by Ugh
It's 2017, do you know where your neo-Nazis are America?
Meanwhile, the NYTimes is showing us their terrific editorial balance on the issue by letting Erick Fncking Erickson write an op-ed on yesterday's events. Erick. Fncking. Erickson. Not gonna link.
Both sides, people, both sides.
U! S! A!
Jesus.
Open Thread.
You can find a rally or vigil near you here.
You can find a rally or vigil near you here.
many sides. many many sides.
in the Age Of Trump, “conservatives” now champion moral equivalency with the fervor they once championed “family values”. and with as deep a conviction, i suspect.
many sides. many many sides.
in the Age Of Trump, “conservatives” now champion moral equivalency with the fervor they once championed “family values”. and with as deep a conviction, i suspect.
The real problem is all those participation-trophy kids and their college safe places. The left is out of control.
The real problem is all those participation-trophy kids and their college safe places. The left is out of control.
in case anyone missed it…
the driver was an active participant in fascist cosplay.
in case anyone missed it…
the driver was an active participant in fascist cosplay.
Meanwhile, just heard the Mooch on the news criticising the President he professed to love so much for not condemning the fascists. Oh the eddies of resentment and treachery we are now to be witness to…
It couldn’t happen to more deserving people, but I’ve long given up hope of it having any practical effect, at least in the short term. Still, it’s fun watching sharks turning and rending each other as soon as there’s blood in the water.
Meanwhile, just heard the Mooch on the news criticising the President he professed to love so much for not condemning the fascists. Oh the eddies of resentment and treachery we are now to be witness to…
It couldn’t happen to more deserving people, but I’ve long given up hope of it having any practical effect, at least in the short term. Still, it’s fun watching sharks turning and rending each other as soon as there’s blood in the water.
Same story, a year later, still a racist and a coward. It is the worst two ways he represents American. It is why Sessions isnt fired, another racist probably couldnt get through the Senate.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/trumps-david-duke-amnesia/
Same story, a year later, still a racist and a coward. It is the worst two ways he represents American. It is why Sessions isnt fired, another racist probably couldnt get through the Senate.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/trumps-david-duke-amnesia/
the dudes wih the tiki lamps are part of our history, culture, and society. since before day 1. nothing new.
we have to keep drawing the same line in the sand and not giving an inch, every freaking time they crawl out of the woodwork.
i’ll work for common ground, or at least a friendly agreement to disagree, with almost anyone. not with racial supremacists, fascists, and nazis.
frightened little punk-ass losers. put down the nazi regalia and army cosplay BS and get some counseling.
or, you know, go play in traffic. your choice.
it ain’t your planet. people who aren’t like you live here, and they’re not going away. get used to it.
the dudes wih the tiki lamps are part of our history, culture, and society. since before day 1. nothing new.
we have to keep drawing the same line in the sand and not giving an inch, every freaking time they crawl out of the woodwork.
i’ll work for common ground, or at least a friendly agreement to disagree, with almost anyone. not with racial supremacists, fascists, and nazis.
frightened little punk-ass losers. put down the nazi regalia and army cosplay BS and get some counseling.
or, you know, go play in traffic. your choice.
it ain’t your planet. people who aren’t like you live here, and they’re not going away. get used to it.
How deep into the right can condemnation go? Now, Ted Cruz calls for a Justice Department investigation, saying in part:
The question might be, if people like Cruz, Ryan, and Rubio can be unequivocalin their condemnation, where is . . . Pence? So far, I haven’t seen anything from him except quoting Trump — admittedly without the “on both sides”, but that ain’t much.
How deep into the right can condemnation go? Now, Ted Cruz calls for a Justice Department investigation, saying in part:
The question might be, if people like Cruz, Ryan, and Rubio can be unequivocalin their condemnation, where is . . . Pence? So far, I haven’t seen anything from him except quoting Trump — admittedly without the “on both sides”, but that ain’t much.
And yes, even Sessions, when announcing a Justice Department investigation, said:
Even Sessions. I’m not sure he believes it, but even he knows he has to say it.
And yes, even Sessions, when announcing a Justice Department investigation, said:
Even Sessions. I’m not sure he believes it, but even he knows he has to say it.
That Erickson and his red state operatives who recruited hate into the Republican Party (had a census worker or Republican Judge Souter been physically assaulted or killed by right-wing vermin Erickson could have been fingered for ordering the hit, but it’s not like the republican wasn’t already well on it’s way already to becoming a savage presence in American life) were not dealt with years ago is one of many root causes for the horror of this presidency and its attendant radical acts among the crazy vein of the American hate zeitgeist, always there awaiting demagogues to mine it and set it upon all who they hate.
He fancies himself a man of Jesus. I refer you to my remarks on the bankrupt venomous American Christianity.
Many of my family, particularly from the generation of my grandparents, held a steadfast faith in God and Christ. They were capitalists.
This present-day malign perversion of the two American spiritual and economic Faith’s is not in any way American or decent or even approximately human. It is alien life come to kill.
If there is to be nuclear war, and you will know it is near when Mattis and McMaster resign or are fired, the killers in South Korea mustn’t be its sole victims.
The alien life form infesting America must be destroyed as well.
Now, my sister would say that’s just crazy talk, but if the craziest talk is coming from the Oval Office and made the currency by the off-the-rails shitfuck right wing, then all of us had better learn the lingo and act accordingly and exponentially more crazy in order to live to see sanity return.
My Bitcoin two cents.
Today, my son and I will take the subway to lower Manhatten to find a
Mmusemm (yeah, that’s the spelling spellcheck so back off) of everyday New York City objects situated in an abandoned freight elevator in TriBeCa.
Then back uptown to Yankee stadium. If nuclear Holocaust comes tonight, I’ll have had a good day, but will regret not taking out every conservative personally the world over before they took me out.
Hate is the new Love.
I was thinking that yesterday as I stood on the sidewalk at the Dakota gate where an NRA-armed jagoff blew away a Beatle.
All we need is hate in order to love again. Give hate a chance and live to see love again.
That Erickson and his red state operatives who recruited hate into the Republican Party (had a census worker or Republican Judge Souter been physically assaulted or killed by right-wing vermin Erickson could have been fingered for ordering the hit, but it’s not like the republican wasn’t already well on it’s way already to becoming a savage presence in American life) were not dealt with years ago is one of many root causes for the horror of this presidency and its attendant radical acts among the crazy vein of the American hate zeitgeist, always there awaiting demagogues to mine it and set it upon all who they hate.
He fancies himself a man of Jesus. I refer you to my remarks on the bankrupt venomous American Christianity.
Many of my family, particularly from the generation of my grandparents, held a steadfast faith in God and Christ. They were capitalists.
This present-day malign perversion of the two American spiritual and economic Faith’s is not in any way American or decent or even approximately human. It is alien life come to kill.
If there is to be nuclear war, and you will know it is near when Mattis and McMaster resign or are fired, the killers in South Korea mustn’t be its sole victims.
The alien life form infesting America must be destroyed as well.
Now, my sister would say that’s just crazy talk, but if the craziest talk is coming from the Oval Office and made the currency by the off-the-rails shitfuck right wing, then all of us had better learn the lingo and act accordingly and exponentially more crazy in order to live to see sanity return.
My Bitcoin two cents.
Today, my son and I will take the subway to lower Manhatten to find a
Mmusemm (yeah, that’s the spelling spellcheck so back off) of everyday New York City objects situated in an abandoned freight elevator in TriBeCa.
Then back uptown to Yankee stadium. If nuclear Holocaust comes tonight, I’ll have had a good day, but will regret not taking out every conservative personally the world over before they took me out.
Hate is the new Love.
I was thinking that yesterday as I stood on the sidewalk at the Dakota gate where an NRA-armed jagoff blew away a Beatle.
All we need is hate in order to love again. Give hate a chance and live to see love again.
Hard to know which thread to put this in, but since Brexit let our own fascists out to play, and since (to my fury) I can no longer link articles for you from the Guardian website, thus denying you many of the best pieces which you, in the US, might not otherwise see, I am going to copy type, for the first time in decades. This is from an excellent piece by David Milliband in today’s Observer, about Brexit. He’s joining in an increasing chorus of reasonable types putting forward other ways to approach Brexit.
That is the part which I think has resonance for both our countries, and for everyone interested in a civilised, democratic future.
Hard to know which thread to put this in, but since Brexit let our own fascists out to play, and since (to my fury) I can no longer link articles for you from the Guardian website, thus denying you many of the best pieces which you, in the US, might not otherwise see, I am going to copy type, for the first time in decades. This is from an excellent piece by David Milliband in today’s Observer, about Brexit. He’s joining in an increasing chorus of reasonable types putting forward other ways to approach Brexit.
That is the part which I think has resonance for both our countries, and for everyone interested in a civilised, democratic future.
I don’t know if it will work for you with the Guardian. But with some sites I have found that I can use an “incognito tab” to get past the barrier. As long as they will allow even one read (e.g. per month), it seems to do the job.
I don’t know if it will work for you with the Guardian. But with some sites I have found that I can use an “incognito tab” to get past the barrier. As long as they will allow even one read (e.g. per month), it seems to do the job.
This is David Miliband’s article. And this is the article about the article.
This is David Miliband’s article. And this is the article about the article.
Goddamnit, Pro Bono, I did all that copytyping for nothing!
Actually, I’ve just tried, and I can now access it without problem, whereas yesterday whatever I did I came up against the paywall. After a search, I find an article in the Telegraph on July 25th saying the Guardian are considering a paywall, but would rather not do it. So maybe yesterday was a test run? In any case, I hope they don’t do it, because links to them in the past have provided you all with much interesting stuff, and that copytyping (and proofreading) was most annoying!
Goddamnit, Pro Bono, I did all that copytyping for nothing!
Actually, I’ve just tried, and I can now access it without problem, whereas yesterday whatever I did I came up against the paywall. After a search, I find an article in the Telegraph on July 25th saying the Guardian are considering a paywall, but would rather not do it. So maybe yesterday was a test run? In any case, I hope they don’t do it, because links to them in the past have provided you all with much interesting stuff, and that copytyping (and proofreading) was most annoying!
Since this is an open thread…complete change of subject…
I read the Goblin Kingdom and liked it. NOt enough to reread it every year but I will read it again. I think the reason I will not reread it over an over is…I dont really want to gravel im my mind to that time or place. But the chareacters are wonderful and he writing is deft and vivid. Thank you for the recommendation.
My dog Izzy died, but I dont want to write about that. I have a new dog. I am having trouble loving him poor doggie because he is not Izzy. However I will do my best to make him happy because he is an unadoptable mess. He’s old, nearly blind, incontinent and partially bald. I expect to be able to cure the baldness and he will wear diapers in the house for the incessant peeing.
He’s the sole survivor of a horrible situation. He person was a paranoid schizophrenic. She ahd several dogs adn lived in unimaginable aqualor. Then she died. Since no one liked her, no one went to check on her property after her death. That left the three dogs on their own.
Willie stuck it out for six weeks. Then driven probably by thrist he set out down the driveway and out to the road where a neighbor found him The oher dos disappeared.
He’s a shih tuz. I do not like shih tus and never wanted one. In fact, afer my experiences with a pug and a Maltese I ahd made up my mind that I wanted no more flat faced dogs (the pug) or dogs with high maintenance fur (the Maltese). So now I have a shih tuz who i sboth flat fced and will have high maintenance fur when he gets over being bald.
And he stinks. Its a yeast infection, so will clear up with medicated baths.
But he is very loving. Poor little guy,
Since this is an open thread…complete change of subject…
I read the Goblin Kingdom and liked it. NOt enough to reread it every year but I will read it again. I think the reason I will not reread it over an over is…I dont really want to gravel im my mind to that time or place. But the chareacters are wonderful and he writing is deft and vivid. Thank you for the recommendation.
My dog Izzy died, but I dont want to write about that. I have a new dog. I am having trouble loving him poor doggie because he is not Izzy. However I will do my best to make him happy because he is an unadoptable mess. He’s old, nearly blind, incontinent and partially bald. I expect to be able to cure the baldness and he will wear diapers in the house for the incessant peeing.
He’s the sole survivor of a horrible situation. He person was a paranoid schizophrenic. She ahd several dogs adn lived in unimaginable aqualor. Then she died. Since no one liked her, no one went to check on her property after her death. That left the three dogs on their own.
Willie stuck it out for six weeks. Then driven probably by thrist he set out down the driveway and out to the road where a neighbor found him The oher dos disappeared.
He’s a shih tuz. I do not like shih tus and never wanted one. In fact, afer my experiences with a pug and a Maltese I ahd made up my mind that I wanted no more flat faced dogs (the pug) or dogs with high maintenance fur (the Maltese). So now I have a shih tuz who i sboth flat fced and will have high maintenance fur when he gets over being bald.
And he stinks. Its a yeast infection, so will clear up with medicated baths.
But he is very loving. Poor little guy,
Bless your good heart for taking care of that stinky bald incontinent dog, wonkie.
My cousin, who loves bichon frises, is “fostering” a second one, having “fostered” a first one (i.e. deciding to adopt it after about a week). We tell her if you’re going to foster a dog you need to take a breed you don’t actually like. Will she listen? Ha. I just hope she doesn’t keep it up till she has 20 of them.
Bless your good heart for taking care of that stinky bald incontinent dog, wonkie.
My cousin, who loves bichon frises, is “fostering” a second one, having “fostered” a first one (i.e. deciding to adopt it after about a week). We tell her if you’re going to foster a dog you need to take a breed you don’t actually like. Will she listen? Ha. I just hope she doesn’t keep it up till she has 20 of them.
Oh Wonkie you are such a great person for this. We take in a lot of strays, but I do not think I could do go that far.
OTOH, our last rescue hound (RIP, best friend I ever had), was a yeasty beast as well. It kind of grew on me. I nursed her though incontinence as well, doubt I could handle that again.
We have an extremely needy rescued Kelpie now. She is smarter than we are. It is a challenge, we are used to dumbass hounds and pitbulls.
Oh Wonkie you are such a great person for this. We take in a lot of strays, but I do not think I could do go that far.
OTOH, our last rescue hound (RIP, best friend I ever had), was a yeasty beast as well. It kind of grew on me. I nursed her though incontinence as well, doubt I could handle that again.
We have an extremely needy rescued Kelpie now. She is smarter than we are. It is a challenge, we are used to dumbass hounds and pitbulls.
I dont think I am especially special. I live in an area where lots ans lots of people have foster or rescue dogs. I do not think I could handle a kelpie. I do not want a dog taht is smarter than me and has emtional problems. So I admisre you for having the patience to deal with that! I am much better at coping with health problems than emotional ones.
I dont think I am especially special. I live in an area where lots ans lots of people have foster or rescue dogs. I do not think I could handle a kelpie. I do not want a dog taht is smarter than me and has emtional problems. So I admisre you for having the patience to deal with that! I am much better at coping with health problems than emotional ones.
Jen Rubin burns it down.
Jen Rubin burns it down.
Jen Rubin: The party of Lincoln is now the party of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis and Southern slave owners
Rubin has been nailing it on the subject of Trump for a while now. Early and often, in fact.
It is interesting how regularly, and with what enormous determination, Trump’s supporters roll out the line that the folks who brought us Jim Crow, fought the Civil Rights Act, etc. were all Democrats. It’s like they almost know that their side is reprehensible, but since it’s their side projection is an imperative.
Jen Rubin: The party of Lincoln is now the party of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis and Southern slave owners
Rubin has been nailing it on the subject of Trump for a while now. Early and often, in fact.
It is interesting how regularly, and with what enormous determination, Trump’s supporters roll out the line that the folks who brought us Jim Crow, fought the Civil Rights Act, etc. were all Democrats. It’s like they almost know that their side is reprehensible, but since it’s their side projection is an imperative.
Is this the same Jen Rubin who is more Netanyahu than Netanyahu?
Is this the same Jen Rubin who is more Netanyahu than Netanyahu?
Not sure of her position on Israeli political issues. But she is a long-standing conservative. (And, if memory serves, Jewish.) But she is real clear-eyed on Trump and the damage he is doing.
Not sure of her position on Israeli political issues. But she is a long-standing conservative. (And, if memory serves, Jewish.) But she is real clear-eyed on Trump and the damage he is doing.
yep.
she hates Trump with a white-hot fury. and she’s hilarious about it, too.
yep.
she hates Trump with a white-hot fury. and she’s hilarious about it, too.
Daily Caller, January:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/15/january_daily_caller_video_demonstrates_how_to_plow_through_protesters_with.html
Daily Caller, January:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/15/january_daily_caller_video_demonstrates_how_to_plow_through_protesters_with.html
My recollection of her posts/columns during Obama’s Presidency was that they were one step short of accusing him of advocating for wiping Israel off the map or something similar.
My recollection of her posts/columns during Obama’s Presidency was that they were one step short of accusing him of advocating for wiping Israel off the map or something similar.
The party of Lincoln is now the party of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis and Southern slave owners who decided to kill fellow Americans so that they could keep men, women and children enslaved.
LBJ knew that would happen the minute he signed the Civil Rights Act. That this is not blindingly obvious to more people since at least Nixon is simply startling.
But you know we have ended racism and all that….so nothing to see here.
The party of Lincoln is now the party of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis and Southern slave owners who decided to kill fellow Americans so that they could keep men, women and children enslaved.
LBJ knew that would happen the minute he signed the Civil Rights Act. That this is not blindingly obvious to more people since at least Nixon is simply startling.
But you know we have ended racism and all that….so nothing to see here.
Hey, there are still folks out there who insist that Nixon’s Southern Strategy is entirely a myth, never happened, and has no basis in fact. Having lived thru that time, I somehow never find myself convinced.
Hey, there are still folks out there who insist that Nixon’s Southern Strategy is entirely a myth, never happened, and has no basis in fact. Having lived thru that time, I somehow never find myself convinced.
This
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/08/16/charlottesville-shakes-the-trump-presidency/?utm_term=.272b5e53e0e4
From someone who is an absolute partisan for the GOP and one of Trump’s most reliable supporters. But not today, not even a little bit.
At this point, the only folks finding it possible to defend Trump on this are exactly the white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Everybody else has abandon ship.
This
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/08/16/charlottesville-shakes-the-trump-presidency/?utm_term=.272b5e53e0e4
From someone who is an absolute partisan for the GOP and one of Trump’s most reliable supporters. But not today, not even a little bit.
At this point, the only folks finding it possible to defend Trump on this are exactly the white supremacists and neo-Nazis. Everybody else has abandon ship.
nice one.
nice one.
Hey, there are still folks out there who insist that Nixon’s Southern Strategy is entirely a myth, never happened, and has no basis in fact. Having lived thru that time, I somehow never find myself convinced.
Posted by: wj | August 16, 2017 at 01:52 PM
I lived through the time and the region (born and raised in SC). It was real. To our collective shame, SC put a flag above the statehouse dome that had nothing to do with our state’s heritage*. If you’re going with “heritage, not hate” as your defense, then at least get the heritage part right. Of course the flag had nothing to do with the centennial as some claimed but was a naked FU reaction to the CRA.
I bring this up because it’s revealing to look at the time and place that these monuments went up. They were often reactions to perceived jabs by the Feds or a victory lap for when whites took back control from reconstruction governments.
This is from someone who feels that when judged by the moral standards of his day, Lee was an honorable man. He also felt that there should not be any monuments to the Confederacy.
But I digress.
* The modern Confederate battle flag is really a little used Confederate Naval Jack that South Carolinians never fought under. It’s reminiscent of the battle flag of the army Northern Va (Lee’s army), but that flag was square. Again, other than Longstreet, South Carolinians didn’t fight under that flag either. It was, however, adopted by a Confederate Veterans group. For its part, SC continued to use the “stars and bars” throughout the war as best I can tell and didn’t adopt those national Confederate flags that incorporated the battle flag of the army Northern Va. as part of a larger design.
Hey, there are still folks out there who insist that Nixon’s Southern Strategy is entirely a myth, never happened, and has no basis in fact. Having lived thru that time, I somehow never find myself convinced.
Posted by: wj | August 16, 2017 at 01:52 PM
I lived through the time and the region (born and raised in SC). It was real. To our collective shame, SC put a flag above the statehouse dome that had nothing to do with our state’s heritage*. If you’re going with “heritage, not hate” as your defense, then at least get the heritage part right. Of course the flag had nothing to do with the centennial as some claimed but was a naked FU reaction to the CRA.
I bring this up because it’s revealing to look at the time and place that these monuments went up. They were often reactions to perceived jabs by the Feds or a victory lap for when whites took back control from reconstruction governments.
This is from someone who feels that when judged by the moral standards of his day, Lee was an honorable man. He also felt that there should not be any monuments to the Confederacy.
But I digress.
* The modern Confederate battle flag is really a little used Confederate Naval Jack that South Carolinians never fought under. It’s reminiscent of the battle flag of the army Northern Va (Lee’s army), but that flag was square. Again, other than Longstreet, South Carolinians didn’t fight under that flag either. It was, however, adopted by a Confederate Veterans group. For its part, SC continued to use the “stars and bars” throughout the war as best I can tell and didn’t adopt those national Confederate flags that incorporated the battle flag of the army Northern Va. as part of a larger design.