A poetry thread

by liberal japonicus

Time to dig out your faves. Been reading Adrianne Rich and share this one with you.

What Kind of Times Are These
by Adrienne Rich

There’s a place between two stands of trees where the grass grows uphill
and the old revolutionary road breaks off into shadows
near a meeting-house abandoned by the persecuted
who disappeared into those shadows.

I’ve walked there picking mushrooms at the edge of dread, but don’t be fooled
this isn’t a Russian poem, this is not somewhere else but here,
our country moving closer to its own truth and dread,
its own ways of making people disappear.

I won’t tell you where the place is, the dark mesh of the woods
meeting the unmarked strip of light—
ghost-ridden crossroads, leafmold paradise:
I know already who wants to buy it, sell it, make it disappear.

And I won’t tell you where it is, so why do I tell you
anything? Because you still listen, because in times like these
to have you listen at all, it’s necessary
to talk about trees.

Adrienne Rich, “What Kind of Times are These” from Collected Poems: 1950-2012.

25 thoughts on “A poetry thread”

  1. PLACE
    On the last day of the world
    I would want to plant a tree
    what for
    not the fruit
    the tree that bears the fruit
    is not the one that was planted
    I want the tree that stands
    in the earth for the first time
    with the sun already
    going down
    and the water
    touching its roots
    in the earth full of the dead
    and the clouds passing
    one by one
    over its leaves
    — W.S. Merwin, from his book The Rain in the Trees (Knopf). Copyright © 1988 by W. S. Merwin. Used by permission of the publisher.
    To browse through our archive of previously posted Poems of the Week, click here.
    To support the preservation of W.S. Merwin’s legacy and our efforts to preserve his home and palm forest for future generations, please consider making a tax-deductible donation to The Merwin Conservancy.
    (Lifted from here. If even the conservancy named after Merwin seeks permission, I suppose this isn’t really cricket. Take it down if need be. But — I’m growing maple trees in pots from seedlings at the moment. ‘Nuf said.

  2. Spring is like a perhaps hand
    (which comes carefully
    out of Nowhere)arranging
    a window,into which people look(while
    people stare
    arranging and changing placing
    carefully there a strange
    thing and a known thing here)and
    changing everything carefully
    spring is like a perhaps
    Hand in a window
    (carefully to
    and fro moving New and
    Old things,while
    people stare carefully
    moving a perhaps
    fraction of flower here placing
    an inch of air there)and
    without breaking anything.
    — e e cummings

  3. A Litany in Time of Plague
    Thomas Nashe
    Adieu, farewell, earth’s bliss;
    This world uncertain is;
    Fond are life’s lustful joys;
    Death proves them all but toys;
    None from his darts can fly;
    I am sick, I must die.
    Lord, have mercy on us!
    Rich men, trust not in wealth,
    Gold cannot buy you health;
    Physic himself must fade.
    All things to end are made,
    The plague full swift goes by;
    I am sick, I must die.
    Lord, have mercy on us!
    Beauty is but a flower
    Which wrinkles will devour;
    Brightness falls from the air;
    Queens have died young and fair;
    Dust hath closed Helen’s eye.
    I am sick, I must die.
    Lord, have mercy on us!
    Strength stoops unto the grave,
    Worms feed on Hector brave;
    Swords may not fight with fate,
    Earth still holds open her gate.
    “Come, come!” the bells do cry.
    I am sick, I must die.
    Lord, have mercy on us!
    Wit with his wantonness
    Tasteth death’s bitterness;
    Hell’s executioner
    Hath no ears for to hear
    What vain art can reply.
    I am sick, I must die.
    Lord, have mercy on us!
    Haste, therefore, each degree,
    To welcome destiny;
    Heaven is our heritage,
    Earth but a player’s stage;
    Mount we unto the sky.
    I am sick, I must die.
    Lord, have mercy on us!

  4. ‘Spring is always like what it used to be.’
    Said an old Chinese man.
    Rain hissed down the windows.
    Longings from a great distance.
    Reached us.
    Anne Carson

  5. The world is taking little heed
    And plods from day to day:
    The vulgar flourish like a weed,
    The learned pass away.
    We miss him on the summer path
    The lonely summer day,
    Where mowers cut the pleasant swath
    And maidens make the hay.
    The vulgar take but little heed;
    The garden wants his care;
    There lies the book he used to read,
    There stands the empty chair.
    The boat laid up, the voyage oer,
    And passed the stormy wave,
    The world is going as before,
    The poet in his grave.
    “The Poet’s Death”
    John Clare.

  6. As One does Sickness over
    In convalescent Mind,
    His scrutiny of Chances
    By blessed Health obscured —
    As One rewalks a Precipice
    And whittles at the Twig
    That held Him from Perdition
    Sown sidewise in the Crag
    A Custom of the Soul
    Far after suffering
    Identity to question
    For evidence ‘thas been —
    “As One Does Sickness Over”
    Emily Dickenson.

  7. the angel came to him & said
    I’m sorry, mac, but
    we talked it over
    in heaven
    & you’re going
    to have to live
    a thousand years
    Robert Lax

  8. I Am Waiting
    BY LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI
    I am waiting for my case to come up
    and I am waiting
    for a rebirth of wonder
    and I am waiting for someone
    to really discover America
    and wail
    and I am waiting
    for the discovery
    of a new symbolic western frontier
    and I am waiting
    for the American Eagle
    to really spread its wings
    and straighten up and fly right
    and I am waiting
    for the Age of Anxiety
    to drop dead
    and I am waiting
    for the war to be fought
    which will make the world safe
    for anarchy
    and I am waiting
    for the final withering away
    of all governments
    and I am perpetually awaiting
    a rebirth of wonder
    I am waiting for the Second Coming
    and I am waiting
    for a religious revival
    to sweep thru the state of Arizona
    and I am waiting
    for the Grapes of Wrath to be stored
    and I am waiting
    for them to prove
    that God is really American
    and I am waiting
    to see God on television
    piped onto church altars
    if only they can find
    the right channel
    to tune in on
    and I am waiting
    for the Last Supper to be served again
    with a strange new appetizer
    and I am perpetually awaiting
    a rebirth of wonder
    I am waiting for my number to be called
    and I am waiting
    for the Salvation Army to take over
    and I am waiting
    for the meek to be blessed
    and inherit the earth
    without taxes
    and I am waiting
    for forests and animals
    to reclaim the earth as theirs
    and I am waiting
    for a way to be devised
    to destroy all nationalisms
    without killing anybody
    and I am waiting
    for linnets and planets to fall like rain
    and I am waiting for lovers and weepers
    to lie down together again
    in a new rebirth of wonder
    I am waiting for the Great Divide to be crossed
    and I am anxiously waiting
    for the secret of eternal life to be discovered
    by an obscure general practitioner
    and I am waiting
    for the storms of life
    to be over
    and I am waiting
    to set sail for happiness
    and I am waiting
    for a reconstructed Mayflower
    to reach America
    with its picture story and tv rights
    sold in advance to the natives
    and I am waiting
    for the lost music to sound again
    in the Lost Continent
    in a new rebirth of wonder
    I am waiting for the day
    that maketh all things clear
    and I am awaiting retribution
    for what America did
    to Tom Sawyer
    and I am waiting
    for Alice in Wonderland
    to retransmit to me
    her total dream of innocence
    and I am waiting
    for Childe Roland to come
    to the final darkest tower
    and I am waiting
    for Aphrodite
    to grow live arms
    at a final disarmament conference
    in a new rebirth of wonder
    I am waiting
    to get some intimations
    of immortality
    by recollecting my early childhood
    and I am waiting
    for the green mornings to come again
    youth’s dumb green fields come back again
    and I am waiting
    for some strains of unpremeditated art
    to shake my typewriter
    and I am waiting to write
    the great indelible poem
    and I am waiting
    for the last long careless rapture
    and I am perpetually waiting
    for the fleeing lovers on the Grecian Urn
    to catch each other up at last
    and embrace
    and I am awaiting
    perpetually and forever
    a renaissance of wonder

  9. OK, I just posted (twice!) one of my favourite poems by Ferlinghetti. If someone rescues it (once!) from the Spam trap, I’ll be grateful. In the meantime:
    A Refusal to Mourn the Death, by Fire, of a Child in London
    Dylan Thomas
    Never until the mankind making
    Bird beast and flower
    Fathering and all humbling darkness
    Tells with silence the last light breaking
    And the still hour
    Is come of the sea tumbling in harness
    And I must enter again the round
    Zion of the water bead
    And the synagogue of the ear of corn
    Shall I let pray the shadow of a sound
    Or sow my salt seed
    In the least valley of sackcloth to mourn
    The majesty and burning of the child’s death.
    I shall not murder
    The mankind of her going with a grave truth
    Nor blaspheme down the stations of the breath
    With any further
    Elegy of innocence and youth.
    Deep with the first dead lies London’s daughter,
    Robed in the long friends,
    The grains beyond age, the dark veins of her mother,
    Secret by the unmourning water
    Of the riding Thames.
    After the first death, there is no other.

  10. Mine got into the spam trap too, and it is one of my favorite poems ever. So sad.
    wj: got GftNC’s out of Spam. Not seeing anything from you there, however.

  11. sapient, was yours One Train May Hide Another, which is somewhere upthread?

  12. Yes! Didn’t see it. Sorry that I troubled people.
    There are so many good poems, but that one I come back to always.

  13. And, since Ferlinghetti says he is waiting for the last long careless rapture, I thought I might finish tonight by giving you this wonderful poem (which is where he got the line) of homesickness by Browning, who is often a poet I dislike, but not here:
    Home-Thoughts, from Abroad
    BY ROBERT BROWNING
    Oh, to be in England
    Now that April’s there,
    And whoever wakes in England
    Sees, some morning, unaware,
    That the lowest boughs and the brushwood sheaf
    Round the elm-tree bole are in tiny leaf,
    While the chaffinch sings on the orchard bough
    In England—now!
    And after April, when May follows,
    And the whitethroat builds, and all the swallows!
    Hark, where my blossomed pear-tree in the hedge
    Leans to the field and scatters on the clover
    Blossoms and dewdrops—at the bent spray’s edge—
    That’s the wise thrush; he sings each song twice over,
    Lest you should think he never could recapture
    The first fine careless rapture!
    And though the fields look rough with hoary dew,
    All will be gay when noontide wakes anew
    The buttercups, the little children’s dower
    —Far brighter than this gaudy melon-flower!

  14. Thank you so much GftNC. There are so many Kenneth Koch poems that do nicely for spring. I found some, but I went with my favorite of his because I don’t participate in the personal threads very often.
    You are so wonderful at choosing the poem for the moment. All my best to you.

  15. De nada, sapient, sharing poetry gives me tremendous pleasure. We need to take pleasure where we can: nil desperandum.


  16. I’m a beekeeper. I caught a swarm this week after a winter when they didn’t do well.
    Thanks again.

  17. GFTNC, thank you so much for the Ferlinghetti. A credo, for me, for now. Maybe for always.
    sapient, thank you for helping the bees.

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