying “d’oh! I can just fix the election outcome any way I want?”
The fundamentalist view of g-d and his activities is fundamentally incoherent on so many levels that you’d think g-d would smite them dead just from sheer annoyance.
aimai
I just don’t understand this “higher power” linkage with a days tracking polls.
What is God doing on days when the tracking polls go down, taking a nap or something?
I wonder if she is going to conclude on Nov 5th that God is really PO’d at the USA.
I hate her guts.
@aimai. Clearly God is speaking to Matt Drudge, which is why he is using a poll which is two weeks old, rather than fivethirtyeight.com, which is using current polls.
Surely the Pro-America states are where there have been fewer attempts to con America?
The fundamentalist view of g-d and his activities is fundamentally incoherent on so many levels that you’d think g-d would smite them dead just from sheer annoyance.
Thanks, aimai, you made my day.
“We even saw today, thank the Lord,” she said, looking upwards and raising her fist, “We saw some movement.” . . .
Possibly she’s back to the Metamucil issue?
That’s a really crappy joke, vida.
Also noted without much comment, because this has left this long-time Chicagoan absolutely stunned.
[Really, the Chicago Trib endorsed a Democrat? Really? I can only imagine that the Trib must have worked out some deal so hell would freeze over, and when the Cubs collapsed, newspaper management had to step in. Stunned, I am stunned.]
Does she even know what America is about? Has she studied the constitution, the founding fathers, the Bill of Rights? ANY FUCKING THING???
Fuck her and send her back to Alaska ASAP.
Signed,
a Patriotic and pissed off American
let it pass, jes…
The rhetoric about the anti-American threat from within is heating up. Now Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minnesota) is embracing whole-hearted McCarthyism. I just donated to her opponent, who’s unfortunately named Elwyn Tinklenberg.
Jake but not the one.
I was ranting.
I know lots of Republicans some of whom have McPalin bumper stifckers on their cars. Most f them are nice enough in thier private lives, and a few are really remarkably good people in some respects. the lady who puts in forty unpaid hours a week at our local no kill shelter for dogs is a classic wingnut.
So i am insdeed at the poitn where i feel a great deal of animosity toward rRepublicans–but only toward that part of them that is political. The dog lady for examp-le is a saint toward dogs.
She is also a paranoid hater, a snob who considers herslef to be more patriotic than people like me and a religious fanatic.
So…if she very brings up politics in my presence I will be civil but forceful with her vbecause i think that her plitical behavior is as demeaning to her as it is disresepctful to everyone else. She has a potential to be a better person thatn that and is letting herself down.
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