by Ugh
OMG, you mean people are taking you srsly?
Many of the schools across America that house polling booths will not be open on Election Day for the first time after parents raised fears over violence.
And what's a little harmless hanging in effigy and heads on pikes between friends, no?
An effigy depicting Hillary Clinton with a noose around her neck dangled above the crowd cheering on a Donald Trump rally in North Carolina on Wednesday….Earlier this week, Trump supporters took a model of Clinton's head and mounted it on a stake.
Meanwhile, former GOP (surprise!) Congresspersonthing and low rent a$$ hat coward* Joe Walsh (and deadbeat dad to boot – party of family values!) tweeted "On November 8th, I’m voting for Trump. On November 9th, if Trump loses, I’m grabbing my musket. You in?" But it's just civil disobedience, he says, wink wink nudge nudge say no more!
This has caused me to wonder, his cowardly walking back notwithstanding, exactly who are you going to threaten and – if things go the way you clearly want them to – shoot with that musket? Are you going to march on the White House? City hall? Go out Zimmermanning? I mean, there are going to have been 65,000,000+ people that voted for Hillary by the time November 8 ends, are you going after them to get "your" country back and defend your fever dream version of the U.S. Constitution? No, fnck you.
More broadly, this is the inevitable result of the national GOP constant de-legitimizing Democratic Presidents dating back to (I'm guessing) at least Carter, having reached its zenith with Obama and the birthers, and the widespread voter fraud propaganda based on lies with the goal of providing a fig leaf for the purposeful disenfranchisement of African American voters (it's 2016, do you know where your Jim Crow is? How many GOP congressional votes do you think the 24th Amendment would get were it proposed in Congress today?). Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and empty suited boy wonder* Marco Rubio – all Trump voters and endorsers, lest it be forgotten, you need to be out on the stump repudiating all this sh1t, but you're not because you're' worried about being re-elected. tl;dr for this paragraph – Trump is the natural result of a GOP base that has been catered to by the "elites" and not some kind of Mule-like aberration.
And don't get me started on this nascent movement to block any and all Clinton SCOTUS nominees, per rat-faced crap weasel* Ted Cruz. What happened to the oh so very principled position of letting the people have their say on the SCOTUS nominee via the Presidential election? Oh, you made that sh1t up on the fly on a weekend, of course you did.
*Yes it's very substantive name calling, bite me.
I’m sorry, if you’re voting for him you’re endorsing him, Mr. Profile in Courage (stolen from hilzoy).
I’m sorry, if you’re voting for him you’re endorsing him, Mr. Profile in Courage (stolen from hilzoy).
I’m sorry, if you’re voting for him you’re endorsing him, Mr. Profile in Courage (stolen from hilzoy).
hell yeah, Ugh.
hell yeah, Ugh.
hell yeah, Ugh.
I’m more worried aobut voter suppression than I am violence. To me the real harm of Trump’s false claims of voter fraud is that no one will believe reports of real voter suppression.
The main reason why I think it is essential to elect Democrats is to get judges that will protect voting rights. Otherwise the Republicans succeed in their goal to make us a banana republic with meaningless elections.
I just hope she doesn’t get us in to deep in Syria.
I’m more worried aobut voter suppression than I am violence. To me the real harm of Trump’s false claims of voter fraud is that no one will believe reports of real voter suppression.
The main reason why I think it is essential to elect Democrats is to get judges that will protect voting rights. Otherwise the Republicans succeed in their goal to make us a banana republic with meaningless elections.
I just hope she doesn’t get us in to deep in Syria.
I’m more worried aobut voter suppression than I am violence. To me the real harm of Trump’s false claims of voter fraud is that no one will believe reports of real voter suppression.
The main reason why I think it is essential to elect Democrats is to get judges that will protect voting rights. Otherwise the Republicans succeed in their goal to make us a banana republic with meaningless elections.
I just hope she doesn’t get us in to deep in Syria.
Voter suppression? I got yer voter suppression right here.
Of course, it says something about the cutting edge derp that is the Trump campaign that they both think voter suppression is okay and then go on to describe (in the article) what they’re doing as voter suppression that is not really voter suppression, ISTM. But hey, their words, not mine.
Voter suppression? I got yer voter suppression right here.
Of course, it says something about the cutting edge derp that is the Trump campaign that they both think voter suppression is okay and then go on to describe (in the article) what they’re doing as voter suppression that is not really voter suppression, ISTM. But hey, their words, not mine.
Voter suppression? I got yer voter suppression right here.
Of course, it says something about the cutting edge derp that is the Trump campaign that they both think voter suppression is okay and then go on to describe (in the article) what they’re doing as voter suppression that is not really voter suppression, ISTM. But hey, their words, not mine.
As he says, let’s take this puppy national!
As he says, let’s take this puppy national!
As he says, let’s take this puppy national!
I don’t want to live in interesting times. Why do humans make life so complicated and strife-ridden? I think that there is something genetic in our species that cannot tolerate contentment. There are so many people who just feel compelled to be power players in ways that are destructive to others and force others to fight back or be shat upon.
I don’t want to live in interesting times. Why do humans make life so complicated and strife-ridden? I think that there is something genetic in our species that cannot tolerate contentment. There are so many people who just feel compelled to be power players in ways that are destructive to others and force others to fight back or be shat upon.
I don’t want to live in interesting times. Why do humans make life so complicated and strife-ridden? I think that there is something genetic in our species that cannot tolerate contentment. There are so many people who just feel compelled to be power players in ways that are destructive to others and force others to fight back or be shat upon.
If you want to talk misogyny, and other related disgustingness, I posted this on the other thread but just in case anybody misses it:
http://uspoln.com/2016/10/24/pat-robertson-husbands-need-boycott-intercourse-wives-theyre-planning-vote-hillary/
I do believe if this was widely circulated, HRC would mop up any women who are still undecided.
If you want to talk misogyny, and other related disgustingness, I posted this on the other thread but just in case anybody misses it:
http://uspoln.com/2016/10/24/pat-robertson-husbands-need-boycott-intercourse-wives-theyre-planning-vote-hillary/
I do believe if this was widely circulated, HRC would mop up any women who are still undecided.
If you want to talk misogyny, and other related disgustingness, I posted this on the other thread but just in case anybody misses it:
http://uspoln.com/2016/10/24/pat-robertson-husbands-need-boycott-intercourse-wives-theyre-planning-vote-hillary/
I do believe if this was widely circulated, HRC would mop up any women who are still undecided.
Hey Pat – which way does that cut?
Hey Pat – which way does that cut?
Hey Pat – which way does that cut?
In Massachusetts, Election Day is usually a school holiday–they use it as a teacher training day, and the absence of classes means they can use classrooms as voting stations.
It does mean yet another headache for parents who have to arrange for some kind of alternate child care, but it’s not exactly uncommon for the schools to close for holidays that most parents don’t get (Veterans Day is another one, and that’s in the same week this year). I suppose it encourages parents to take Election Day off if they can manage it. The kids don’t get to see democracy in action unless their parents take them to vote.
In Massachusetts, Election Day is usually a school holiday–they use it as a teacher training day, and the absence of classes means they can use classrooms as voting stations.
It does mean yet another headache for parents who have to arrange for some kind of alternate child care, but it’s not exactly uncommon for the schools to close for holidays that most parents don’t get (Veterans Day is another one, and that’s in the same week this year). I suppose it encourages parents to take Election Day off if they can manage it. The kids don’t get to see democracy in action unless their parents take them to vote.
In Massachusetts, Election Day is usually a school holiday–they use it as a teacher training day, and the absence of classes means they can use classrooms as voting stations.
It does mean yet another headache for parents who have to arrange for some kind of alternate child care, but it’s not exactly uncommon for the schools to close for holidays that most parents don’t get (Veterans Day is another one, and that’s in the same week this year). I suppose it encourages parents to take Election Day off if they can manage it. The kids don’t get to see democracy in action unless their parents take them to vote.
Ugh, OK the sex ban stuff is funny, but I was mainly talking about the how you should beat wives and children part.
Ugh, OK the sex ban stuff is funny, but I was mainly talking about the how you should beat wives and children part.
Ugh, OK the sex ban stuff is funny, but I was mainly talking about the how you should beat wives and children part.
GFTNC – actually most of that story is made up. But not the part about beating children.
GFTNC – actually most of that story is made up. But not the part about beating children.
GFTNC – actually most of that story is made up. But not the part about beating children.
Thanks very much for this Ugh, I hate to have been so gullible and will keep in mind to check with snopes for future sensational claims. But I notice they only really debunk the reverse-lysistrata aspect, and don’t seem to mention the part about beating wives. Perhaps that really is a part of fundamentalist Christian belief.
Thanks very much for this Ugh, I hate to have been so gullible and will keep in mind to check with snopes for future sensational claims. But I notice they only really debunk the reverse-lysistrata aspect, and don’t seem to mention the part about beating wives. Perhaps that really is a part of fundamentalist Christian belief.
Thanks very much for this Ugh, I hate to have been so gullible and will keep in mind to check with snopes for future sensational claims. But I notice they only really debunk the reverse-lysistrata aspect, and don’t seem to mention the part about beating wives. Perhaps that really is a part of fundamentalist Christian belief.
Newslo is maybe the most annoying of those “satire” sites that are really just spreading one unfunny hoax after another. Their hoaxes are particularly virulent because they’re always built around a core of a true story, and the reveal provided by their “show facts” button goes away if somebody else just cuts and pastes the text.
Newslo is maybe the most annoying of those “satire” sites that are really just spreading one unfunny hoax after another. Their hoaxes are particularly virulent because they’re always built around a core of a true story, and the reveal provided by their “show facts” button goes away if somebody else just cuts and pastes the text.
Newslo is maybe the most annoying of those “satire” sites that are really just spreading one unfunny hoax after another. Their hoaxes are particularly virulent because they’re always built around a core of a true story, and the reveal provided by their “show facts” button goes away if somebody else just cuts and pastes the text.
let’s take this [Kansas] puppy national!
I’m trying to picture a Republican governor, any Republican governor, looking at Brownback’s popularity numbers and saying “Hey, I gotta get me some of this!” These guys may be nutty (at least from some perspectives), but they (mostly) aren’t that crazy.
let’s take this [Kansas] puppy national!
I’m trying to picture a Republican governor, any Republican governor, looking at Brownback’s popularity numbers and saying “Hey, I gotta get me some of this!” These guys may be nutty (at least from some perspectives), but they (mostly) aren’t that crazy.
let’s take this [Kansas] puppy national!
I’m trying to picture a Republican governor, any Republican governor, looking at Brownback’s popularity numbers and saying “Hey, I gotta get me some of this!” These guys may be nutty (at least from some perspectives), but they (mostly) aren’t that crazy.
Interesting interview with Tony Schwartz (who wrote The Art of the Deal for Trump) on the BBC’s Newsnight, claiming he has already made arrangements to leave the US (I have family in Amsterdam, and have already made the arrangements) should Trump wins, as he fears for his personal safety.
Q. “Can you think of any redeeming personal qualities he might have ?”
…pause…
“No.”
Interesting interview with Tony Schwartz (who wrote The Art of the Deal for Trump) on the BBC’s Newsnight, claiming he has already made arrangements to leave the US (I have family in Amsterdam, and have already made the arrangements) should Trump wins, as he fears for his personal safety.
Q. “Can you think of any redeeming personal qualities he might have ?”
…pause…
“No.”
Interesting interview with Tony Schwartz (who wrote The Art of the Deal for Trump) on the BBC’s Newsnight, claiming he has already made arrangements to leave the US (I have family in Amsterdam, and have already made the arrangements) should Trump wins, as he fears for his personal safety.
Q. “Can you think of any redeeming personal qualities he might have ?”
…pause…
“No.”
Norms and the GOP.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/10/27/republicans-are-already-treating-clintons-presidency-as-illegitimate/?postshare=9911477606190200&tid=ss_tw
Norms and the GOP.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/10/27/republicans-are-already-treating-clintons-presidency-as-illegitimate/?postshare=9911477606190200&tid=ss_tw
Norms and the GOP.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/10/27/republicans-are-already-treating-clintons-presidency-as-illegitimate/?postshare=9911477606190200&tid=ss_tw
“Why do humans make life so complicated and strife-ridden?”
i blame coffee
“Why do humans make life so complicated and strife-ridden?”
i blame coffee
“Why do humans make life so complicated and strife-ridden?”
i blame coffee
Not Obama?
Not Obama?
Not Obama?
Obama made the coffee
Obama made the coffee
Obama made the coffee
Meanwhile, Bundy et al innocent of seizing federal property.
File under “jury nullification”.
I guess I’m unclear on what a white man in a cowboy hat has to do to get jail time nowadays.
Maybe it’s just me.
Meanwhile, Bundy et al innocent of seizing federal property.
File under “jury nullification”.
I guess I’m unclear on what a white man in a cowboy hat has to do to get jail time nowadays.
Maybe it’s just me.
Meanwhile, Bundy et al innocent of seizing federal property.
File under “jury nullification”.
I guess I’m unclear on what a white man in a cowboy hat has to do to get jail time nowadays.
Maybe it’s just me.
Maybe it’s just me.
Not just you. Shocking, appalling. What’s wrong with Portland? And this:
WTF?
Maybe it’s just me.
Not just you. Shocking, appalling. What’s wrong with Portland? And this:
WTF?
Maybe it’s just me.
Not just you. Shocking, appalling. What’s wrong with Portland? And this:
WTF?
Obama made the coffee
he said it was Kona, but it was really Kenyan.
Obama made the coffee
he said it was Kona, but it was really Kenyan.
Obama made the coffee
he said it was Kona, but it was really Kenyan.
Clerk wins
Clerk wins
Clerk wins
Fucking. Autocorrect.
Fucking. Autocorrect.
Fucking. Autocorrect.
Clerk is my Christian name. it’s cool.
Clerk is my Christian name. it’s cool.
Clerk is my Christian name. it’s cool.
Selective constitutional amendment love from the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/what-s-behind-gop-s-war-sixth-amendment-n674071
Selective constitutional amendment love from the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/what-s-behind-gop-s-war-sixth-amendment-n674071
Selective constitutional amendment love from the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/what-s-behind-gop-s-war-sixth-amendment-n674071
there are several of those ads. some are about gun control (don’t let Ross take away your right to defend yourself from the sexual predators she wants to set free!), some are about her job at the ACLU (Ross thinks sexual predators should have more rights than their victims!), etc.. and they all run every 5 minutes. it’s a deluge.
there are several of those ads. some are about gun control (don’t let Ross take away your right to defend yourself from the sexual predators she wants to set free!), some are about her job at the ACLU (Ross thinks sexual predators should have more rights than their victims!), etc.. and they all run every 5 minutes. it’s a deluge.
there are several of those ads. some are about gun control (don’t let Ross take away your right to defend yourself from the sexual predators she wants to set free!), some are about her job at the ACLU (Ross thinks sexual predators should have more rights than their victims!), etc.. and they all run every 5 minutes. it’s a deluge.
Scum
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mark-kirk-makes-racist-comment-tammy-duckworth-heritage
Scum
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mark-kirk-makes-racist-comment-tammy-duckworth-heritage
Scum
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mark-kirk-makes-racist-comment-tammy-duckworth-heritage
Well, at least there’s this consolation:
Well, at least there’s this consolation:
Well, at least there’s this consolation:
Meanwhile, we are getting deluged with Trump campaign ads — yes, the campaign, not a PAC. (Since even they cannot believe they have any chance of taking California, this must be some kind of after-the-election positioning.) The ones which go on and on about all of the things that Clinton (according to them) has lied about.
I’m not sure if the poor production values are merely massive incompetence. Or if they are trying to send a subliminal message by having all of the imgaes of Clinton look so fuzzy and out of focus….
Meanwhile, we are getting deluged with Trump campaign ads — yes, the campaign, not a PAC. (Since even they cannot believe they have any chance of taking California, this must be some kind of after-the-election positioning.) The ones which go on and on about all of the things that Clinton (according to them) has lied about.
I’m not sure if the poor production values are merely massive incompetence. Or if they are trying to send a subliminal message by having all of the imgaes of Clinton look so fuzzy and out of focus….
Meanwhile, we are getting deluged with Trump campaign ads — yes, the campaign, not a PAC. (Since even they cannot believe they have any chance of taking California, this must be some kind of after-the-election positioning.) The ones which go on and on about all of the things that Clinton (according to them) has lied about.
I’m not sure if the poor production values are merely massive incompetence. Or if they are trying to send a subliminal message by having all of the imgaes of Clinton look so fuzzy and out of focus….
Kirk can claim he’s being multicultural by extending the one drop rule to Asian Americans.
Kirk can claim he’s being multicultural by extending the one drop rule to Asian Americans.
Kirk can claim he’s being multicultural by extending the one drop rule to Asian Americans.
I mean, the man is a fncking United States Senator, from Illinois, god knows what kind of thoughts are running through the more southern GOP senators’ heads.* And the GOP wonders why they can’t attract minority voters.
*Or in their and their staff’s emails….
I mean, the man is a fncking United States Senator, from Illinois, god knows what kind of thoughts are running through the more southern GOP senators’ heads.* And the GOP wonders why they can’t attract minority voters.
*Or in their and their staff’s emails….
I mean, the man is a fncking United States Senator, from Illinois, god knows what kind of thoughts are running through the more southern GOP senators’ heads.* And the GOP wonders why they can’t attract minority voters.
*Or in their and their staff’s emails….
it’s Obama’s fault. he didn’t smile at Kirk that one time and now Kirk is overcome with
racismeconomic anxiety.it’s Obama’s fault. he didn’t smile at Kirk that one time and now Kirk is overcome with
racismeconomic anxiety.it’s Obama’s fault. he didn’t smile at Kirk that one time and now Kirk is overcome with
racismeconomic anxiety.As far as Congressional hearings go, I’m disappointed. I fully expected them to start the impeachment process as soon as possible.
As far as Congressional hearings go, I’m disappointed. I fully expected them to start the impeachment process as soon as possible.
As far as Congressional hearings go, I’m disappointed. I fully expected them to start the impeachment process as soon as possible.
Thug!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/28/black_trump_supporter_is_booted_from_a_campaign_rally_after_trump_mistakes.html
Thug!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/28/black_trump_supporter_is_booted_from_a_campaign_rally_after_trump_mistakes.html
Thug!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/28/black_trump_supporter_is_booted_from_a_campaign_rally_after_trump_mistakes.html
this should be fun.
FBI re-opening Clinton email server investigation.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-re-open-investigation-clinton-email-server-n674631
this should be fun.
FBI re-opening Clinton email server investigation.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-re-open-investigation-clinton-email-server-n674631
this should be fun.
FBI re-opening Clinton email server investigation.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-re-open-investigation-clinton-email-server-n674631
But Trump supporters don’t like when snooty liberals say they’re stupid. You just can’t make this stuff up. And by “stuff,” I mean the fact that people will believe the stuff that you can make up, no matter how ridiculous.
But Trump supporters don’t like when snooty liberals say they’re stupid. You just can’t make this stuff up. And by “stuff,” I mean the fact that people will believe the stuff that you can make up, no matter how ridiculous.
But Trump supporters don’t like when snooty liberals say they’re stupid. You just can’t make this stuff up. And by “stuff,” I mean the fact that people will believe the stuff that you can make up, no matter how ridiculous.
In fairness, I googled RealTrueNews and found that they also fooled some people at liberal sites, though not in the same way. No one believed the stories the way alt-right Trump supporters did, but they didn’t realize it was a joke, satirizing bogus right-wing “news sources.” They thought it was just another right-wing “news source.”
Of course, people here have noted before that it’s getting harder and harder to satirize what is an increasingly ridiculous reality. You can’t turn up to 11 what is already at 11, so I guess it’s forgivable that they didn’t get the joke.
In fairness, I googled RealTrueNews and found that they also fooled some people at liberal sites, though not in the same way. No one believed the stories the way alt-right Trump supporters did, but they didn’t realize it was a joke, satirizing bogus right-wing “news sources.” They thought it was just another right-wing “news source.”
Of course, people here have noted before that it’s getting harder and harder to satirize what is an increasingly ridiculous reality. You can’t turn up to 11 what is already at 11, so I guess it’s forgivable that they didn’t get the joke.
In fairness, I googled RealTrueNews and found that they also fooled some people at liberal sites, though not in the same way. No one believed the stories the way alt-right Trump supporters did, but they didn’t realize it was a joke, satirizing bogus right-wing “news sources.” They thought it was just another right-wing “news source.”
Of course, people here have noted before that it’s getting harder and harder to satirize what is an increasingly ridiculous reality. You can’t turn up to 11 what is already at 11, so I guess it’s forgivable that they didn’t get the joke.
This won’t matter ( I wouldn’t think) in our election, but this is funny, given the current complaints of dastardly foreigners interfering in our elections–
http://observer.com/2016/10/2006-audio-emerges-of-hillary-clinton-proposing-rigging-palestine-election/
That was the election Hamas won.
This won’t matter ( I wouldn’t think) in our election, but this is funny, given the current complaints of dastardly foreigners interfering in our elections–
http://observer.com/2016/10/2006-audio-emerges-of-hillary-clinton-proposing-rigging-palestine-election/
That was the election Hamas won.
This won’t matter ( I wouldn’t think) in our election, but this is funny, given the current complaints of dastardly foreigners interfering in our elections–
http://observer.com/2016/10/2006-audio-emerges-of-hillary-clinton-proposing-rigging-palestine-election/
That was the election Hamas won.
Technically, the word for them isn’t “stupid.” It’s “gullible.” Related, perhaps, but quite identical.
Technically, the word for them isn’t “stupid.” It’s “gullible.” Related, perhaps, but quite identical.
Technically, the word for them isn’t “stupid.” It’s “gullible.” Related, perhaps, but quite identical.
Bane memo + new FBI investigation = game changer?
Maybe. Trump is less a long shot today than two days ago.
Bane memo + new FBI investigation = game changer?
Maybe. Trump is less a long shot today than two days ago.
Bane memo + new FBI investigation = game changer?
Maybe. Trump is less a long shot today than two days ago.
In a different context, it might be a game changer. But at this point, there have been so many accusations against Clinton that a new one (even if it turns out to be one of the rare exceptions which actually has some substance behind it) isn’t going to change many minds.
Those who have always been sure that she was an evil person will consider themselves vindicated (yet again). But they were never supporting her anyway.
Those who support her have reached the point of reflexively discounting the latest “game changing disaster” to come down the pike. That’s the trouble with being totally indiscriminate in the accusations that you fling about: if you happen on something real, your credability is minimal.
For a real game changer, the latest e-mails would have to include something that would convince those who are voting for Clinton largely on an against-Trump basis to change. Given that the biggest negative is Trump’s attitudes and behavior towards women, something seriously misogynistic from Clinton or her close staff might do work. But without that, I just can’t see these doing much of anything in the time remaining.
In a different context, it might be a game changer. But at this point, there have been so many accusations against Clinton that a new one (even if it turns out to be one of the rare exceptions which actually has some substance behind it) isn’t going to change many minds.
Those who have always been sure that she was an evil person will consider themselves vindicated (yet again). But they were never supporting her anyway.
Those who support her have reached the point of reflexively discounting the latest “game changing disaster” to come down the pike. That’s the trouble with being totally indiscriminate in the accusations that you fling about: if you happen on something real, your credability is minimal.
For a real game changer, the latest e-mails would have to include something that would convince those who are voting for Clinton largely on an against-Trump basis to change. Given that the biggest negative is Trump’s attitudes and behavior towards women, something seriously misogynistic from Clinton or her close staff might do work. But without that, I just can’t see these doing much of anything in the time remaining.
In a different context, it might be a game changer. But at this point, there have been so many accusations against Clinton that a new one (even if it turns out to be one of the rare exceptions which actually has some substance behind it) isn’t going to change many minds.
Those who have always been sure that she was an evil person will consider themselves vindicated (yet again). But they were never supporting her anyway.
Those who support her have reached the point of reflexively discounting the latest “game changing disaster” to come down the pike. That’s the trouble with being totally indiscriminate in the accusations that you fling about: if you happen on something real, your credability is minimal.
For a real game changer, the latest e-mails would have to include something that would convince those who are voting for Clinton largely on an against-Trump basis to change. Given that the biggest negative is Trump’s attitudes and behavior towards women, something seriously misogynistic from Clinton or her close staff might do work. But without that, I just can’t see these doing much of anything in the time remaining.
as I read the piece, the FBI has as of yet neither re-opened the investigation, nor started a new one.
nonetheless, this will achieve (has already achieved) the cokie roberts status of being ‘out there’.
i just want this election to be freaking over, so we can get on with the process of learning to live with either a flaming know-nothing asshole as POTUS, or 4 to 8 years of non-stop ankle-biting bullshit.
hard to say which would be worse.
as I read the piece, the FBI has as of yet neither re-opened the investigation, nor started a new one.
nonetheless, this will achieve (has already achieved) the cokie roberts status of being ‘out there’.
i just want this election to be freaking over, so we can get on with the process of learning to live with either a flaming know-nothing asshole as POTUS, or 4 to 8 years of non-stop ankle-biting bullshit.
hard to say which would be worse.
as I read the piece, the FBI has as of yet neither re-opened the investigation, nor started a new one.
nonetheless, this will achieve (has already achieved) the cokie roberts status of being ‘out there’.
i just want this election to be freaking over, so we can get on with the process of learning to live with either a flaming know-nothing asshole as POTUS, or 4 to 8 years of non-stop ankle-biting bullshit.
hard to say which would be worse.
Bane memo?
Bane memo?
Bane memo?
Douglas Bane wrote a 12 page memo that was hacked. It’s problematic. Part of the Wikileaks thing.
Douglas Bane wrote a 12 page memo that was hacked. It’s problematic. Part of the Wikileaks thing.
Douglas Bane wrote a 12 page memo that was hacked. It’s problematic. Part of the Wikileaks thing.
Band, not Bane.
Band, not Bane.
Band, not Bane.
Technically, the word for them isn’t “stupid.” It’s “gullible.” Related, perhaps, but quite identical.
Hey, as the only person here who has been seriously gullible, albeit as a liberal, and in this very thread, I object!
Although I would like to state for the record, and no doubt some would call me stupid, that even if HRC is found to be guilty of some kind of wrongdoing or even criminality in the matter of the emails, I believe that she would still be a superior President to Trump, both for the US and the World.
Technically, the word for them isn’t “stupid.” It’s “gullible.” Related, perhaps, but quite identical.
Hey, as the only person here who has been seriously gullible, albeit as a liberal, and in this very thread, I object!
Although I would like to state for the record, and no doubt some would call me stupid, that even if HRC is found to be guilty of some kind of wrongdoing or even criminality in the matter of the emails, I believe that she would still be a superior President to Trump, both for the US and the World.
Technically, the word for them isn’t “stupid.” It’s “gullible.” Related, perhaps, but quite identical.
Hey, as the only person here who has been seriously gullible, albeit as a liberal, and in this very thread, I object!
Although I would like to state for the record, and no doubt some would call me stupid, that even if HRC is found to be guilty of some kind of wrongdoing or even criminality in the matter of the emails, I believe that she would still be a superior President to Trump, both for the US and the World.
Oh the “how I made Bill Clinton rich” memo. Got it.
Oh the “how I made Bill Clinton rich” memo. Got it.
Oh the “how I made Bill Clinton rich” memo. Got it.
This new thing seems to be emails between the two of them from Anthony Wiener and Huma Abedin’s computers. Notwithstanding my completely partisan pro-HRC previous comment, this does look as if there may not be much to it.
This new thing seems to be emails between the two of them from Anthony Wiener and Huma Abedin’s computers. Notwithstanding my completely partisan pro-HRC previous comment, this does look as if there may not be much to it.
This new thing seems to be emails between the two of them from Anthony Wiener and Huma Abedin’s computers. Notwithstanding my completely partisan pro-HRC previous comment, this does look as if there may not be much to it.
It definitely looks to be in “seriously tacky, but nowhere near illegal” territory.
It definitely looks to be in “seriously tacky, but nowhere near illegal” territory.
It definitely looks to be in “seriously tacky, but nowhere near illegal” territory.
“It’s problematic.”
i hate to break it to you, but in context ‘problematic’ just ain’t a thing.
a lot of people with money spend a lot of their money to get close to people with power.
we call that speech.
yes, i keep making the same point. because it continues to be true.
“It’s problematic.”
i hate to break it to you, but in context ‘problematic’ just ain’t a thing.
a lot of people with money spend a lot of their money to get close to people with power.
we call that speech.
yes, i keep making the same point. because it continues to be true.
“It’s problematic.”
i hate to break it to you, but in context ‘problematic’ just ain’t a thing.
a lot of people with money spend a lot of their money to get close to people with power.
we call that speech.
yes, i keep making the same point. because it continues to be true.
Hillary Clinton is not quite the Virgin Mary. Therefore she must be defeated.
He, Trump is not literally Beelzebub. Therefore He must be elected.
This is the logic I have heard from a now frighteningly large number of the otherwise-sane engineers I work with — in suburban Boston! It worries me, because I have begun to lose respect for colleagues whose judgement I used to trust. (You might think I’d worry about them losing respect for me, but I have good reason NOT to worry about that.) Trump’s birtherism is not a strike against him, for these people. Why should I need to see His tax returns, they ask. The Clinton Foundation spends 90% of its money on salaries, they mutter darkly. Well, if you believe we have to do something about global warming … they trail off. It’s a fair bet I won’t be working with these particular people over all of the next four years, but even in The Commonwealth, God save it, I will still be living among them. Scary.
–TP
Hillary Clinton is not quite the Virgin Mary. Therefore she must be defeated.
He, Trump is not literally Beelzebub. Therefore He must be elected.
This is the logic I have heard from a now frighteningly large number of the otherwise-sane engineers I work with — in suburban Boston! It worries me, because I have begun to lose respect for colleagues whose judgement I used to trust. (You might think I’d worry about them losing respect for me, but I have good reason NOT to worry about that.) Trump’s birtherism is not a strike against him, for these people. Why should I need to see His tax returns, they ask. The Clinton Foundation spends 90% of its money on salaries, they mutter darkly. Well, if you believe we have to do something about global warming … they trail off. It’s a fair bet I won’t be working with these particular people over all of the next four years, but even in The Commonwealth, God save it, I will still be living among them. Scary.
–TP
Hillary Clinton is not quite the Virgin Mary. Therefore she must be defeated.
He, Trump is not literally Beelzebub. Therefore He must be elected.
This is the logic I have heard from a now frighteningly large number of the otherwise-sane engineers I work with — in suburban Boston! It worries me, because I have begun to lose respect for colleagues whose judgement I used to trust. (You might think I’d worry about them losing respect for me, but I have good reason NOT to worry about that.) Trump’s birtherism is not a strike against him, for these people. Why should I need to see His tax returns, they ask. The Clinton Foundation spends 90% of its money on salaries, they mutter darkly. Well, if you believe we have to do something about global warming … they trail off. It’s a fair bet I won’t be working with these particular people over all of the next four years, but even in The Commonwealth, God save it, I will still be living among them. Scary.
–TP
Based on the WaPo write-up is sounds like people paid a lot of money for access to Bill. Anything else in it? I will try to read the memo itself later.
Based on the WaPo write-up is sounds like people paid a lot of money for access to Bill. Anything else in it? I will try to read the memo itself later.
Based on the WaPo write-up is sounds like people paid a lot of money for access to Bill. Anything else in it? I will try to read the memo itself later.
My take is that the big deal is that the same guy who solicited donations to the Clinton Foundation also solicited for-profit gigs for Bill. That and that there was a bunch of money involved.
But I think it was a matter of record who donated to the foundation. I think it was also a matter of record how much income Bill received and from where.
What I don’t think has surfaced is any actual mingling of foundation money and Bill’s income. It would be one thing if money that was supposed to go to the foundation for charitable purposes went into Bill’s pocket (or to buy a big ole portrait of him).
The other issue is whether or not anyone got undue consideration in Hillary’s dealings in her official capacities (i.e. quid pro quo). I don’t think that’s been established either.
All in all, it just sounds like Bill’s been a bit greedy about leveraging his name as a very popular former president.
My take is that the big deal is that the same guy who solicited donations to the Clinton Foundation also solicited for-profit gigs for Bill. That and that there was a bunch of money involved.
But I think it was a matter of record who donated to the foundation. I think it was also a matter of record how much income Bill received and from where.
What I don’t think has surfaced is any actual mingling of foundation money and Bill’s income. It would be one thing if money that was supposed to go to the foundation for charitable purposes went into Bill’s pocket (or to buy a big ole portrait of him).
The other issue is whether or not anyone got undue consideration in Hillary’s dealings in her official capacities (i.e. quid pro quo). I don’t think that’s been established either.
All in all, it just sounds like Bill’s been a bit greedy about leveraging his name as a very popular former president.
My take is that the big deal is that the same guy who solicited donations to the Clinton Foundation also solicited for-profit gigs for Bill. That and that there was a bunch of money involved.
But I think it was a matter of record who donated to the foundation. I think it was also a matter of record how much income Bill received and from where.
What I don’t think has surfaced is any actual mingling of foundation money and Bill’s income. It would be one thing if money that was supposed to go to the foundation for charitable purposes went into Bill’s pocket (or to buy a big ole portrait of him).
The other issue is whether or not anyone got undue consideration in Hillary’s dealings in her official capacities (i.e. quid pro quo). I don’t think that’s been established either.
All in all, it just sounds like Bill’s been a bit greedy about leveraging his name as a very popular former president.
Also it seems that the new emails are “not from Hillary” and not withheld by either State or the Clinton campaign.
And Comey is taking heat
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-fbi-james-comey-disclosure-prosecutors-230467
Also it seems that the new emails are “not from Hillary” and not withheld by either State or the Clinton campaign.
And Comey is taking heat
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-fbi-james-comey-disclosure-prosecutors-230467
Also it seems that the new emails are “not from Hillary” and not withheld by either State or the Clinton campaign.
And Comey is taking heat
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-fbi-james-comey-disclosure-prosecutors-230467
If turns out to be a big nothing Comey needs to resign.
If turns out to be a big nothing Comey needs to resign.
If turns out to be a big nothing Comey needs to resign.
Well, it may be a big nothing. Who knows. But.
1. I’m tired of hearing about people doing what seems to be incredibly stupid stuff.
2. Even if it’s a big nothing it’s going to have an effect. Making it stupid regardless of whether it is or not.
Well, it may be a big nothing. Who knows. But.
1. I’m tired of hearing about people doing what seems to be incredibly stupid stuff.
2. Even if it’s a big nothing it’s going to have an effect. Making it stupid regardless of whether it is or not.
Well, it may be a big nothing. Who knows. But.
1. I’m tired of hearing about people doing what seems to be incredibly stupid stuff.
2. Even if it’s a big nothing it’s going to have an effect. Making it stupid regardless of whether it is or not.
it’s going to have an effect. Making it stupid
Hillary Clinton did one stupid thing – she took the advice of some people who told her that a private server was the way to solve problems. Other people had done similar things (Colin Powell and lots of Executive Department people in the Bush administration who used an RNC server, where millions of emails were completely destroyed).
She stated that it was a mistake and apologized for it, and turned over most of the emails that were on it.
Get a grip. She did very little that is wrong, and this issue isn’t some additional problem. She “mishandled” classified information? Is that the issue? Or did wikileaks not get enough dirt on her?
it’s going to have an effect. Making it stupid
Hillary Clinton did one stupid thing – she took the advice of some people who told her that a private server was the way to solve problems. Other people had done similar things (Colin Powell and lots of Executive Department people in the Bush administration who used an RNC server, where millions of emails were completely destroyed).
She stated that it was a mistake and apologized for it, and turned over most of the emails that were on it.
Get a grip. She did very little that is wrong, and this issue isn’t some additional problem. She “mishandled” classified information? Is that the issue? Or did wikileaks not get enough dirt on her?
it’s going to have an effect. Making it stupid
Hillary Clinton did one stupid thing – she took the advice of some people who told her that a private server was the way to solve problems. Other people had done similar things (Colin Powell and lots of Executive Department people in the Bush administration who used an RNC server, where millions of emails were completely destroyed).
She stated that it was a mistake and apologized for it, and turned over most of the emails that were on it.
Get a grip. She did very little that is wrong, and this issue isn’t some additional problem. She “mishandled” classified information? Is that the issue? Or did wikileaks not get enough dirt on her?
Noted leftist Norman Ornstein’s twitter take on what Comey should have said:
What should Comey letter have said?1.obligated to write.2.Not emails fromClinton.3.Not from Wikileaks, Foundation.4.Dont draw inferences
Noted leftist Norman Ornstein’s twitter take on what Comey should have said:
What should Comey letter have said?1.obligated to write.2.Not emails fromClinton.3.Not from Wikileaks, Foundation.4.Dont draw inferences
Noted leftist Norman Ornstein’s twitter take on what Comey should have said:
What should Comey letter have said?1.obligated to write.2.Not emails fromClinton.3.Not from Wikileaks, Foundation.4.Dont draw inferences
Tweet from John Favreau:
“America, I’m terribly sorry my staffer shared a family laptop with her estranged husband.”
Tweet from John Favreau:
“America, I’m terribly sorry my staffer shared a family laptop with her estranged husband.”
Tweet from John Favreau:
“America, I’m terribly sorry my staffer shared a family laptop with her estranged husband.”
Paul Ryan is an idiot.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-fbi-reopen-investigation-paul-ryan-230456
Paul Ryan is an idiot.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-fbi-reopen-investigation-paul-ryan-230456
Paul Ryan is an idiot.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-fbi-reopen-investigation-paul-ryan-230456
I thought Comey acted like a partisan hack with his press conference a few months ago, and I now think Comey wasn’t acting. He really is a partisan hack.
Like Paul Ryan, James Comey has unfairly acquired a reputation as a serious person because the punditocracy desperately needs to believe in Serious People on Both Sides.
–TP
I thought Comey acted like a partisan hack with his press conference a few months ago, and I now think Comey wasn’t acting. He really is a partisan hack.
Like Paul Ryan, James Comey has unfairly acquired a reputation as a serious person because the punditocracy desperately needs to believe in Serious People on Both Sides.
–TP
I thought Comey acted like a partisan hack with his press conference a few months ago, and I now think Comey wasn’t acting. He really is a partisan hack.
Like Paul Ryan, James Comey has unfairly acquired a reputation as a serious person because the punditocracy desperately needs to believe in Serious People on Both Sides.
–TP
From NBC news write up of the Band memo:
Hillary Clinton is not directly implicated, as she was serving as secretary of state at the time and not involved in the Foundation.
And:
But more than Band’s role, the memo will likely remain a political artifact for how it details Bill Clinton’s willingness to accept business opportunities for himself.
The horror.
From NBC news write up of the Band memo:
Hillary Clinton is not directly implicated, as she was serving as secretary of state at the time and not involved in the Foundation.
And:
But more than Band’s role, the memo will likely remain a political artifact for how it details Bill Clinton’s willingness to accept business opportunities for himself.
The horror.
From NBC news write up of the Band memo:
Hillary Clinton is not directly implicated, as she was serving as secretary of state at the time and not involved in the Foundation.
And:
But more than Band’s role, the memo will likely remain a political artifact for how it details Bill Clinton’s willingness to accept business opportunities for himself.
The horror.
I thought Comey acted like a partisan hack with his press conference a few months ago, and I now think Comey wasn’t acting. He really is a partisan hack.
Thank you.
I thought Comey acted like a partisan hack with his press conference a few months ago, and I now think Comey wasn’t acting. He really is a partisan hack.
Thank you.
I thought Comey acted like a partisan hack with his press conference a few months ago, and I now think Comey wasn’t acting. He really is a partisan hack.
Thank you.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/james-comey
Again, Comey should resign even if Josh’s take is accurate.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/james-comey
Again, Comey should resign even if Josh’s take is accurate.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/james-comey
Again, Comey should resign even if Josh’s take is accurate.
There should be a rising tide of outrage demanding to see every email Comey ever sent or received on any device.
And what’s with the Bundy, et.al aquittal? Payback for the O.J. verdict?
There should be a rising tide of outrage demanding to see every email Comey ever sent or received on any device.
And what’s with the Bundy, et.al aquittal? Payback for the O.J. verdict?
There should be a rising tide of outrage demanding to see every email Comey ever sent or received on any device.
And what’s with the Bundy, et.al aquittal? Payback for the O.J. verdict?
And what’s with the Bundy, et.al aquittal? Payback for the O.J. verdict?
I’ve never been so scared for our country. Have to figure out where the Resistance is if things go from this to worse.
And what’s with the Bundy, et.al aquittal? Payback for the O.J. verdict?
I’ve never been so scared for our country. Have to figure out where the Resistance is if things go from this to worse.
And what’s with the Bundy, et.al aquittal? Payback for the O.J. verdict?
I’ve never been so scared for our country. Have to figure out where the Resistance is if things go from this to worse.
“I’ve never been so scared for our country.”
The refusal of courts to hold Nazi brownshirts responsible for their criminal acts had some rather bad effects, I think.
Good thing that “It Can’t Happen Here”, or so I hear.
“I’ve never been so scared for our country.”
The refusal of courts to hold Nazi brownshirts responsible for their criminal acts had some rather bad effects, I think.
Good thing that “It Can’t Happen Here”, or so I hear.
“I’ve never been so scared for our country.”
The refusal of courts to hold Nazi brownshirts responsible for their criminal acts had some rather bad effects, I think.
Good thing that “It Can’t Happen Here”, or so I hear.
I’m trying to channel my inner conspiracy theorist. Do you suppose this latest Clinton email thing is a diabolical scheme . . . by the Clinton campaign?
Think about it. A notable feature of the last few days, campaign-wise, has been an absence of self-damaging comments and/or tweets from Trump. Could anything be better calculated to get Trump out of his shell than this? And the more the country sees of Trump, the worse he does.
Hey, it’s no more ridiculous than most of the conspiracy theories out there.
I’m trying to channel my inner conspiracy theorist. Do you suppose this latest Clinton email thing is a diabolical scheme . . . by the Clinton campaign?
Think about it. A notable feature of the last few days, campaign-wise, has been an absence of self-damaging comments and/or tweets from Trump. Could anything be better calculated to get Trump out of his shell than this? And the more the country sees of Trump, the worse he does.
Hey, it’s no more ridiculous than most of the conspiracy theories out there.
I’m trying to channel my inner conspiracy theorist. Do you suppose this latest Clinton email thing is a diabolical scheme . . . by the Clinton campaign?
Think about it. A notable feature of the last few days, campaign-wise, has been an absence of self-damaging comments and/or tweets from Trump. Could anything be better calculated to get Trump out of his shell than this? And the more the country sees of Trump, the worse he does.
Hey, it’s no more ridiculous than most of the conspiracy theories out there.
He, Trump came far enough out of his shell to allow that maybe The System is less rigged than he thought. That might lend support to your theory, wj, except that you and I and the Clinton campaign know perfectly well that what He, Trump says today seldom correlates to what He will say tomorrow. The System will be rigged again soon enough.
–TP
He, Trump came far enough out of his shell to allow that maybe The System is less rigged than he thought. That might lend support to your theory, wj, except that you and I and the Clinton campaign know perfectly well that what He, Trump says today seldom correlates to what He will say tomorrow. The System will be rigged again soon enough.
–TP
He, Trump came far enough out of his shell to allow that maybe The System is less rigged than he thought. That might lend support to your theory, wj, except that you and I and the Clinton campaign know perfectly well that what He, Trump says today seldom correlates to what He will say tomorrow. The System will be rigged again soon enough.
–TP
Tony P:
Out of curiosity, how many of the engineers of which you speak are female? I’m prepared to make a guess …
Mr Dr Science, BTW, has spoken to what may be the one (1) black Trump supporter in southeastern Pennsylvania. His reason? “Women aren’t as good as men, everybody knows it. We should never have given them the vote.”
Tony P:
Out of curiosity, how many of the engineers of which you speak are female? I’m prepared to make a guess …
Mr Dr Science, BTW, has spoken to what may be the one (1) black Trump supporter in southeastern Pennsylvania. His reason? “Women aren’t as good as men, everybody knows it. We should never have given them the vote.”
Tony P:
Out of curiosity, how many of the engineers of which you speak are female? I’m prepared to make a guess …
Mr Dr Science, BTW, has spoken to what may be the one (1) black Trump supporter in southeastern Pennsylvania. His reason? “Women aren’t as good as men, everybody knows it. We should never have given them the vote.”
I think you need to go Jim
http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918
I think you need to go Jim
http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918
I think you need to go Jim
http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918
More:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-justice-department-emails
Not sure how he continues to serve in a Clinton Administration
More:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-justice-department-emails
Not sure how he continues to serve in a Clinton Administration
More:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-justice-department-emails
Not sure how he continues to serve in a Clinton Administration
sapient,
She did very little that is wrong, and this issue isn’t some additional problem.
It may well not be a legal problem. It’s certainly a political problem. And however little she may have done wrong legally, she has somehow permitted this whole email mess to dog her and dog her.
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier, but I do know that when stuff like that comes up the thing to do is get it over with. My impression – that’s all it is – is that Clinton was way too slow in admitting the mistake and apologizing. And if that’s right, then it was dumb.
I am hating this.
sapient,
She did very little that is wrong, and this issue isn’t some additional problem.
It may well not be a legal problem. It’s certainly a political problem. And however little she may have done wrong legally, she has somehow permitted this whole email mess to dog her and dog her.
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier, but I do know that when stuff like that comes up the thing to do is get it over with. My impression – that’s all it is – is that Clinton was way too slow in admitting the mistake and apologizing. And if that’s right, then it was dumb.
I am hating this.
sapient,
She did very little that is wrong, and this issue isn’t some additional problem.
It may well not be a legal problem. It’s certainly a political problem. And however little she may have done wrong legally, she has somehow permitted this whole email mess to dog her and dog her.
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier, but I do know that when stuff like that comes up the thing to do is get it over with. My impression – that’s all it is – is that Clinton was way too slow in admitting the mistake and apologizing. And if that’s right, then it was dumb.
I am hating this.
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier
Before you cast aspersions, you should read widely.
My impression – that’s all it is – is that Clinton was way too slow in admitting the mistake and apologizing.
She did this a long time ago, and yesterday held a press conference asking that all of the emails be made public. There’s no there there, never has been. The press needs a “both sides” story. Vince Foster, too.
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier
Before you cast aspersions, you should read widely.
My impression – that’s all it is – is that Clinton was way too slow in admitting the mistake and apologizing.
She did this a long time ago, and yesterday held a press conference asking that all of the emails be made public. There’s no there there, never has been. The press needs a “both sides” story. Vince Foster, too.
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier
Before you cast aspersions, you should read widely.
My impression – that’s all it is – is that Clinton was way too slow in admitting the mistake and apologizing.
She did this a long time ago, and yesterday held a press conference asking that all of the emails be made public. There’s no there there, never has been. The press needs a “both sides” story. Vince Foster, too.
byomtov, you might start your reading here.
byomtov, you might start your reading here.
byomtov, you might start your reading here.
DocSci,
Of course they’re all men.
But to be fair, I have no idea whether any of the women in the company might be Trump supporters. I have not heard any of them pipe up one way or t’other.
–TP
DocSci,
Of course they’re all men.
But to be fair, I have no idea whether any of the women in the company might be Trump supporters. I have not heard any of them pipe up one way or t’other.
–TP
DocSci,
Of course they’re all men.
But to be fair, I have no idea whether any of the women in the company might be Trump supporters. I have not heard any of them pipe up one way or t’other.
–TP
actual voter fraud! elections are rigged!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice
i blame Obama.
actual voter fraud! elections are rigged!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice
i blame Obama.
actual voter fraud! elections are rigged!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-supporter-charged-with-voting-twice
i blame Obama.
Tony, if the women were Trump supporters, there would be no reason not to say so. But if they aren’t, there are obvious incentives to avoid the topic. Especially if the guys talking up Trump are senior.
Tony, if the women were Trump supporters, there would be no reason not to say so. But if they aren’t, there are obvious incentives to avoid the topic. Especially if the guys talking up Trump are senior.
Tony, if the women were Trump supporters, there would be no reason not to say so. But if they aren’t, there are obvious incentives to avoid the topic. Especially if the guys talking up Trump are senior.
Before you cast aspersions…
Huh?
Before you cast aspersions…
Huh?
Before you cast aspersions…
Huh?
wj,
The most senior people in the company include a Swedish immigrant, an Italian immigrant, and an Israeli immigrant. Oh, and not to forget the Iranian immigrant, who can’t get over the similarities between He, Trump and Ahmadinejad. I have not heard them (except the last guy) express an opinion on the election, but they don’t quite fit the profile of The Trump Voter. Of course, the lower-level engineers I was talking about don’t quite fit the profile, either, so who knows?
–TP
wj,
The most senior people in the company include a Swedish immigrant, an Italian immigrant, and an Israeli immigrant. Oh, and not to forget the Iranian immigrant, who can’t get over the similarities between He, Trump and Ahmadinejad. I have not heard them (except the last guy) express an opinion on the election, but they don’t quite fit the profile of The Trump Voter. Of course, the lower-level engineers I was talking about don’t quite fit the profile, either, so who knows?
–TP
wj,
The most senior people in the company include a Swedish immigrant, an Italian immigrant, and an Israeli immigrant. Oh, and not to forget the Iranian immigrant, who can’t get over the similarities between He, Trump and Ahmadinejad. I have not heard them (except the last guy) express an opinion on the election, but they don’t quite fit the profile of The Trump Voter. Of course, the lower-level engineers I was talking about don’t quite fit the profile, either, so who knows?
–TP
It was a politically stupid decision at the time, and Comey’s action yesterday, horribly wrong as it was, continues to demonstrate why it was politically stupid. It was an unforced error and self-inflicted wound and exactly the kind of thing that has a negative impact on low information voters, while feeding right into one of the primary issues voters have concerns about.
That Mayer’s piece demonstrates Comey’s incompetence and unfitness to further occupy his position has no bearing on the wisdom of Clinton’s decision. I voted for her earlier today and believe she can, and hope she will, be a very good President. That she is also capable of this kind of mistake is maddening.
It was a politically stupid decision at the time, and Comey’s action yesterday, horribly wrong as it was, continues to demonstrate why it was politically stupid. It was an unforced error and self-inflicted wound and exactly the kind of thing that has a negative impact on low information voters, while feeding right into one of the primary issues voters have concerns about.
That Mayer’s piece demonstrates Comey’s incompetence and unfitness to further occupy his position has no bearing on the wisdom of Clinton’s decision. I voted for her earlier today and believe she can, and hope she will, be a very good President. That she is also capable of this kind of mistake is maddening.
It was a politically stupid decision at the time, and Comey’s action yesterday, horribly wrong as it was, continues to demonstrate why it was politically stupid. It was an unforced error and self-inflicted wound and exactly the kind of thing that has a negative impact on low information voters, while feeding right into one of the primary issues voters have concerns about.
That Mayer’s piece demonstrates Comey’s incompetence and unfitness to further occupy his position has no bearing on the wisdom of Clinton’s decision. I voted for her earlier today and believe she can, and hope she will, be a very good President. That she is also capable of this kind of mistake is maddening.
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier, but I do know that when stuff like that comes up the thing to do is get it over with.
You pretty much have the right of it. It was textbook Clintontonian tone-deafness: there is criticism of me, the media is repeating it, the media hates me so why should I care or take it seriously?
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier, but I do know that when stuff like that comes up the thing to do is get it over with.
You pretty much have the right of it. It was textbook Clintontonian tone-deafness: there is criticism of me, the media is repeating it, the media hates me so why should I care or take it seriously?
I admit I haven’t followed the details here or earlier, but I do know that when stuff like that comes up the thing to do is get it over with.
You pretty much have the right of it. It was textbook Clintontonian tone-deafness: there is criticism of me, the media is repeating it, the media hates me so why should I care or take it seriously?
It was a politically stupid decision at the time,
Perhaps, but this was the first time in history anyone made an issue out of it. See Colin Powell, and see the Bush White House.
Yes, it was dumb, and it’s maddening, but everyone does something dumb (even Obama, in appointing Jim Comey). Considering that most of the emails were turned over, and even hacked emails have been nothingburgers,I don’t really see why we haven’t moved on to the acceptance stage.
It was a politically stupid decision at the time,
Perhaps, but this was the first time in history anyone made an issue out of it. See Colin Powell, and see the Bush White House.
Yes, it was dumb, and it’s maddening, but everyone does something dumb (even Obama, in appointing Jim Comey). Considering that most of the emails were turned over, and even hacked emails have been nothingburgers,I don’t really see why we haven’t moved on to the acceptance stage.
It was a politically stupid decision at the time,
Perhaps, but this was the first time in history anyone made an issue out of it. See Colin Powell, and see the Bush White House.
Yes, it was dumb, and it’s maddening, but everyone does something dumb (even Obama, in appointing Jim Comey). Considering that most of the emails were turned over, and even hacked emails have been nothingburgers,I don’t really see why we haven’t moved on to the acceptance stage.
I have the distinct impression, across decades of observation, that those in powerful positions (in government and the private sector both) routinely put things in writing which leave me asking myself “What the hell were they thinking?!?!?” I guess they just live in a whole different world.
I have the distinct impression, across decades of observation, that those in powerful positions (in government and the private sector both) routinely put things in writing which leave me asking myself “What the hell were they thinking?!?!?” I guess they just live in a whole different world.
I have the distinct impression, across decades of observation, that those in powerful positions (in government and the private sector both) routinely put things in writing which leave me asking myself “What the hell were they thinking?!?!?” I guess they just live in a whole different world.
ugh: …exactly the kind of thing that has a negative impact on low information voters, while feeding right into one of the primary issues voters have concerns about.
ugh,
It’s not clear that “the kind of thing” you’re talking about is using a private email server in the first place, but let me pretend for a minute that’s what you meant.
What I’d like to know is why Hillary’s instinct to keep her emails private is more “politically stupid” — as far as “low-information voters” are concerned — than He, Trump’s determination to keep his tax returns private.
Why does Hillary need to achieve perfection in order to be politically smart, while He, Trump merely has to avoid shooting somebody on 5th Avenue? I’m not asking you; I’m asking why you suppose it is that “voters” are inclined to think that way.
–TP
ugh: …exactly the kind of thing that has a negative impact on low information voters, while feeding right into one of the primary issues voters have concerns about.
ugh,
It’s not clear that “the kind of thing” you’re talking about is using a private email server in the first place, but let me pretend for a minute that’s what you meant.
What I’d like to know is why Hillary’s instinct to keep her emails private is more “politically stupid” — as far as “low-information voters” are concerned — than He, Trump’s determination to keep his tax returns private.
Why does Hillary need to achieve perfection in order to be politically smart, while He, Trump merely has to avoid shooting somebody on 5th Avenue? I’m not asking you; I’m asking why you suppose it is that “voters” are inclined to think that way.
–TP
ugh: …exactly the kind of thing that has a negative impact on low information voters, while feeding right into one of the primary issues voters have concerns about.
ugh,
It’s not clear that “the kind of thing” you’re talking about is using a private email server in the first place, but let me pretend for a minute that’s what you meant.
What I’d like to know is why Hillary’s instinct to keep her emails private is more “politically stupid” — as far as “low-information voters” are concerned — than He, Trump’s determination to keep his tax returns private.
Why does Hillary need to achieve perfection in order to be politically smart, while He, Trump merely has to avoid shooting somebody on 5th Avenue? I’m not asking you; I’m asking why you suppose it is that “voters” are inclined to think that way.
–TP
Why does Hillary need to achieve perfection in order to be politically smart, while He, Trump merely has to avoid shooting somebody on 5th Avenue?
Answer: Clinton rules.
Why does Hillary need to achieve perfection in order to be politically smart, while He, Trump merely has to avoid shooting somebody on 5th Avenue?
Answer: Clinton rules.
Why does Hillary need to achieve perfection in order to be politically smart, while He, Trump merely has to avoid shooting somebody on 5th Avenue?
Answer: Clinton rules.
Tony,
As far as I can tell it’s the whole “classified information” business. Further, Trump was able to put an end to things himself. He stomped his foot and said “no tax returns.” Whatever the negative reaction to that, it passes. Clinton couldn’t do that. She had the FBI, etc. to deal with, so it stayed in the news and was, rightly or not, a constant matter of discussion.
Imagine if it were public knowledge that the IRS was investigating Trump for outright tax fraud, and the issues involved were generally known.
I think that would be comparable.
Tony,
As far as I can tell it’s the whole “classified information” business. Further, Trump was able to put an end to things himself. He stomped his foot and said “no tax returns.” Whatever the negative reaction to that, it passes. Clinton couldn’t do that. She had the FBI, etc. to deal with, so it stayed in the news and was, rightly or not, a constant matter of discussion.
Imagine if it were public knowledge that the IRS was investigating Trump for outright tax fraud, and the issues involved were generally known.
I think that would be comparable.
Tony,
As far as I can tell it’s the whole “classified information” business. Further, Trump was able to put an end to things himself. He stomped his foot and said “no tax returns.” Whatever the negative reaction to that, it passes. Clinton couldn’t do that. She had the FBI, etc. to deal with, so it stayed in the news and was, rightly or not, a constant matter of discussion.
Imagine if it were public knowledge that the IRS was investigating Trump for outright tax fraud, and the issues involved were generally known.
I think that would be comparable.
sapient,
I’m familiar with the criticisms of Comey’s actions, and they seem valid to me. My points relate to the longer history of the whole email business.
Like Sanders, I’ve had enough of it.
sapient,
I’m familiar with the criticisms of Comey’s actions, and they seem valid to me. My points relate to the longer history of the whole email business.
Like Sanders, I’ve had enough of it.
sapient,
I’m familiar with the criticisms of Comey’s actions, and they seem valid to me. My points relate to the longer history of the whole email business.
Like Sanders, I’ve had enough of it.
Like Sanders, I’ve had enough of it.
We all have. Tell the Republicans “enough already.”
Like Sanders, I’ve had enough of it.
We all have. Tell the Republicans “enough already.”
Like Sanders, I’ve had enough of it.
We all have. Tell the Republicans “enough already.”
sapient,
Republicans don’t matter in this case: “enough already” is ultimately an appeal to a sense of shame, and Republicans of the Trump-supporting variety don’t have any.
Tell Democrats “enough already” Enough with kowtowing to the notion that our candidate has to be above suspicion by the other side. Enough with tolerating the mindless conflation between “classified information” and national security.
AND: enough with pretending that “serious”, “moderate” Republicans exist in Washington. It’s easily arguable that the serious, moderate Sandra Day O’Connor single-handedly foisted Dick and Dubya on this country, and it will be hard to argue that the serious, moderate James Comey did NOT single-handedly foist He, Trump on this country, should that calamity come to pass.
–TP
sapient,
Republicans don’t matter in this case: “enough already” is ultimately an appeal to a sense of shame, and Republicans of the Trump-supporting variety don’t have any.
Tell Democrats “enough already” Enough with kowtowing to the notion that our candidate has to be above suspicion by the other side. Enough with tolerating the mindless conflation between “classified information” and national security.
AND: enough with pretending that “serious”, “moderate” Republicans exist in Washington. It’s easily arguable that the serious, moderate Sandra Day O’Connor single-handedly foisted Dick and Dubya on this country, and it will be hard to argue that the serious, moderate James Comey did NOT single-handedly foist He, Trump on this country, should that calamity come to pass.
–TP
sapient,
Republicans don’t matter in this case: “enough already” is ultimately an appeal to a sense of shame, and Republicans of the Trump-supporting variety don’t have any.
Tell Democrats “enough already” Enough with kowtowing to the notion that our candidate has to be above suspicion by the other side. Enough with tolerating the mindless conflation between “classified information” and national security.
AND: enough with pretending that “serious”, “moderate” Republicans exist in Washington. It’s easily arguable that the serious, moderate Sandra Day O’Connor single-handedly foisted Dick and Dubya on this country, and it will be hard to argue that the serious, moderate James Comey did NOT single-handedly foist He, Trump on this country, should that calamity come to pass.
–TP
My position when Obama appointed Comey, as well as Gates. We’re there no qualified democrats?
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/10/can-this-please-the-end-of-republican-daddies-in-democratic-administrations
My position when Obama appointed Comey, as well as Gates. We’re there no qualified democrats?
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/10/can-this-please-the-end-of-republican-daddies-in-democratic-administrations
My position when Obama appointed Comey, as well as Gates. We’re there no qualified democrats?
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/10/can-this-please-the-end-of-republican-daddies-in-democratic-administrations
Thanks for putting it in proper perspective, Tony P.
Thanks for putting it in proper perspective, Tony P.
Thanks for putting it in proper perspective, Tony P.
That assumes the “enough already” arguments are appeals to shame. If they’re “this is such a bore”, well, they’ll definitely have an impact on both sides’ apparatchiks, as well as the excluded political middle.
That assumes the “enough already” arguments are appeals to shame. If they’re “this is such a bore”, well, they’ll definitely have an impact on both sides’ apparatchiks, as well as the excluded political middle.
That assumes the “enough already” arguments are appeals to shame. If they’re “this is such a bore”, well, they’ll definitely have an impact on both sides’ apparatchiks, as well as the excluded political middle.
“Whatever the negative reaction to that, it passes. Clinton couldn’t do that. ”
IMO, there is no response that Clinton could make, to any allegation, in any context, that would deflect her political enemies from pursuing any and every possible or even impossible hint of wrongdoing to the absolute bitter end.
It’s like they’ve contracted some kind of freaking political rabies.
People hate her. I don’t know why, they just do, It’s a freaking mania.
If she responds, she’s clearly being defensive. If she tries to blow it off, she’s hiding something. If she complains about harrassment, she’s being paranoid and a poor sport.
The bar for Clinton is insanely high, and there is nothing whatsoever that can do or say that will satisfy her critics.
It’s an obsession. Apparently, she’s learned to live with it.
“Whatever the negative reaction to that, it passes. Clinton couldn’t do that. ”
IMO, there is no response that Clinton could make, to any allegation, in any context, that would deflect her political enemies from pursuing any and every possible or even impossible hint of wrongdoing to the absolute bitter end.
It’s like they’ve contracted some kind of freaking political rabies.
People hate her. I don’t know why, they just do, It’s a freaking mania.
If she responds, she’s clearly being defensive. If she tries to blow it off, she’s hiding something. If she complains about harrassment, she’s being paranoid and a poor sport.
The bar for Clinton is insanely high, and there is nothing whatsoever that can do or say that will satisfy her critics.
It’s an obsession. Apparently, she’s learned to live with it.
“Whatever the negative reaction to that, it passes. Clinton couldn’t do that. ”
IMO, there is no response that Clinton could make, to any allegation, in any context, that would deflect her political enemies from pursuing any and every possible or even impossible hint of wrongdoing to the absolute bitter end.
It’s like they’ve contracted some kind of freaking political rabies.
People hate her. I don’t know why, they just do, It’s a freaking mania.
If she responds, she’s clearly being defensive. If she tries to blow it off, she’s hiding something. If she complains about harrassment, she’s being paranoid and a poor sport.
The bar for Clinton is insanely high, and there is nothing whatsoever that can do or say that will satisfy her critics.
It’s an obsession. Apparently, she’s learned to live with it.
“Imagine if it were public knowledge that the IRS was investigating Trump for outright tax fraud, and the issues involved were generally known.”
For the record, Trump is under active investigation for a number of reasons, including using funds from his non-profit foundation to settle personal lawsuits.
Which among other things is a violation of the tax code.
It’s perfectly well known.
Nobody gives a crap.
“Imagine if it were public knowledge that the IRS was investigating Trump for outright tax fraud, and the issues involved were generally known.”
For the record, Trump is under active investigation for a number of reasons, including using funds from his non-profit foundation to settle personal lawsuits.
Which among other things is a violation of the tax code.
It’s perfectly well known.
Nobody gives a crap.
“Imagine if it were public knowledge that the IRS was investigating Trump for outright tax fraud, and the issues involved were generally known.”
For the record, Trump is under active investigation for a number of reasons, including using funds from his non-profit foundation to settle personal lawsuits.
Which among other things is a violation of the tax code.
It’s perfectly well known.
Nobody gives a crap.
under active investigation for a number of reasons,
Can’t wait to find out what the Putin connection is. Obviously, it’s of some, but limited, interest to the news media. Not nearly as exciting as the nothingburger emails that the Putin people hacked.
under active investigation for a number of reasons,
Can’t wait to find out what the Putin connection is. Obviously, it’s of some, but limited, interest to the news media. Not nearly as exciting as the nothingburger emails that the Putin people hacked.
under active investigation for a number of reasons,
Can’t wait to find out what the Putin connection is. Obviously, it’s of some, but limited, interest to the news media. Not nearly as exciting as the nothingburger emails that the Putin people hacked.
People hate her. I don’t know why, they just do
It’s not like there’s a mystery here. When she got given a policy portfolio (health care) in the first Clinton administration, she became a threat. Not only in her own right, but symbolically. If she had succeeded, it would have been a thousand times worse. So she had to be stopped at all costs.
Of course, if she wins the Presidency, that’s an even bigger threat. And God forbid she should have a successful administration. “Great and frightening changes” doesn’t begin to describe how that is seen.
Granted it’s pathetic that so many people are threatened by the mere chance that she (or any other woman) might succeed. Or even just not fail spectacularly. But that doesn’t change the reality of how they see the world.
People hate her. I don’t know why, they just do
It’s not like there’s a mystery here. When she got given a policy portfolio (health care) in the first Clinton administration, she became a threat. Not only in her own right, but symbolically. If she had succeeded, it would have been a thousand times worse. So she had to be stopped at all costs.
Of course, if she wins the Presidency, that’s an even bigger threat. And God forbid she should have a successful administration. “Great and frightening changes” doesn’t begin to describe how that is seen.
Granted it’s pathetic that so many people are threatened by the mere chance that she (or any other woman) might succeed. Or even just not fail spectacularly. But that doesn’t change the reality of how they see the world.
People hate her. I don’t know why, they just do
It’s not like there’s a mystery here. When she got given a policy portfolio (health care) in the first Clinton administration, she became a threat. Not only in her own right, but symbolically. If she had succeeded, it would have been a thousand times worse. So she had to be stopped at all costs.
Of course, if she wins the Presidency, that’s an even bigger threat. And God forbid she should have a successful administration. “Great and frightening changes” doesn’t begin to describe how that is seen.
Granted it’s pathetic that so many people are threatened by the mere chance that she (or any other woman) might succeed. Or even just not fail spectacularly. But that doesn’t change the reality of how they see the world.
The crap that is going to come out about the behind the scenes of the Trump campaign after the election will be unbelievable. You can’t run a ship with that many rats and not have them eat each other once it’s clear the ship is irretrievably sinking. Comey has just delayed the cannibalism by a few days.
The crap that is going to come out about the behind the scenes of the Trump campaign after the election will be unbelievable. You can’t run a ship with that many rats and not have them eat each other once it’s clear the ship is irretrievably sinking. Comey has just delayed the cannibalism by a few days.
The crap that is going to come out about the behind the scenes of the Trump campaign after the election will be unbelievable. You can’t run a ship with that many rats and not have them eat each other once it’s clear the ship is irretrievably sinking. Comey has just delayed the cannibalism by a few days.
“Granted it’s pathetic that so many people are threatened by the mere chance that she (or any other woman) might succeed.”
Once again wj is blaming the fact that she is a woman for people not liking her. Just like you can’t not like Obama unless you’re a racist.
“Oh well, its obvious….” There are lots of reasons from her policies to her temperament to her basic lack of conscience to not like her. Not one of those has to do with the fact she is a woman. People don’t like her because she is a criminal and a liar. Just because lots of people don’t care that she is a criminal and a liar doesn’t change those facts. And before you start, she is a criminal who is a good enough liar to not yet get convicted.
I am threatened, by the predictable outcome of her election. My ACA just went up 125%, they don’t cover any of my doctors and no insurance company will talk to me unless I go through the exchange. So what’s the fix? Well f’cking single payer of course, the plan all along. They don’t just lie to get elected, they lie about anything they please, sometimes just by habit.
Everyone complains about Bush not having a plan for what to do after we took Iraq, lets talk about what the Democrats plan is now that the ACA is an unmitigated disaster crumbling under the weight of lies and mis set expectations.
Just what we need, a supporter of killing children days away from being born, but that’s not inconsistent with sending kids to die in wars for no purpose, but taking away anyone’s ability to defend themselves while expanding the nanny state and solidifying the dictatorial Presidency.
And none of those have anything to do with what a liar and failed public servant she is. I disliked her immensely and the last straw was when she sat in front of Congress and told them what she had done wasn’t worth her time to explain so everyone should just “move on”. Now I hate her. Her emails are just a reflection of the despicable person she is, confirming what everyone has said about her.
And not one of those has to do with what sex she is.
“Granted it’s pathetic that so many people are threatened by the mere chance that she (or any other woman) might succeed.”
Once again wj is blaming the fact that she is a woman for people not liking her. Just like you can’t not like Obama unless you’re a racist.
“Oh well, its obvious….” There are lots of reasons from her policies to her temperament to her basic lack of conscience to not like her. Not one of those has to do with the fact she is a woman. People don’t like her because she is a criminal and a liar. Just because lots of people don’t care that she is a criminal and a liar doesn’t change those facts. And before you start, she is a criminal who is a good enough liar to not yet get convicted.
I am threatened, by the predictable outcome of her election. My ACA just went up 125%, they don’t cover any of my doctors and no insurance company will talk to me unless I go through the exchange. So what’s the fix? Well f’cking single payer of course, the plan all along. They don’t just lie to get elected, they lie about anything they please, sometimes just by habit.
Everyone complains about Bush not having a plan for what to do after we took Iraq, lets talk about what the Democrats plan is now that the ACA is an unmitigated disaster crumbling under the weight of lies and mis set expectations.
Just what we need, a supporter of killing children days away from being born, but that’s not inconsistent with sending kids to die in wars for no purpose, but taking away anyone’s ability to defend themselves while expanding the nanny state and solidifying the dictatorial Presidency.
And none of those have anything to do with what a liar and failed public servant she is. I disliked her immensely and the last straw was when she sat in front of Congress and told them what she had done wasn’t worth her time to explain so everyone should just “move on”. Now I hate her. Her emails are just a reflection of the despicable person she is, confirming what everyone has said about her.
And not one of those has to do with what sex she is.
“Granted it’s pathetic that so many people are threatened by the mere chance that she (or any other woman) might succeed.”
Once again wj is blaming the fact that she is a woman for people not liking her. Just like you can’t not like Obama unless you’re a racist.
“Oh well, its obvious….” There are lots of reasons from her policies to her temperament to her basic lack of conscience to not like her. Not one of those has to do with the fact she is a woman. People don’t like her because she is a criminal and a liar. Just because lots of people don’t care that she is a criminal and a liar doesn’t change those facts. And before you start, she is a criminal who is a good enough liar to not yet get convicted.
I am threatened, by the predictable outcome of her election. My ACA just went up 125%, they don’t cover any of my doctors and no insurance company will talk to me unless I go through the exchange. So what’s the fix? Well f’cking single payer of course, the plan all along. They don’t just lie to get elected, they lie about anything they please, sometimes just by habit.
Everyone complains about Bush not having a plan for what to do after we took Iraq, lets talk about what the Democrats plan is now that the ACA is an unmitigated disaster crumbling under the weight of lies and mis set expectations.
Just what we need, a supporter of killing children days away from being born, but that’s not inconsistent with sending kids to die in wars for no purpose, but taking away anyone’s ability to defend themselves while expanding the nanny state and solidifying the dictatorial Presidency.
And none of those have anything to do with what a liar and failed public servant she is. I disliked her immensely and the last straw was when she sat in front of Congress and told them what she had done wasn’t worth her time to explain so everyone should just “move on”. Now I hate her. Her emails are just a reflection of the despicable person she is, confirming what everyone has said about her.
And not one of those has to do with what sex she is.
What I’d like to know is why Hillary’s instinct to keep her emails private is more “politically stupid” — as far as “low-information voters” are concerned — than He, Trump’s determination to keep his tax returns private.
This is a really dense question. Her instinct to keep her emails private was specifically against the law as an employee of ME. The government. We were paying her. She was hiding her emails from us, the people that employeed her. And then she lied to us and our elected representatives about them, and then erased them, and then lied about them again. IN fact, what gets lost in all this is they were subpoenaed as part of the Benghazi investigation, remember when she told us to “move on” as she was destroying evidence that had been subpoenaed?
Trumps tax returns were filed as a private citizen, not working for the government.
While we all would like to see them, there is no equivalency between those two things.
What I’d like to know is why Hillary’s instinct to keep her emails private is more “politically stupid” — as far as “low-information voters” are concerned — than He, Trump’s determination to keep his tax returns private.
This is a really dense question. Her instinct to keep her emails private was specifically against the law as an employee of ME. The government. We were paying her. She was hiding her emails from us, the people that employeed her. And then she lied to us and our elected representatives about them, and then erased them, and then lied about them again. IN fact, what gets lost in all this is they were subpoenaed as part of the Benghazi investigation, remember when she told us to “move on” as she was destroying evidence that had been subpoenaed?
Trumps tax returns were filed as a private citizen, not working for the government.
While we all would like to see them, there is no equivalency between those two things.
What I’d like to know is why Hillary’s instinct to keep her emails private is more “politically stupid” — as far as “low-information voters” are concerned — than He, Trump’s determination to keep his tax returns private.
This is a really dense question. Her instinct to keep her emails private was specifically against the law as an employee of ME. The government. We were paying her. She was hiding her emails from us, the people that employeed her. And then she lied to us and our elected representatives about them, and then erased them, and then lied about them again. IN fact, what gets lost in all this is they were subpoenaed as part of the Benghazi investigation, remember when she told us to “move on” as she was destroying evidence that had been subpoenaed?
Trumps tax returns were filed as a private citizen, not working for the government.
While we all would like to see them, there is no equivalency between those two things.
Her instinct to keep her emails private was specifically against the law as an employee of ME.
She disclosed emails that she sent as Secretary of State. She deleted personal emails. How many people do you know who have made public tens of thousands of emails? Have you made those public to your coworkers? Did you make public all of your work emails? That is not the usual thing, even though we all knot that our work emails aren’t “private”. This is simply not done.
We all know what happened, and what the “scandal” was, but there’s no Secretary of State, no federal government official in the prior administration, or in any administration, who has been as fully transparent, and as thoroughly scrutinized as Hillary Clinton. But it’s something for you to beat the drum on, Marty, so most people will learn to ignore you.
Her instinct to keep her emails private was specifically against the law as an employee of ME.
She disclosed emails that she sent as Secretary of State. She deleted personal emails. How many people do you know who have made public tens of thousands of emails? Have you made those public to your coworkers? Did you make public all of your work emails? That is not the usual thing, even though we all knot that our work emails aren’t “private”. This is simply not done.
We all know what happened, and what the “scandal” was, but there’s no Secretary of State, no federal government official in the prior administration, or in any administration, who has been as fully transparent, and as thoroughly scrutinized as Hillary Clinton. But it’s something for you to beat the drum on, Marty, so most people will learn to ignore you.
Her instinct to keep her emails private was specifically against the law as an employee of ME.
She disclosed emails that she sent as Secretary of State. She deleted personal emails. How many people do you know who have made public tens of thousands of emails? Have you made those public to your coworkers? Did you make public all of your work emails? That is not the usual thing, even though we all knot that our work emails aren’t “private”. This is simply not done.
We all know what happened, and what the “scandal” was, but there’s no Secretary of State, no federal government official in the prior administration, or in any administration, who has been as fully transparent, and as thoroughly scrutinized as Hillary Clinton. But it’s something for you to beat the drum on, Marty, so most people will learn to ignore you.
Once again wj is blaming the fact that she is a woman for people not liking her.
Not quite. You can dislike her for lots of reasons, including just having policy differences. But that’s not what we are talking about.
As with Obama, we are talking about venomous hatred out of all proportion to anything they have done or said. Proclaimed hatred for them over policy positions which, no matter how strongly opposed, don’t get the same kind of demonization for a white man who holds them.
Accusations of evil intent for every case of policy differences — not just arguments that they are wrong, but that they actively see to harm the nation. Again, way beyond what is said of the (numerous) politicians holding the same positions, but are neither black nor female.
Nobody here thinks disagreeing with Clinton is inherently sexist. But hatred? Better have examples of the same attitude towards men who hold the same positions if you want to avoid that kind of accusation.
Once again wj is blaming the fact that she is a woman for people not liking her.
Not quite. You can dislike her for lots of reasons, including just having policy differences. But that’s not what we are talking about.
As with Obama, we are talking about venomous hatred out of all proportion to anything they have done or said. Proclaimed hatred for them over policy positions which, no matter how strongly opposed, don’t get the same kind of demonization for a white man who holds them.
Accusations of evil intent for every case of policy differences — not just arguments that they are wrong, but that they actively see to harm the nation. Again, way beyond what is said of the (numerous) politicians holding the same positions, but are neither black nor female.
Nobody here thinks disagreeing with Clinton is inherently sexist. But hatred? Better have examples of the same attitude towards men who hold the same positions if you want to avoid that kind of accusation.
Once again wj is blaming the fact that she is a woman for people not liking her.
Not quite. You can dislike her for lots of reasons, including just having policy differences. But that’s not what we are talking about.
As with Obama, we are talking about venomous hatred out of all proportion to anything they have done or said. Proclaimed hatred for them over policy positions which, no matter how strongly opposed, don’t get the same kind of demonization for a white man who holds them.
Accusations of evil intent for every case of policy differences — not just arguments that they are wrong, but that they actively see to harm the nation. Again, way beyond what is said of the (numerous) politicians holding the same positions, but are neither black nor female.
Nobody here thinks disagreeing with Clinton is inherently sexist. But hatred? Better have examples of the same attitude towards men who hold the same positions if you want to avoid that kind of accusation.
Emails? Criminals? Liars?
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html
Emails? Criminals? Liars?
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html
Emails? Criminals? Liars?
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html
Ouch
In recent weeks, the mood at Trump Tower has veered between despair and denial—with a hit of resurgent glee when the news broke that the FBI was looking into more of Clinton’s emails. When I asked one senior Trump adviser to describe the scene inside, he responded: “Think of the bunker right before Hitler killed himself. Donald’s in denial. They’re all in denial.” (As Times columnist Ross Douthat put it, in a tweet, “In Trumpworld as Hitler’s Bunker terms,” the FBI investigation is “like when Goebbels thought FDR’s death would save the Nazi regime.”)
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-campaign-final-days.html?mid=fb-share-di
Ouch
In recent weeks, the mood at Trump Tower has veered between despair and denial—with a hit of resurgent glee when the news broke that the FBI was looking into more of Clinton’s emails. When I asked one senior Trump adviser to describe the scene inside, he responded: “Think of the bunker right before Hitler killed himself. Donald’s in denial. They’re all in denial.” (As Times columnist Ross Douthat put it, in a tweet, “In Trumpworld as Hitler’s Bunker terms,” the FBI investigation is “like when Goebbels thought FDR’s death would save the Nazi regime.”)
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-campaign-final-days.html?mid=fb-share-di
Ouch
In recent weeks, the mood at Trump Tower has veered between despair and denial—with a hit of resurgent glee when the news broke that the FBI was looking into more of Clinton’s emails. When I asked one senior Trump adviser to describe the scene inside, he responded: “Think of the bunker right before Hitler killed himself. Donald’s in denial. They’re all in denial.” (As Times columnist Ross Douthat put it, in a tweet, “In Trumpworld as Hitler’s Bunker terms,” the FBI investigation is “like when Goebbels thought FDR’s death would save the Nazi regime.”)
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/10/trump-campaign-final-days.html?mid=fb-share-di
To wj’s point:
http://deadspin.com/youd-think-scott-walker-could-get-better-seats-1788373342
To wj’s point:
http://deadspin.com/youd-think-scott-walker-could-get-better-seats-1788373342
To wj’s point:
http://deadspin.com/youd-think-scott-walker-could-get-better-seats-1788373342
They don’t even have a warrant to look at these emails?
Jesus fnckng Christ.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html
They don’t even have a warrant to look at these emails?
Jesus fnckng Christ.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html
They don’t even have a warrant to look at these emails?
Jesus fnckng Christ.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html
I love the 22 million emails deleted from a perfectly legal mail server comparisons. But more, I love the “well Karl Rove did it” defense. I agree that she has the ethics of Karl Rove. I would never vote for him either.
I love the 22 million emails deleted from a perfectly legal mail server comparisons. But more, I love the “well Karl Rove did it” defense. I agree that she has the ethics of Karl Rove. I would never vote for him either.
I love the 22 million emails deleted from a perfectly legal mail server comparisons. But more, I love the “well Karl Rove did it” defense. I agree that she has the ethics of Karl Rove. I would never vote for him either.
Actually, there’s no evidence that the RNC server under Bush was legal, and statements by staffers suggest it wasn’t (as in, anything with a “political flavor” went through the private server, even if it was official business). In any case, however, since the Bush executive didn’t bother with any forensics, we have only the accused party’s assurance that nothing illegal was done.
I do agree that “no more slimy than Rove” is a bizarre but amusing defensive gambit.
Actually, there’s no evidence that the RNC server under Bush was legal, and statements by staffers suggest it wasn’t (as in, anything with a “political flavor” went through the private server, even if it was official business). In any case, however, since the Bush executive didn’t bother with any forensics, we have only the accused party’s assurance that nothing illegal was done.
I do agree that “no more slimy than Rove” is a bizarre but amusing defensive gambit.
Actually, there’s no evidence that the RNC server under Bush was legal, and statements by staffers suggest it wasn’t (as in, anything with a “political flavor” went through the private server, even if it was official business). In any case, however, since the Bush executive didn’t bother with any forensics, we have only the accused party’s assurance that nothing illegal was done.
I do agree that “no more slimy than Rove” is a bizarre but amusing defensive gambit.
“I love the 22 million emails deleted from a perfectly legal mail server comparisons”
perfectly legal, but not for the purposes it was used for.
and rove was not the only one using it.
just to keep the discussion in the realm of fact.
i don’t care if you love clinton, hate clinton, whatever. vote for whoever you want.
the obsessive ankle-biting inquisition of HRC is IMO borderline deranged. the standard that she is expected to meet is simply not applied to any other national figure that i can think of, now or ever.
it’s a mania.
“I love the 22 million emails deleted from a perfectly legal mail server comparisons”
perfectly legal, but not for the purposes it was used for.
and rove was not the only one using it.
just to keep the discussion in the realm of fact.
i don’t care if you love clinton, hate clinton, whatever. vote for whoever you want.
the obsessive ankle-biting inquisition of HRC is IMO borderline deranged. the standard that she is expected to meet is simply not applied to any other national figure that i can think of, now or ever.
it’s a mania.
“I love the 22 million emails deleted from a perfectly legal mail server comparisons”
perfectly legal, but not for the purposes it was used for.
and rove was not the only one using it.
just to keep the discussion in the realm of fact.
i don’t care if you love clinton, hate clinton, whatever. vote for whoever you want.
the obsessive ankle-biting inquisition of HRC is IMO borderline deranged. the standard that she is expected to meet is simply not applied to any other national figure that i can think of, now or ever.
it’s a mania.
the obsessive ankle-biting inquisition of HRC is IMO borderline deranged.
But how else are they going to “lock her up”? Well, I guess they could just do it.
the obsessive ankle-biting inquisition of HRC is IMO borderline deranged.
But how else are they going to “lock her up”? Well, I guess they could just do it.
the obsessive ankle-biting inquisition of HRC is IMO borderline deranged.
But how else are they going to “lock her up”? Well, I guess they could just do it.
It’s a mania because no other public figure would still be in the running for President after all that she’s done. No. one.else.
There is a double standard, but the only one we expect her to meet is the one everybody else has to meet. She believes, rightly so far, she is immune from consequences.
Lots of people will hate her for that.
It’s a mania because no other public figure would still be in the running for President after all that she’s done. No. one.else.
There is a double standard, but the only one we expect her to meet is the one everybody else has to meet. She believes, rightly so far, she is immune from consequences.
Lots of people will hate her for that.
It’s a mania because no other public figure would still be in the running for President after all that she’s done. No. one.else.
There is a double standard, but the only one we expect her to meet is the one everybody else has to meet. She believes, rightly so far, she is immune from consequences.
Lots of people will hate her for that.
It’s the differing standard that is maddening, and the mania as Russell put it that seems to apply to the Clintons. If I had to give a reason it’s because they interrupted what was supposed to be a glorious GOP perpetual occupation of the White House supported by the warm glow of St. Ronnie the Fantasist and that the press core had gotten so cozy/lazy covering the same that they were annoyed with the change and having to trudge off to Arkansas to find out who these interlopers were and thus happy to repeat any tale told about them.
Think David Broder’s (IIRC) infamous comment about “this is not their house” and Peggy Noonan on “irresponsible not not speculate!” And murdering Vince Foster!!!
Although I saw a tweet yesterday that said “Anthony Weiner is living proof that the Clinton’s do not have people murdered.” Which I thought was amusing.
It’s the differing standard that is maddening, and the mania as Russell put it that seems to apply to the Clintons. If I had to give a reason it’s because they interrupted what was supposed to be a glorious GOP perpetual occupation of the White House supported by the warm glow of St. Ronnie the Fantasist and that the press core had gotten so cozy/lazy covering the same that they were annoyed with the change and having to trudge off to Arkansas to find out who these interlopers were and thus happy to repeat any tale told about them.
Think David Broder’s (IIRC) infamous comment about “this is not their house” and Peggy Noonan on “irresponsible not not speculate!” And murdering Vince Foster!!!
Although I saw a tweet yesterday that said “Anthony Weiner is living proof that the Clinton’s do not have people murdered.” Which I thought was amusing.
It’s the differing standard that is maddening, and the mania as Russell put it that seems to apply to the Clintons. If I had to give a reason it’s because they interrupted what was supposed to be a glorious GOP perpetual occupation of the White House supported by the warm glow of St. Ronnie the Fantasist and that the press core had gotten so cozy/lazy covering the same that they were annoyed with the change and having to trudge off to Arkansas to find out who these interlopers were and thus happy to repeat any tale told about them.
Think David Broder’s (IIRC) infamous comment about “this is not their house” and Peggy Noonan on “irresponsible not not speculate!” And murdering Vince Foster!!!
Although I saw a tweet yesterday that said “Anthony Weiner is living proof that the Clinton’s do not have people murdered.” Which I thought was amusing.
“It’s a mania because no other public figure would still be in the running for President after all that she’s done. No. one.else.”
George W. Bush won a second term. Nixon too.
“It’s a mania because no other public figure would still be in the running for President after all that she’s done. No. one.else.”
George W. Bush won a second term. Nixon too.
“It’s a mania because no other public figure would still be in the running for President after all that she’s done. No. one.else.”
George W. Bush won a second term. Nixon too.
And Poppy “not in the loop” Bush won after being Reagan’s VPOTUS.
If we want to expand this to any federal office, the list is going to be really long.
Huge, even.
Nobody is held to the standard that the Clintons are. Especially HRC.
And Poppy “not in the loop” Bush won after being Reagan’s VPOTUS.
If we want to expand this to any federal office, the list is going to be really long.
Huge, even.
Nobody is held to the standard that the Clintons are. Especially HRC.
And Poppy “not in the loop” Bush won after being Reagan’s VPOTUS.
If we want to expand this to any federal office, the list is going to be really long.
Huge, even.
Nobody is held to the standard that the Clintons are. Especially HRC.
None of them are close. Not one. Bush 2 certainly wasn’t under investigation by the FBI. Nixon wasn’t either when reelected but of course, RESIGNED, in shame and needed a pardon to stay out of jail. Unless say, Vince Foster, she can get a pardon for the other stuff, just not the Presidency.
Nobody gets away with the crap they do, especially HRC. I hate her more every time someone says she is SOOOO unfairly treated.
What bs.
None of them are close. Not one. Bush 2 certainly wasn’t under investigation by the FBI. Nixon wasn’t either when reelected but of course, RESIGNED, in shame and needed a pardon to stay out of jail. Unless say, Vince Foster, she can get a pardon for the other stuff, just not the Presidency.
Nobody gets away with the crap they do, especially HRC. I hate her more every time someone says she is SOOOO unfairly treated.
What bs.
None of them are close. Not one. Bush 2 certainly wasn’t under investigation by the FBI. Nixon wasn’t either when reelected but of course, RESIGNED, in shame and needed a pardon to stay out of jail. Unless say, Vince Foster, she can get a pardon for the other stuff, just not the Presidency.
Nobody gets away with the crap they do, especially HRC. I hate her more every time someone says she is SOOOO unfairly treated.
What bs.
You said “for what she’s done”. Bush 2 and Nixon were far far far worse by that standard. They make Hillary Clinton look like a saint.
You said “for what she’s done”. Bush 2 and Nixon were far far far worse by that standard. They make Hillary Clinton look like a saint.
You said “for what she’s done”. Bush 2 and Nixon were far far far worse by that standard. They make Hillary Clinton look like a saint.
Nobody gets away with the crap they do, especially HRC. I hate her more every time someone says she is SOOOO unfairly treated.
I love the way the right wing conducts continuous investigations, then claims, when they don’t find anything that “she got away with it”. They are unwilling, ever, to concede that she is not a villain. It’s called fascism, Marty.
Nobody gets away with the crap they do, especially HRC. I hate her more every time someone says she is SOOOO unfairly treated.
I love the way the right wing conducts continuous investigations, then claims, when they don’t find anything that “she got away with it”. They are unwilling, ever, to concede that she is not a villain. It’s called fascism, Marty.
Nobody gets away with the crap they do, especially HRC. I hate her more every time someone says she is SOOOO unfairly treated.
I love the way the right wing conducts continuous investigations, then claims, when they don’t find anything that “she got away with it”. They are unwilling, ever, to concede that she is not a villain. It’s called fascism, Marty.
it’s a mania.
a religion, even. the faithful don’t need proof; they have a rich and ever-growing mythology to immerse themselves in, the constant comfort of confirmation bias, and of course faith. but what can we expect: they’ve been raised to believe it.
oh sure, the people who produce the sacred texts do it for-profit. and the religion inspires nothing but hatred and cynicism in its followers; there will be no great works of art from its followers: no Sistine Chapel, no Handel’s Messiah, not even an Amazing Grace. what a waste of energy.
it’s a mania.
a religion, even. the faithful don’t need proof; they have a rich and ever-growing mythology to immerse themselves in, the constant comfort of confirmation bias, and of course faith. but what can we expect: they’ve been raised to believe it.
oh sure, the people who produce the sacred texts do it for-profit. and the religion inspires nothing but hatred and cynicism in its followers; there will be no great works of art from its followers: no Sistine Chapel, no Handel’s Messiah, not even an Amazing Grace. what a waste of energy.
it’s a mania.
a religion, even. the faithful don’t need proof; they have a rich and ever-growing mythology to immerse themselves in, the constant comfort of confirmation bias, and of course faith. but what can we expect: they’ve been raised to believe it.
oh sure, the people who produce the sacred texts do it for-profit. and the religion inspires nothing but hatred and cynicism in its followers; there will be no great works of art from its followers: no Sistine Chapel, no Handel’s Messiah, not even an Amazing Grace. what a waste of energy.
Rather than reply to Marty, we should just play bingo.
Everyone make a 5×5 grid. Middle box is can be
“HRC is worse than Bush and Nixon combined!”,
so everyone gets to mark that off. Then write the numbers 1 to 24 at random in the grid. Then use the list to mark off your boxes whenever Marty hits one of them.
1. Benghazi!
2. Whitewater!
3. Emails!
4. Blacks vote for Clinton because they are bribed by all that welfare
5. Don’t connect me with Trump!
6. Bernie wuz robbed by HRC
7. She was never under fire in Bosnia
8. anything about Chelsea
9 sex toys on the white house christmas tree
10. Anti feminism
11. She’s dissed libertarians!
12. Monica!
13. Hillary is spiteful
14. Hillary won’t negotiate with Republicans!
15. No one is voting for Hillary, everyone is voting against Trump
16. She will stab [xxx] in the back!
17. HRC made Trump become misogynist
18. Something Bill did
19. the woman card
20. hiding stage 13 cancer
The last 4 numbers are open for suggestions! I shouldn’t have all the fun!
Rather than reply to Marty, we should just play bingo.
Everyone make a 5×5 grid. Middle box is can be
“HRC is worse than Bush and Nixon combined!”,
so everyone gets to mark that off. Then write the numbers 1 to 24 at random in the grid. Then use the list to mark off your boxes whenever Marty hits one of them.
1. Benghazi!
2. Whitewater!
3. Emails!
4. Blacks vote for Clinton because they are bribed by all that welfare
5. Don’t connect me with Trump!
6. Bernie wuz robbed by HRC
7. She was never under fire in Bosnia
8. anything about Chelsea
9 sex toys on the white house christmas tree
10. Anti feminism
11. She’s dissed libertarians!
12. Monica!
13. Hillary is spiteful
14. Hillary won’t negotiate with Republicans!
15. No one is voting for Hillary, everyone is voting against Trump
16. She will stab [xxx] in the back!
17. HRC made Trump become misogynist
18. Something Bill did
19. the woman card
20. hiding stage 13 cancer
The last 4 numbers are open for suggestions! I shouldn’t have all the fun!
Rather than reply to Marty, we should just play bingo.
Everyone make a 5×5 grid. Middle box is can be
“HRC is worse than Bush and Nixon combined!”,
so everyone gets to mark that off. Then write the numbers 1 to 24 at random in the grid. Then use the list to mark off your boxes whenever Marty hits one of them.
1. Benghazi!
2. Whitewater!
3. Emails!
4. Blacks vote for Clinton because they are bribed by all that welfare
5. Don’t connect me with Trump!
6. Bernie wuz robbed by HRC
7. She was never under fire in Bosnia
8. anything about Chelsea
9 sex toys on the white house christmas tree
10. Anti feminism
11. She’s dissed libertarians!
12. Monica!
13. Hillary is spiteful
14. Hillary won’t negotiate with Republicans!
15. No one is voting for Hillary, everyone is voting against Trump
16. She will stab [xxx] in the back!
17. HRC made Trump become misogynist
18. Something Bill did
19. the woman card
20. hiding stage 13 cancer
The last 4 numbers are open for suggestions! I shouldn’t have all the fun!
21, 22, 23, & 24: baby killer
Marty lives in a mental universe in which 9th-month abortions of perfectly healthy fetuses are as commonplace as cops shooting black guys and even day-after abortions amount to damning innocent little souls to Heaven.
–TP
21, 22, 23, & 24: baby killer
Marty lives in a mental universe in which 9th-month abortions of perfectly healthy fetuses are as commonplace as cops shooting black guys and even day-after abortions amount to damning innocent little souls to Heaven.
–TP
21, 22, 23, & 24: baby killer
Marty lives in a mental universe in which 9th-month abortions of perfectly healthy fetuses are as commonplace as cops shooting black guys and even day-after abortions amount to damning innocent little souls to Heaven.
–TP
I live in a world where making a law against killing perfectly healthy human beings is not a problem for anyone. Or shouldn’t be.
I live in a world where making a law against killing perfectly healthy human beings is not a problem for anyone. Or shouldn’t be.
I live in a world where making a law against killing perfectly healthy human beings is not a problem for anyone. Or shouldn’t be.
Russell,
For the record, Trump is under active investigation for a number of reasons, including using funds from his non-profit foundation to settle personal lawsuits.
Which among other things is a violation of the tax code.
It’s perfectly well known.
Nobody gives a crap.
Is Trump actually under active investigation for these things? At least some of them were settled by payment of a fine or something, I thought.
The one thing that ought to be investigated is the payment to Bondi, but I’m not aware there is any activity there.
Russell,
For the record, Trump is under active investigation for a number of reasons, including using funds from his non-profit foundation to settle personal lawsuits.
Which among other things is a violation of the tax code.
It’s perfectly well known.
Nobody gives a crap.
Is Trump actually under active investigation for these things? At least some of them were settled by payment of a fine or something, I thought.
The one thing that ought to be investigated is the payment to Bondi, but I’m not aware there is any activity there.
Russell,
For the record, Trump is under active investigation for a number of reasons, including using funds from his non-profit foundation to settle personal lawsuits.
Which among other things is a violation of the tax code.
It’s perfectly well known.
Nobody gives a crap.
Is Trump actually under active investigation for these things? At least some of them were settled by payment of a fine or something, I thought.
The one thing that ought to be investigated is the payment to Bondi, but I’m not aware there is any activity there.
Is Trump actually under active investigation for these things?
Trump U is under investigation.
his foundation is, also.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-foundation-investigation/story?id=42081467
Is Trump actually under active investigation for these things?
Trump U is under investigation.
his foundation is, also.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-foundation-investigation/story?id=42081467
Is Trump actually under active investigation for these things?
Trump U is under investigation.
his foundation is, also.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-foundation-investigation/story?id=42081467
Rape case.
Fraud case.
Google is your friend.
Rape case.
Fraud case.
Google is your friend.
Rape case.
Fraud case.
Google is your friend.
Marty,
sign this.
Marty,
sign this.
Marty,
sign this.
Already signed
Already signed
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I sense a disturbance in the Force.
I sense a disturbance in the Force.
I sense a disturbance in the Force.
From bobbyp’s link:
What a great argument for letting only naturalized citizens vote:)
We are all immigrants one way or t’other. As a port-of-entry immigrant, I have passed a test, sworn an oath, and have a certificate to prove it. More than most maternity-ward immigrants can say:)
–TP
From bobbyp’s link:
What a great argument for letting only naturalized citizens vote:)
We are all immigrants one way or t’other. As a port-of-entry immigrant, I have passed a test, sworn an oath, and have a certificate to prove it. More than most maternity-ward immigrants can say:)
–TP
From bobbyp’s link:
What a great argument for letting only naturalized citizens vote:)
We are all immigrants one way or t’other. As a port-of-entry immigrant, I have passed a test, sworn an oath, and have a certificate to prove it. More than most maternity-ward immigrants can say:)
–TP
as has everyone who graduated from a NYS high school, i have passed several years’ worth of tests.
the problem is remembering all that stuff years later!
as has everyone who graduated from a NYS high school, i have passed several years’ worth of tests.
the problem is remembering all that stuff years later!
as has everyone who graduated from a NYS high school, i have passed several years’ worth of tests.
the problem is remembering all that stuff years later!
I recall being told, in my high school civics class, that what we were learning was what immigrants learned in their naturalization classes. And our final exam was equivalent to the citizenship test. But it’s been so long, I wasn’t sure if high school seniors even had a civics class any more.
I recall being told, in my high school civics class, that what we were learning was what immigrants learned in their naturalization classes. And our final exam was equivalent to the citizenship test. But it’s been so long, I wasn’t sure if high school seniors even had a civics class any more.
I recall being told, in my high school civics class, that what we were learning was what immigrants learned in their naturalization classes. And our final exam was equivalent to the citizenship test. But it’s been so long, I wasn’t sure if high school seniors even had a civics class any more.
…abortions…damning innocent little souls to Heaven.
That’s heretical thought. The aborted, being unbaptized, go straight to Hell. Catholics may have deviated from that the last few years (against protests from traditional dogmatists), protestant orthodoxy has not (mainstreamers are just to cowardly to discuss it these days too openly).
It’s one of the fundamental religious arguments against abortion since the days of St.Augustine who came up with this abominable idea in the first place.
Reading his Confessiones I get the impression that the guy simply hated infants and it was his spiritual revenge against their annyoing crying to declare them hellfodder.
…abortions…damning innocent little souls to Heaven.
That’s heretical thought. The aborted, being unbaptized, go straight to Hell. Catholics may have deviated from that the last few years (against protests from traditional dogmatists), protestant orthodoxy has not (mainstreamers are just to cowardly to discuss it these days too openly).
It’s one of the fundamental religious arguments against abortion since the days of St.Augustine who came up with this abominable idea in the first place.
Reading his Confessiones I get the impression that the guy simply hated infants and it was his spiritual revenge against their annyoing crying to declare them hellfodder.
…abortions…damning innocent little souls to Heaven.
That’s heretical thought. The aborted, being unbaptized, go straight to Hell. Catholics may have deviated from that the last few years (against protests from traditional dogmatists), protestant orthodoxy has not (mainstreamers are just to cowardly to discuss it these days too openly).
It’s one of the fundamental religious arguments against abortion since the days of St.Augustine who came up with this abominable idea in the first place.
Reading his Confessiones I get the impression that the guy simply hated infants and it was his spiritual revenge against their annyoing crying to declare them hellfodder.
Sure, literacy test.
You have to prove that you can understand Navaho. Sounds fair to me.
Hey, how about we apply the test to LEGISLATORS and GOVERNORS first, just to see how it works out?
Sure, literacy test.
You have to prove that you can understand Navaho. Sounds fair to me.
Hey, how about we apply the test to LEGISLATORS and GOVERNORS first, just to see how it works out?
Sure, literacy test.
You have to prove that you can understand Navaho. Sounds fair to me.
Hey, how about we apply the test to LEGISLATORS and GOVERNORS first, just to see how it works out?
But, but . . . so many Congressmen would fail!** Think what that would do to confidence in our institutions.
** OK, unless they get to design the test and decide what the answers should be. Which they would almost certainly insist on, for obvious reasons.
But, but . . . so many Congressmen would fail!** Think what that would do to confidence in our institutions.
** OK, unless they get to design the test and decide what the answers should be. Which they would almost certainly insist on, for obvious reasons.
But, but . . . so many Congressmen would fail!** Think what that would do to confidence in our institutions.
** OK, unless they get to design the test and decide what the answers should be. Which they would almost certainly insist on, for obvious reasons.
I like lj’s grid game. We know from past discussions that Marty thinks HRC has had a decades long “ongoing criminal career” (his actual words, if I remember correctly), but I love the detailed headings. However, I’m finding very few reasons to be cheerful because, in no particular order, let alone of global importance:
1. My London flat is apparently suddenly overrun with mice
2. I’m having a small operation to unblock my tearducts on Tuesday, and
3. Donald Trump might end up being President because of Comey’s astonishing intervention.
And we thought Brexit was bad.
I like lj’s grid game. We know from past discussions that Marty thinks HRC has had a decades long “ongoing criminal career” (his actual words, if I remember correctly), but I love the detailed headings. However, I’m finding very few reasons to be cheerful because, in no particular order, let alone of global importance:
1. My London flat is apparently suddenly overrun with mice
2. I’m having a small operation to unblock my tearducts on Tuesday, and
3. Donald Trump might end up being President because of Comey’s astonishing intervention.
And we thought Brexit was bad.
I like lj’s grid game. We know from past discussions that Marty thinks HRC has had a decades long “ongoing criminal career” (his actual words, if I remember correctly), but I love the detailed headings. However, I’m finding very few reasons to be cheerful because, in no particular order, let alone of global importance:
1. My London flat is apparently suddenly overrun with mice
2. I’m having a small operation to unblock my tearducts on Tuesday, and
3. Donald Trump might end up being President because of Comey’s astonishing intervention.
And we thought Brexit was bad.
“And we thought Brexit was bad.”
Better get those tearducts working! They might be needed.
The only bright spot of a Trump victory would hearing Hillary sing “Don’t Cry For Me, Civilization”.
We’ll cry, anyway.
“And we thought Brexit was bad.”
Better get those tearducts working! They might be needed.
The only bright spot of a Trump victory would hearing Hillary sing “Don’t Cry For Me, Civilization”.
We’ll cry, anyway.
“And we thought Brexit was bad.”
Better get those tearducts working! They might be needed.
The only bright spot of a Trump victory would hearing Hillary sing “Don’t Cry For Me, Civilization”.
We’ll cry, anyway.
GftNC,
Are your travails #2 and 3 related in some way?
Here’s hoping your operation goes well but that your tears prove unnecessary!
–TP
GftNC,
Are your travails #2 and 3 related in some way?
Here’s hoping your operation goes well but that your tears prove unnecessary!
–TP
GftNC,
Are your travails #2 and 3 related in some way?
Here’s hoping your operation goes well but that your tears prove unnecessary!
–TP
I keep forgetting, this comment is ACTUALLY RELEVANT to the post title:
“Of COURSE schools are closing for election day because of terrorist threats. They’ve gotten increasingly twitchy about clowns, and there’s a CLOWN on the ballot!”
I, for one, look forward to the designation of the Clown College as a “terrorist training camp”.
I keep forgetting, this comment is ACTUALLY RELEVANT to the post title:
“Of COURSE schools are closing for election day because of terrorist threats. They’ve gotten increasingly twitchy about clowns, and there’s a CLOWN on the ballot!”
I, for one, look forward to the designation of the Clown College as a “terrorist training camp”.
I keep forgetting, this comment is ACTUALLY RELEVANT to the post title:
“Of COURSE schools are closing for election day because of terrorist threats. They’ve gotten increasingly twitchy about clowns, and there’s a CLOWN on the ballot!”
I, for one, look forward to the designation of the Clown College as a “terrorist training camp”.
Lower tear ducts which don’t let moisture drain away mean liquid (as opposed to actual crying tears) floods down my face at unpredictable times, making driving on motorways hazardous. Also, I may need to cry a lot if Trump wins, obvs.
But mice, people, mice! And I don’t live out in the great beyond, like Slarti and Marty and cleek. God knows where they’re coming from, or indeed where they’re going to, but apparently they’re partying like there’s no tomorrow (and for them, maybe there isn’t). We’re heading down to London (for the op) laden with humane traps, non-humane traps, poison (Mr GftNC’s non- sentimental solution) and fruit-and-nut chocolate with which to bait the traps. Any expertise with regard to rodent removal/termination would be much appreciated….
Lower tear ducts which don’t let moisture drain away mean liquid (as opposed to actual crying tears) floods down my face at unpredictable times, making driving on motorways hazardous. Also, I may need to cry a lot if Trump wins, obvs.
But mice, people, mice! And I don’t live out in the great beyond, like Slarti and Marty and cleek. God knows where they’re coming from, or indeed where they’re going to, but apparently they’re partying like there’s no tomorrow (and for them, maybe there isn’t). We’re heading down to London (for the op) laden with humane traps, non-humane traps, poison (Mr GftNC’s non- sentimental solution) and fruit-and-nut chocolate with which to bait the traps. Any expertise with regard to rodent removal/termination would be much appreciated….
Lower tear ducts which don’t let moisture drain away mean liquid (as opposed to actual crying tears) floods down my face at unpredictable times, making driving on motorways hazardous. Also, I may need to cry a lot if Trump wins, obvs.
But mice, people, mice! And I don’t live out in the great beyond, like Slarti and Marty and cleek. God knows where they’re coming from, or indeed where they’re going to, but apparently they’re partying like there’s no tomorrow (and for them, maybe there isn’t). We’re heading down to London (for the op) laden with humane traps, non-humane traps, poison (Mr GftNC’s non- sentimental solution) and fruit-and-nut chocolate with which to bait the traps. Any expertise with regard to rodent removal/termination would be much appreciated….
It’s hard to believe that Comey’s decision is even more indefensible today than yesterday but it is.
It’s hard to believe that Comey’s decision is even more indefensible today than yesterday but it is.
It’s hard to believe that Comey’s decision is even more indefensible today than yesterday but it is.
Any expertise with regard to rodent removal/termination would be much appreciated….
A female cat (spayed, of course).
Any expertise with regard to rodent removal/termination would be much appreciated….
A female cat (spayed, of course).
Any expertise with regard to rodent removal/termination would be much appreciated….
A female cat (spayed, of course).
Yeah, if only. Problem is almost blind 97 year-old mother who lives in flat, hates cats and has not been informed about mice in case she freaks out.
Yeah, if only. Problem is almost blind 97 year-old mother who lives in flat, hates cats and has not been informed about mice in case she freaks out.
Yeah, if only. Problem is almost blind 97 year-old mother who lives in flat, hates cats and has not been informed about mice in case she freaks out.
GftNC: I bait mouse traps with a bit of cheese smeared with a bit of peanut butter. I have the impression that peanut butter isn’t all that popular over there, but it does seem to help attract the critters.
I live in a very tightly built 20-year-old building, and I’ve never had a mouse in my apartment as such, but every now and then I get a little incursion into the attic. I’ll catch 2 or 3 and that always seems to be the end of it for the time being (despite people saying that if you have 2 you have 50…doesn’t seem to be true in this case). Once I found a dead mouse in a trap (cheese, peanut butter) that had been sitting in the attic for a couple of years since the previous incursion.
Good luck with the op and the mice as well!
GftNC: I bait mouse traps with a bit of cheese smeared with a bit of peanut butter. I have the impression that peanut butter isn’t all that popular over there, but it does seem to help attract the critters.
I live in a very tightly built 20-year-old building, and I’ve never had a mouse in my apartment as such, but every now and then I get a little incursion into the attic. I’ll catch 2 or 3 and that always seems to be the end of it for the time being (despite people saying that if you have 2 you have 50…doesn’t seem to be true in this case). Once I found a dead mouse in a trap (cheese, peanut butter) that had been sitting in the attic for a couple of years since the previous incursion.
Good luck with the op and the mice as well!
GftNC: I bait mouse traps with a bit of cheese smeared with a bit of peanut butter. I have the impression that peanut butter isn’t all that popular over there, but it does seem to help attract the critters.
I live in a very tightly built 20-year-old building, and I’ve never had a mouse in my apartment as such, but every now and then I get a little incursion into the attic. I’ll catch 2 or 3 and that always seems to be the end of it for the time being (despite people saying that if you have 2 you have 50…doesn’t seem to be true in this case). Once I found a dead mouse in a trap (cheese, peanut butter) that had been sitting in the attic for a couple of years since the previous incursion.
Good luck with the op and the mice as well!
To clarify, the baited trap had been sitting in the attic for two years, untriggered. Then a mouse came along and still thought the bait might be yummy…..
To clarify, the baited trap had been sitting in the attic for two years, untriggered. Then a mouse came along and still thought the bait might be yummy…..
To clarify, the baited trap had been sitting in the attic for two years, untriggered. Then a mouse came along and still thought the bait might be yummy…..
Thanks, JanieM, on both counts. We do have peanut butter, so that might work. Will report back…
Thanks, JanieM, on both counts. We do have peanut butter, so that might work. Will report back…
Thanks, JanieM, on both counts. We do have peanut butter, so that might work. Will report back…
I have to second the effectiveness of a cat for rodent control.
You don’t have to adopt one. I just borrowed a neighbors pet for 24 hours and my rat problem disappeared. No evidence that it caught one, perhaps they just figured out my studio it was not such a fun place anymore.
I have to second the effectiveness of a cat for rodent control.
You don’t have to adopt one. I just borrowed a neighbors pet for 24 hours and my rat problem disappeared. No evidence that it caught one, perhaps they just figured out my studio it was not such a fun place anymore.
I have to second the effectiveness of a cat for rodent control.
You don’t have to adopt one. I just borrowed a neighbors pet for 24 hours and my rat problem disappeared. No evidence that it caught one, perhaps they just figured out my studio it was not such a fun place anymore.
Yes Jack (and Sapient), I’m pretty sure that could work from prior experience, but a) I don’t know anybody with a cat I could borrow for a day or two, and b) if a cat came to visit for a while it would take a lot of explaining to the ancient parent, and if she picked up on the mouse sitch she might be scared for a long, long time. Frankly, since she has been having plenty of sensory hallucinations anyway (the house is on fire, poison gas is seeping into the flat etc etc), which have made her very agitated until the anti-psychotics took effect, I’m super-reluctant to introduce more causes of anxiety.
Yes Jack (and Sapient), I’m pretty sure that could work from prior experience, but a) I don’t know anybody with a cat I could borrow for a day or two, and b) if a cat came to visit for a while it would take a lot of explaining to the ancient parent, and if she picked up on the mouse sitch she might be scared for a long, long time. Frankly, since she has been having plenty of sensory hallucinations anyway (the house is on fire, poison gas is seeping into the flat etc etc), which have made her very agitated until the anti-psychotics took effect, I’m super-reluctant to introduce more causes of anxiety.
Yes Jack (and Sapient), I’m pretty sure that could work from prior experience, but a) I don’t know anybody with a cat I could borrow for a day or two, and b) if a cat came to visit for a while it would take a lot of explaining to the ancient parent, and if she picked up on the mouse sitch she might be scared for a long, long time. Frankly, since she has been having plenty of sensory hallucinations anyway (the house is on fire, poison gas is seeping into the flat etc etc), which have made her very agitated until the anti-psychotics took effect, I’m super-reluctant to introduce more causes of anxiety.
Jeff, not Jack, sorry.
Jeff, not Jack, sorry.
Jeff, not Jack, sorry.
A female cat (spayed, of course).
Of curiosity, why a female? Of the cats I’ve known, the gibs were generally better mousers than the spays, and honestly I’d say they had more agreeable personalities as well.
A female cat (spayed, of course).
Of curiosity, why a female? Of the cats I’ve known, the gibs were generally better mousers than the spays, and honestly I’d say they had more agreeable personalities as well.
A female cat (spayed, of course).
Of curiosity, why a female? Of the cats I’ve known, the gibs were generally better mousers than the spays, and honestly I’d say they had more agreeable personalities as well.
It’s the cat SMELL that keeps mice away, since mice have highly developed sense of smell.
So, all it really takes is some slightly used cat litter.
The peanut butter is very effective as a bait because mice smell it, and it doesn’t dry out as rapidly as cheese.
Not sure if they have them in the UK, but the traps made of plastic (not the traditional “wood base, metal death hoop) are much easier to set.
Here’s an Amazon URL for the type: https://www.amazon.com/Tomcat-Press-Mouse-Trap-2-Pack/dp/B00N6XKVNY/ref=sr_1_8
A few years back, had a mouse problem. One of the traps “went missing” in the attic. Never found it.
It’s the cat SMELL that keeps mice away, since mice have highly developed sense of smell.
So, all it really takes is some slightly used cat litter.
The peanut butter is very effective as a bait because mice smell it, and it doesn’t dry out as rapidly as cheese.
Not sure if they have them in the UK, but the traps made of plastic (not the traditional “wood base, metal death hoop) are much easier to set.
Here’s an Amazon URL for the type: https://www.amazon.com/Tomcat-Press-Mouse-Trap-2-Pack/dp/B00N6XKVNY/ref=sr_1_8
A few years back, had a mouse problem. One of the traps “went missing” in the attic. Never found it.
It’s the cat SMELL that keeps mice away, since mice have highly developed sense of smell.
So, all it really takes is some slightly used cat litter.
The peanut butter is very effective as a bait because mice smell it, and it doesn’t dry out as rapidly as cheese.
Not sure if they have them in the UK, but the traps made of plastic (not the traditional “wood base, metal death hoop) are much easier to set.
Here’s an Amazon URL for the type: https://www.amazon.com/Tomcat-Press-Mouse-Trap-2-Pack/dp/B00N6XKVNY/ref=sr_1_8
A few years back, had a mouse problem. One of the traps “went missing” in the attic. Never found it.
Snarki, that looks like a perfect trap, but I have just checked and it is not available in the UK. I’ll see how things go in the next few days with the 2 x old-fashioned wood base, death metal hoop traps and the 1 x plastic humane trap, all set with chocolate smeared with peanut butter. Mr GftNC is also going to stuff any holes he can find with steel wool, which is apparently the only thing they can’t chew through. If that doesn’t work, we’ll have to call in the professionals, but the last time I had them in, many years ago, they put down poison which was never touched, traps which never caught anything, and the only thing which seemed to work, from then til now, was the steel wool.
Snarki, that looks like a perfect trap, but I have just checked and it is not available in the UK. I’ll see how things go in the next few days with the 2 x old-fashioned wood base, death metal hoop traps and the 1 x plastic humane trap, all set with chocolate smeared with peanut butter. Mr GftNC is also going to stuff any holes he can find with steel wool, which is apparently the only thing they can’t chew through. If that doesn’t work, we’ll have to call in the professionals, but the last time I had them in, many years ago, they put down poison which was never touched, traps which never caught anything, and the only thing which seemed to work, from then til now, was the steel wool.
Snarki, that looks like a perfect trap, but I have just checked and it is not available in the UK. I’ll see how things go in the next few days with the 2 x old-fashioned wood base, death metal hoop traps and the 1 x plastic humane trap, all set with chocolate smeared with peanut butter. Mr GftNC is also going to stuff any holes he can find with steel wool, which is apparently the only thing they can’t chew through. If that doesn’t work, we’ll have to call in the professionals, but the last time I had them in, many years ago, they put down poison which was never touched, traps which never caught anything, and the only thing which seemed to work, from then til now, was the steel wool.
Of curiosity, why a female?
In my experience, male cats are lazy and affectionate. Female cats work. Just anecdotal.
Of curiosity, why a female?
In my experience, male cats are lazy and affectionate. Female cats work. Just anecdotal.
Of curiosity, why a female?
In my experience, male cats are lazy and affectionate. Female cats work. Just anecdotal.
Does sapient’s “anecdata” make just as much sense with the word “cat” removed? Just asking.
Does sapient’s “anecdata” make just as much sense with the word “cat” removed? Just asking.
Does sapient’s “anecdata” make just as much sense with the word “cat” removed? Just asking.
indeed, those tomcat traps + peanut butter are awesome at killing mice.
indeed, those tomcat traps + peanut butter are awesome at killing mice.
indeed, those tomcat traps + peanut butter are awesome at killing mice.
Snarki, update: we have located the same traps on ebay.co.uk and have ordered a couple which should be here in a couple of weeks. Most of the customer reviews say they are gory in the extreme, but these traps are obviously a lot more effective than others, so if we still have mice when they arrive, it looks like we may not have them much longer. Many, many thanks, and as I said, will send rodent-related update in due course in case anybody else is interested.
Snarki, update: we have located the same traps on ebay.co.uk and have ordered a couple which should be here in a couple of weeks. Most of the customer reviews say they are gory in the extreme, but these traps are obviously a lot more effective than others, so if we still have mice when they arrive, it looks like we may not have them much longer. Many, many thanks, and as I said, will send rodent-related update in due course in case anybody else is interested.
Snarki, update: we have located the same traps on ebay.co.uk and have ordered a couple which should be here in a couple of weeks. Most of the customer reviews say they are gory in the extreme, but these traps are obviously a lot more effective than others, so if we still have mice when they arrive, it looks like we may not have them much longer. Many, many thanks, and as I said, will send rodent-related update in due course in case anybody else is interested.
“So, all it really takes is some slightly used cat litter.”
I think I’d rather have the mice
“So, all it really takes is some slightly used cat litter.”
I think I’d rather have the mice
“So, all it really takes is some slightly used cat litter.”
I think I’d rather have the mice
I just had to clear a trap this afternoon; one of the “tom cat” traps. Not gory at all! Yes, there are “teeth” on the jaws of the trap, but they’re plastic, and not sharp. If mess is an issue, put the trap on a piece of cardboard. Multiple traps should be far enough away that Mouse#1 doesn’t see the fate of Mouse#2.
The wire traps are more likely to give gory results, IME.
Also filling holes with aluminum foil (“aluminium” for you, GftNC) keeps mice out; think about the last time you bit into a piece of foil. You just have to cram the foil in sufficiently that it can’t be pawed out.
I just had to clear a trap this afternoon; one of the “tom cat” traps. Not gory at all! Yes, there are “teeth” on the jaws of the trap, but they’re plastic, and not sharp. If mess is an issue, put the trap on a piece of cardboard. Multiple traps should be far enough away that Mouse#1 doesn’t see the fate of Mouse#2.
The wire traps are more likely to give gory results, IME.
Also filling holes with aluminum foil (“aluminium” for you, GftNC) keeps mice out; think about the last time you bit into a piece of foil. You just have to cram the foil in sufficiently that it can’t be pawed out.
I just had to clear a trap this afternoon; one of the “tom cat” traps. Not gory at all! Yes, there are “teeth” on the jaws of the trap, but they’re plastic, and not sharp. If mess is an issue, put the trap on a piece of cardboard. Multiple traps should be far enough away that Mouse#1 doesn’t see the fate of Mouse#2.
The wire traps are more likely to give gory results, IME.
Also filling holes with aluminum foil (“aluminium” for you, GftNC) keeps mice out; think about the last time you bit into a piece of foil. You just have to cram the foil in sufficiently that it can’t be pawed out.
In my experience, male cats are lazy and affectionate. Female cats work. Just anecdotal.
Anecdotal for house cats, maybe, but I believe it is generally true for lions, at least. Though I’m not sure “affectionate” is the most accurate term.
In my experience, male cats are lazy and affectionate. Female cats work. Just anecdotal.
Anecdotal for house cats, maybe, but I believe it is generally true for lions, at least. Though I’m not sure “affectionate” is the most accurate term.
In my experience, male cats are lazy and affectionate. Female cats work. Just anecdotal.
Anecdotal for house cats, maybe, but I believe it is generally true for lions, at least. Though I’m not sure “affectionate” is the most accurate term.
Richard painter, w bush era ethics counsel, is suing the FBI, claiming that Comey”s actions violate the Hatch Act.
strange bedfellows. good times.
also, for bernie:
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/trump-foundation-halt-fundraising-eric-schneiderman-505726.html
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-foundation-new-york-attorney-general-palm-beach
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/new-york-attorney-general-opens-inquiry-into-trump-foundation-228125
Richard painter, w bush era ethics counsel, is suing the FBI, claiming that Comey”s actions violate the Hatch Act.
strange bedfellows. good times.
also, for bernie:
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/trump-foundation-halt-fundraising-eric-schneiderman-505726.html
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-foundation-new-york-attorney-general-palm-beach
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/new-york-attorney-general-opens-inquiry-into-trump-foundation-228125
Richard painter, w bush era ethics counsel, is suing the FBI, claiming that Comey”s actions violate the Hatch Act.
strange bedfellows. good times.
also, for bernie:
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/trump-foundation-halt-fundraising-eric-schneiderman-505726.html
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-foundation-new-york-attorney-general-palm-beach
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/new-york-attorney-general-opens-inquiry-into-trump-foundation-228125
I believe it is generally true for lions, at least.
I think they’re all kind of the same, except for the size. And size matters, because if my female cat were a lion, I’d be a goner.
I believe it is generally true for lions, at least.
I think they’re all kind of the same, except for the size. And size matters, because if my female cat were a lion, I’d be a goner.
I believe it is generally true for lions, at least.
I think they’re all kind of the same, except for the size. And size matters, because if my female cat were a lion, I’d be a goner.
strange bedfellows. good times.
I’m a nervous wreck. I haven’t had this much anxiety over something not directly my responsibility in my life. I hope it goes away after the election, but somehow I think that no matter who wins it will be the new normal.
strange bedfellows. good times.
I’m a nervous wreck. I haven’t had this much anxiety over something not directly my responsibility in my life. I hope it goes away after the election, but somehow I think that no matter who wins it will be the new normal.
strange bedfellows. good times.
I’m a nervous wreck. I haven’t had this much anxiety over something not directly my responsibility in my life. I hope it goes away after the election, but somehow I think that no matter who wins it will be the new normal.
I don’t think folks appreciate what a disaster POTUS Trump would be.
And, I think we’re already in the new normal.
I don’t think folks appreciate what a disaster POTUS Trump would be.
And, I think we’re already in the new normal.
I don’t think folks appreciate what a disaster POTUS Trump would be.
And, I think we’re already in the new normal.
Harry Reid’s letter about the FBI having “explosive” information about Trump’s ties to Russia should be raising more eyebrows and questions than it has.
http://www.reid.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Letter-to-Director-Comey-10_30_2016.pdf
But Comey can sit back and do jack about the turd he lit on fire in front of the nation on Friday and claim it shows he’s unconcerned with politics.
Harry Reid’s letter about the FBI having “explosive” information about Trump’s ties to Russia should be raising more eyebrows and questions than it has.
http://www.reid.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Letter-to-Director-Comey-10_30_2016.pdf
But Comey can sit back and do jack about the turd he lit on fire in front of the nation on Friday and claim it shows he’s unconcerned with politics.
Harry Reid’s letter about the FBI having “explosive” information about Trump’s ties to Russia should be raising more eyebrows and questions than it has.
http://www.reid.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Letter-to-Director-Comey-10_30_2016.pdf
But Comey can sit back and do jack about the turd he lit on fire in front of the nation on Friday and claim it shows he’s unconcerned with politics.
John Cole:
https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/10/30/james-comeys-and-our-very-broken-fbi/
Includes quote from WSJ article that the FBI realized recently that no one had bothered to get a warrant for the emails on Wiener’s laptop for a couple weeks. Whee.
John Cole:
https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/10/30/james-comeys-and-our-very-broken-fbi/
Includes quote from WSJ article that the FBI realized recently that no one had bothered to get a warrant for the emails on Wiener’s laptop for a couple weeks. Whee.
John Cole:
https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/10/30/james-comeys-and-our-very-broken-fbi/
Includes quote from WSJ article that the FBI realized recently that no one had bothered to get a warrant for the emails on Wiener’s laptop for a couple weeks. Whee.
I think they’re all kind of the same, except for the size.
Enh, not really. Lions are oddballs because they’re social, and yes, the females do most of the hunting. Cheetahs are social as well, but they tend to have less division of labor. For the rest of the big cats (and large-cats-that-technically-aren’t-big-cats), males have significantly larger ranges and are very territorial, while the females have smaller ranges but if they do overlap they’re less likely to fight.
I think they’re all kind of the same, except for the size.
Enh, not really. Lions are oddballs because they’re social, and yes, the females do most of the hunting. Cheetahs are social as well, but they tend to have less division of labor. For the rest of the big cats (and large-cats-that-technically-aren’t-big-cats), males have significantly larger ranges and are very territorial, while the females have smaller ranges but if they do overlap they’re less likely to fight.
I think they’re all kind of the same, except for the size.
Enh, not really. Lions are oddballs because they’re social, and yes, the females do most of the hunting. Cheetahs are social as well, but they tend to have less division of labor. For the rest of the big cats (and large-cats-that-technically-aren’t-big-cats), males have significantly larger ranges and are very territorial, while the females have smaller ranges but if they do overlap they’re less likely to fight.
An interesting take on the Clinton Foundation, which seems to me (FWTW) to have a degree of truth in it…
http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/the-facts-and-falsehoods-of-the-clinton-foundation
An interesting take on the Clinton Foundation, which seems to me (FWTW) to have a degree of truth in it…
http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/the-facts-and-falsehoods-of-the-clinton-foundation
An interesting take on the Clinton Foundation, which seems to me (FWTW) to have a degree of truth in it…
http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/the-facts-and-falsehoods-of-the-clinton-foundation
facts have no place in this discussion. the faithful know what happened.
facts have no place in this discussion. the faithful know what happened.
facts have no place in this discussion. the faithful know what happened.
Well golly gee…Bill Clinton figures out a way to cash in after his stint at public service, just like every other Tom, Dick, and Harry Congresscritter does the minute they lose an election.
That rich people would expect “something” for their “charitable giving” should come as NO SURPRISE, but no, not in the case of the Clintons.
Better they should have both retired to a monastery in 2001, or sat around in a small house in Arkansas barely getting by just as Harry Truman endured in his retirement.
Nigel, that was a classic in the genre, Clinton Rules.
I hold no great brief for the Clintons, but for Christ’s sake, enough already.
Well golly gee…Bill Clinton figures out a way to cash in after his stint at public service, just like every other Tom, Dick, and Harry Congresscritter does the minute they lose an election.
That rich people would expect “something” for their “charitable giving” should come as NO SURPRISE, but no, not in the case of the Clintons.
Better they should have both retired to a monastery in 2001, or sat around in a small house in Arkansas barely getting by just as Harry Truman endured in his retirement.
Nigel, that was a classic in the genre, Clinton Rules.
I hold no great brief for the Clintons, but for Christ’s sake, enough already.
Well golly gee…Bill Clinton figures out a way to cash in after his stint at public service, just like every other Tom, Dick, and Harry Congresscritter does the minute they lose an election.
That rich people would expect “something” for their “charitable giving” should come as NO SURPRISE, but no, not in the case of the Clintons.
Better they should have both retired to a monastery in 2001, or sat around in a small house in Arkansas barely getting by just as Harry Truman endured in his retirement.
Nigel, that was a classic in the genre, Clinton Rules.
I hold no great brief for the Clintons, but for Christ’s sake, enough already.
This email thing is a measure of how easy it is for hyper-partisan rightwingers to play the media and some of the public.
Just get the words “email, investigate and Clinton” into the media and a percentage of the population with froth at the mouth like Pavlov’s dogs.
We are supposed to be rational creatures created in the image of god, not credulous haters.
So what if she sent emails to an aide who is not under investigation for anything? What monstrous crime is this supposed to prove? OR even imply?
The emails will not turn out to be national security leaks that she hid from the other investigation. They will not turn out to be proof of a nefarious plot to do some unspecified but horrendously awful thing that confirms the worst fears of the rightwing fever swamp and proves that the haters have been right along.
Most likely they will be duplicates of emails she already turned over.
But that won’t keep hyper-partisan haters from leaking the right words to the media to get more mouth frothing from people who should know better.
In the end this rightwing smear will be like all the others: there will be no substance to it by haters will repeat it forever as id there was substance because they want to hate for their own reasons that have nothing to do with Clinton herself.
This email thing is a measure of how easy it is for hyper-partisan rightwingers to play the media and some of the public.
Just get the words “email, investigate and Clinton” into the media and a percentage of the population with froth at the mouth like Pavlov’s dogs.
We are supposed to be rational creatures created in the image of god, not credulous haters.
So what if she sent emails to an aide who is not under investigation for anything? What monstrous crime is this supposed to prove? OR even imply?
The emails will not turn out to be national security leaks that she hid from the other investigation. They will not turn out to be proof of a nefarious plot to do some unspecified but horrendously awful thing that confirms the worst fears of the rightwing fever swamp and proves that the haters have been right along.
Most likely they will be duplicates of emails she already turned over.
But that won’t keep hyper-partisan haters from leaking the right words to the media to get more mouth frothing from people who should know better.
In the end this rightwing smear will be like all the others: there will be no substance to it by haters will repeat it forever as id there was substance because they want to hate for their own reasons that have nothing to do with Clinton herself.
This email thing is a measure of how easy it is for hyper-partisan rightwingers to play the media and some of the public.
Just get the words “email, investigate and Clinton” into the media and a percentage of the population with froth at the mouth like Pavlov’s dogs.
We are supposed to be rational creatures created in the image of god, not credulous haters.
So what if she sent emails to an aide who is not under investigation for anything? What monstrous crime is this supposed to prove? OR even imply?
The emails will not turn out to be national security leaks that she hid from the other investigation. They will not turn out to be proof of a nefarious plot to do some unspecified but horrendously awful thing that confirms the worst fears of the rightwing fever swamp and proves that the haters have been right along.
Most likely they will be duplicates of emails she already turned over.
But that won’t keep hyper-partisan haters from leaking the right words to the media to get more mouth frothing from people who should know better.
In the end this rightwing smear will be like all the others: there will be no substance to it by haters will repeat it forever as id there was substance because they want to hate for their own reasons that have nothing to do with Clinton herself.
A right-winger friend of mine shared this with me, noting how I’m always responding to his arguments with “charts and graphs” (a.k.a. “data” or “facts”). It’s a goofy RW “analysis” of what are supposedly the 100 most damaging wikileaks.
The descriptions of what the emails say or mean vary from questionable assumptions in the face of ambiguity and lack of context to blatantly purposeful misinterpretations to having no discernible connection to the text being described. It’s mostly run-of-the-mill campaign crap that any political campaign’s staff would privately engage in.
These ridiculous interpretations go to show why these “bombshells” are nothing of the sort. The complaints over the lack of media coverage on this stuff seem to ignore that it’s mostly inconsequential and, for most people, boring. I find it somewhat interesting in a voyeuristic way, just having the opportunity to see insider stuff like this, but my pearls remain unclutched.
A right-winger friend of mine shared this with me, noting how I’m always responding to his arguments with “charts and graphs” (a.k.a. “data” or “facts”). It’s a goofy RW “analysis” of what are supposedly the 100 most damaging wikileaks.
The descriptions of what the emails say or mean vary from questionable assumptions in the face of ambiguity and lack of context to blatantly purposeful misinterpretations to having no discernible connection to the text being described. It’s mostly run-of-the-mill campaign crap that any political campaign’s staff would privately engage in.
These ridiculous interpretations go to show why these “bombshells” are nothing of the sort. The complaints over the lack of media coverage on this stuff seem to ignore that it’s mostly inconsequential and, for most people, boring. I find it somewhat interesting in a voyeuristic way, just having the opportunity to see insider stuff like this, but my pearls remain unclutched.
A right-winger friend of mine shared this with me, noting how I’m always responding to his arguments with “charts and graphs” (a.k.a. “data” or “facts”). It’s a goofy RW “analysis” of what are supposedly the 100 most damaging wikileaks.
The descriptions of what the emails say or mean vary from questionable assumptions in the face of ambiguity and lack of context to blatantly purposeful misinterpretations to having no discernible connection to the text being described. It’s mostly run-of-the-mill campaign crap that any political campaign’s staff would privately engage in.
These ridiculous interpretations go to show why these “bombshells” are nothing of the sort. The complaints over the lack of media coverage on this stuff seem to ignore that it’s mostly inconsequential and, for most people, boring. I find it somewhat interesting in a voyeuristic way, just having the opportunity to see insider stuff like this, but my pearls remain unclutched.
Nigel, that was a classic in the genre, Clinton Rules.
I hold no great brief for the Clintons, but for Christ’s sake, enough already.
I read it as a reasonable explanation of why the Foundation wasn’t actually corrupt, but YMMV.
So what if she sent emails to an aide who is not under investigation for anything? What monstrous crime is this supposed to prove? OR even imply?
It allows the FBI director to raise the possibility (without any real prospect of proof before the election) that there is the scintilla of a possiblity that there might be an email in there which isn’t a duplicate of those already disclosed… and that said email is proof of … whatever. Oh, and prior even to obtaining legal clearance to look at said emails.
Which enables ‘worse than Watergate bomshell’ type headlines.
I was slightly amused that Bush Minor’s former chief of ethics (a not undemanding post in that administration) has raised a formal complaint against Comey over this.
Nigel, that was a classic in the genre, Clinton Rules.
I hold no great brief for the Clintons, but for Christ’s sake, enough already.
I read it as a reasonable explanation of why the Foundation wasn’t actually corrupt, but YMMV.
So what if she sent emails to an aide who is not under investigation for anything? What monstrous crime is this supposed to prove? OR even imply?
It allows the FBI director to raise the possibility (without any real prospect of proof before the election) that there is the scintilla of a possiblity that there might be an email in there which isn’t a duplicate of those already disclosed… and that said email is proof of … whatever. Oh, and prior even to obtaining legal clearance to look at said emails.
Which enables ‘worse than Watergate bomshell’ type headlines.
I was slightly amused that Bush Minor’s former chief of ethics (a not undemanding post in that administration) has raised a formal complaint against Comey over this.
Nigel, that was a classic in the genre, Clinton Rules.
I hold no great brief for the Clintons, but for Christ’s sake, enough already.
I read it as a reasonable explanation of why the Foundation wasn’t actually corrupt, but YMMV.
So what if she sent emails to an aide who is not under investigation for anything? What monstrous crime is this supposed to prove? OR even imply?
It allows the FBI director to raise the possibility (without any real prospect of proof before the election) that there is the scintilla of a possiblity that there might be an email in there which isn’t a duplicate of those already disclosed… and that said email is proof of … whatever. Oh, and prior even to obtaining legal clearance to look at said emails.
Which enables ‘worse than Watergate bomshell’ type headlines.
I was slightly amused that Bush Minor’s former chief of ethics (a not undemanding post in that administration) has raised a formal complaint against Comey over this.
that Millennium Report site seems totally legit!
http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/10/there-are-only-3-outcomes-after-the-november-8-election/
that Millennium Report site seems totally legit!
http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/10/there-are-only-3-outcomes-after-the-november-8-election/
that Millennium Report site seems totally legit!
http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/10/there-are-only-3-outcomes-after-the-november-8-election/
Comey’s statement on the “new” emails reminds me of the “lost” IRS emails – it’s the best thing possible for the GOP.
In both cases, they can project whatever content onto those emails they want to and bleat that if we just had them they would “prove” that Obama ordered the IRS to oppress the conserative grass roots and erase all the evidence and that HRC personally tore the heart out of the Benghazi victims with her teeth and sold U.S. nuclear secrets to Clinton foundation donors without any worry of ever being contradicted – or at least not contradicted before the election, after which it won’t matter because no one will remember the details.
Comey’s statement on the “new” emails reminds me of the “lost” IRS emails – it’s the best thing possible for the GOP.
In both cases, they can project whatever content onto those emails they want to and bleat that if we just had them they would “prove” that Obama ordered the IRS to oppress the conserative grass roots and erase all the evidence and that HRC personally tore the heart out of the Benghazi victims with her teeth and sold U.S. nuclear secrets to Clinton foundation donors without any worry of ever being contradicted – or at least not contradicted before the election, after which it won’t matter because no one will remember the details.
Comey’s statement on the “new” emails reminds me of the “lost” IRS emails – it’s the best thing possible for the GOP.
In both cases, they can project whatever content onto those emails they want to and bleat that if we just had them they would “prove” that Obama ordered the IRS to oppress the conserative grass roots and erase all the evidence and that HRC personally tore the heart out of the Benghazi victims with her teeth and sold U.S. nuclear secrets to Clinton foundation donors without any worry of ever being contradicted – or at least not contradicted before the election, after which it won’t matter because no one will remember the details.
cleek, great example of what one gets when they pull political predictions out of Uranus.
cleek, great example of what one gets when they pull political predictions out of Uranus.
cleek, great example of what one gets when they pull political predictions out of Uranus.
I read it as a reasonable explanation of why the Foundation wasn’t actually corrupt, but YMMV.
I read it as damning with faint praise, but yes, YMMV 🙂
I read it as a reasonable explanation of why the Foundation wasn’t actually corrupt, but YMMV.
I read it as damning with faint praise, but yes, YMMV 🙂
I read it as a reasonable explanation of why the Foundation wasn’t actually corrupt, but YMMV.
I read it as damning with faint praise, but yes, YMMV 🙂
that Millennium Report site seems totally legit!
The same friend praised the latest James O’Keefe offering as “what real journalists are supposed to be doing.”
As an aside, this guy graduated from Northwestern, at least was fluent in Spanish (may have since lost fluency from disuse), spent time in Ecuador (I think – but somewhere in that part of South America) doing charitable volunteer work, is active in Rotary, coaches his kids’ sports teams, has a great dry sense of humor, etc., etc.
But staunch conservatism/Republicanism is more or less the family religion. It’s really fncking weird to me how otherwise good-natured and intelligent people can accept such blatant bullshit. There it is, none the less.
that Millennium Report site seems totally legit!
The same friend praised the latest James O’Keefe offering as “what real journalists are supposed to be doing.”
As an aside, this guy graduated from Northwestern, at least was fluent in Spanish (may have since lost fluency from disuse), spent time in Ecuador (I think – but somewhere in that part of South America) doing charitable volunteer work, is active in Rotary, coaches his kids’ sports teams, has a great dry sense of humor, etc., etc.
But staunch conservatism/Republicanism is more or less the family religion. It’s really fncking weird to me how otherwise good-natured and intelligent people can accept such blatant bullshit. There it is, none the less.
that Millennium Report site seems totally legit!
The same friend praised the latest James O’Keefe offering as “what real journalists are supposed to be doing.”
As an aside, this guy graduated from Northwestern, at least was fluent in Spanish (may have since lost fluency from disuse), spent time in Ecuador (I think – but somewhere in that part of South America) doing charitable volunteer work, is active in Rotary, coaches his kids’ sports teams, has a great dry sense of humor, etc., etc.
But staunch conservatism/Republicanism is more or less the family religion. It’s really fncking weird to me how otherwise good-natured and intelligent people can accept such blatant bullshit. There it is, none the less.
i keep re-reading that chunk of text i quoted and imagining it as being read by Napoleon Dynamite.
i keep re-reading that chunk of text i quoted and imagining it as being read by Napoleon Dynamite.
i keep re-reading that chunk of text i quoted and imagining it as being read by Napoleon Dynamite.
In fairness, this was the link he shared. I thought that Millennium Report looked weird. But the “analysis” is the same. Millennium Report just lifted the text.
In fairness, this was the link he shared. I thought that Millennium Report looked weird. But the “analysis” is the same. Millennium Report just lifted the text.
In fairness, this was the link he shared. I thought that Millennium Report looked weird. But the “analysis” is the same. Millennium Report just lifted the text.
Drip, drip of disobliging news…
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/cnn-severs-ties-with-donna-brazile-230534
Drip, drip of disobliging news…
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/cnn-severs-ties-with-donna-brazile-230534
Drip, drip of disobliging news…
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/cnn-severs-ties-with-donna-brazile-230534
actualy, the whole thing about trump and the fire monkey sounds kind of plausible.
actualy, the whole thing about trump and the fire monkey sounds kind of plausible.
actualy, the whole thing about trump and the fire monkey sounds kind of plausible.
I assumed he was a howler monkey. But maybe he will douse himself in gasoline and charge Hillary before all is over.
I assumed he was a howler monkey. But maybe he will douse himself in gasoline and charge Hillary before all is over.
I assumed he was a howler monkey. But maybe he will douse himself in gasoline and charge Hillary before all is over.
I am somewhat unschooled in the niceties of US law enforcement, but might I be right in thinking that Director Comey is a complete horse’s ass ?
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html
I am somewhat unschooled in the niceties of US law enforcement, but might I be right in thinking that Director Comey is a complete horse’s ass ?
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html
I am somewhat unschooled in the niceties of US law enforcement, but might I be right in thinking that Director Comey is a complete horse’s ass ?
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html
complete horse’s ass
Going to run for something as a Republican, probably. So, yes.
complete horse’s ass
Going to run for something as a Republican, probably. So, yes.
complete horse’s ass
Going to run for something as a Republican, probably. So, yes.
Can’t teach an old dog new tricks:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/31/donald-trump-is-refusing-to-pay-his-campaign-pollster-nearly-three-quarters-of-a-million-dollars/
If you don’t pay when you aren’t satisfied with someone’s work. And you dislike the fact that the polls show you losing, obviously you will feel like you shouldn’t pay. (The fact that the polls were accurate, if they were, would be irrelevant.)
Can’t teach an old dog new tricks:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/31/donald-trump-is-refusing-to-pay-his-campaign-pollster-nearly-three-quarters-of-a-million-dollars/
If you don’t pay when you aren’t satisfied with someone’s work. And you dislike the fact that the polls show you losing, obviously you will feel like you shouldn’t pay. (The fact that the polls were accurate, if they were, would be irrelevant.)
Can’t teach an old dog new tricks:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/31/donald-trump-is-refusing-to-pay-his-campaign-pollster-nearly-three-quarters-of-a-million-dollars/
If you don’t pay when you aren’t satisfied with someone’s work. And you dislike the fact that the polls show you losing, obviously you will feel like you shouldn’t pay. (The fact that the polls were accurate, if they were, would be irrelevant.)
Deadbeat billionaire.
Deadbeat billionaire.
Deadbeat billionaire.
not being an IT guy I don’t know what to make of this?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
not being an IT guy I don’t know what to make of this?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
not being an IT guy I don’t know what to make of this?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
Jeff, it may not be a smoking gun. But it looks damn suspicious. Far more so than a private e-mail server.
Jeff, it may not be a smoking gun. But it looks damn suspicious. Far more so than a private e-mail server.
Jeff, it may not be a smoking gun. But it looks damn suspicious. Far more so than a private e-mail server.
Your GOP Chairman of the Senate Intelligemce Committee ladies and gentlemen:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/31/politics/richard-burr-hillary-clinton-gun-owners/index.html
Your GOP Chairman of the Senate Intelligemce Committee ladies and gentlemen:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/31/politics/richard-burr-hillary-clinton-gun-owners/index.html
Your GOP Chairman of the Senate Intelligemce Committee ladies and gentlemen:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/31/politics/richard-burr-hillary-clinton-gun-owners/index.html
Your GOP Chairman of the Senate Intelligemce Committee ladies and gentlemen
So happy to be a Democratic “apparatchik”, working against these fn$^s for my entire life. They’ve been slimy thugs since Nixon, and nothing has changed.
Your GOP Chairman of the Senate Intelligemce Committee ladies and gentlemen
So happy to be a Democratic “apparatchik”, working against these fn$^s for my entire life. They’ve been slimy thugs since Nixon, and nothing has changed.
Your GOP Chairman of the Senate Intelligemce Committee ladies and gentlemen
So happy to be a Democratic “apparatchik”, working against these fn$^s for my entire life. They’ve been slimy thugs since Nixon, and nothing has changed.
They’ve been slimy thugs since
Nixonthe Compromise of 1877.They’ve been slimy thugs since
Nixonthe Compromise of 1877.They’ve been slimy thugs since
Nixonthe Compromise of 1877.Well, thanks, bobbyp, because my grandparents weren’t Rethugs either! (although they were kind o’ racist).
Well, thanks, bobbyp, because my grandparents weren’t Rethugs either! (although they were kind o’ racist).
Well, thanks, bobbyp, because my grandparents weren’t Rethugs either! (although they were kind o’ racist).
Trumpchurian:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/russia-s-cold-decrepit-hand
Trumpchurian:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/russia-s-cold-decrepit-hand
Trumpchurian:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/russia-s-cold-decrepit-hand
So happy to be a Democratic “apparatchik”, working against these fn$^s for my entire life.
sapient, you know as well as anyone that you’re not getting called an apparatchik for persistently being opposed to Republicans. You get called an apparatchik for persistently refusing to entertain (or even tolerate) any meaningful criticism of the orthodox Democratic establishment. Someone doesn’t achieve partisan hack status by doggedly attacking their party’s enemies; they achieve that status by categorically refusing to critically examine the actions of their party.
So happy to be a Democratic “apparatchik”, working against these fn$^s for my entire life.
sapient, you know as well as anyone that you’re not getting called an apparatchik for persistently being opposed to Republicans. You get called an apparatchik for persistently refusing to entertain (or even tolerate) any meaningful criticism of the orthodox Democratic establishment. Someone doesn’t achieve partisan hack status by doggedly attacking their party’s enemies; they achieve that status by categorically refusing to critically examine the actions of their party.
So happy to be a Democratic “apparatchik”, working against these fn$^s for my entire life.
sapient, you know as well as anyone that you’re not getting called an apparatchik for persistently being opposed to Republicans. You get called an apparatchik for persistently refusing to entertain (or even tolerate) any meaningful criticism of the orthodox Democratic establishment. Someone doesn’t achieve partisan hack status by doggedly attacking their party’s enemies; they achieve that status by categorically refusing to critically examine the actions of their party.
Someone doesn’t achieve partisan hack status by doggedly attacking their party’s enemies; they achieve that status by categorically refusing to critically examine the actions of their party.
I’ll embrace the word “apparatchik” on my own terms. You are welcome to be a perpetual skeptic [cynic], but shooting your own friends is not how positive change happens. The Democratic “establishment” is made up of people who have been working against the Republican horror story for a very long time, with the tools that were available as we were fighting. I’m one of those Democrats, and quite proud of it.
Someone doesn’t achieve partisan hack status by doggedly attacking their party’s enemies; they achieve that status by categorically refusing to critically examine the actions of their party.
I’ll embrace the word “apparatchik” on my own terms. You are welcome to be a perpetual skeptic [cynic], but shooting your own friends is not how positive change happens. The Democratic “establishment” is made up of people who have been working against the Republican horror story for a very long time, with the tools that were available as we were fighting. I’m one of those Democrats, and quite proud of it.
Someone doesn’t achieve partisan hack status by doggedly attacking their party’s enemies; they achieve that status by categorically refusing to critically examine the actions of their party.
I’ll embrace the word “apparatchik” on my own terms. You are welcome to be a perpetual skeptic [cynic], but shooting your own friends is not how positive change happens. The Democratic “establishment” is made up of people who have been working against the Republican horror story for a very long time, with the tools that were available as we were fighting. I’m one of those Democrats, and quite proud of it.
Positive change on issues comes from people who take stands on the issues and eventually, if the change occurs, it’s because enough people are persuaded that it becomes safe for some politicians to change their minds. Before they change their minds it is typical to find activists criticizing them for their backwards positions, often in heated terms. All part of the process. Campaign seasons are the worst time to discuss issues, because almost everything revolves around either helping or hurting the images of the candidates. For some people it’s always campaign season.
No doubt after the election ( which hopefully Clinton wins) nearly everyone will go back to focusing on issues. Yes, that last sentence was snark.
Positive change on issues comes from people who take stands on the issues and eventually, if the change occurs, it’s because enough people are persuaded that it becomes safe for some politicians to change their minds. Before they change their minds it is typical to find activists criticizing them for their backwards positions, often in heated terms. All part of the process. Campaign seasons are the worst time to discuss issues, because almost everything revolves around either helping or hurting the images of the candidates. For some people it’s always campaign season.
No doubt after the election ( which hopefully Clinton wins) nearly everyone will go back to focusing on issues. Yes, that last sentence was snark.
Positive change on issues comes from people who take stands on the issues and eventually, if the change occurs, it’s because enough people are persuaded that it becomes safe for some politicians to change their minds. Before they change their minds it is typical to find activists criticizing them for their backwards positions, often in heated terms. All part of the process. Campaign seasons are the worst time to discuss issues, because almost everything revolves around either helping or hurting the images of the candidates. For some people it’s always campaign season.
No doubt after the election ( which hopefully Clinton wins) nearly everyone will go back to focusing on issues. Yes, that last sentence was snark.
Positive change on issues comes from people who take stands on the issues and eventually, if the change occurs, it’s because enough people are persuaded that it becomes safe for some politicians to change their minds.
sometimes, yes.
other times it happens simply because the opposition to change is no longer in power.
Positive change on issues comes from people who take stands on the issues and eventually, if the change occurs, it’s because enough people are persuaded that it becomes safe for some politicians to change their minds.
sometimes, yes.
other times it happens simply because the opposition to change is no longer in power.
Positive change on issues comes from people who take stands on the issues and eventually, if the change occurs, it’s because enough people are persuaded that it becomes safe for some politicians to change their minds.
sometimes, yes.
other times it happens simply because the opposition to change is no longer in power.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article111691277.html
thanks a lot, Obama.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article111691277.html
thanks a lot, Obama.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article111691277.html
thanks a lot, Obama.
Maybe Senator Burr will do the one thing he can do that, more than any other, will make America better: lose.
Maybe Senator Burr will do the one thing he can do that, more than any other, will make America better: lose.
Maybe Senator Burr will do the one thing he can do that, more than any other, will make America better: lose.