Huntsman Rising?

by publius Utah Governor Jon Huntsman continues to stake out a conspicuously moderate persona — this time in an ABC interview regarding Specter.  At first glance, his tactics seem foolish for a potential 2012 candidate.  "Conspicuous moderation" isn't exactly sweeping the GOP primary electorate by storm these days. But still, it's a smart strategy for … Read more

Scalia Yells at Cloud

by publius I'll have more to say on the Supreme Court's indecency decision later — though it was decided on narrow administrative law grounds, rather than on constitutional grounds. Briefly, though, the opinion illustrates once again (like Lawrence and Raisch) that Justice Scalia's worldview is shaped by a bitter and venomous resentment of what he … Read more

More Specter

by publius The quest to say anything original about Specter may well be hopeless.  There are only 8 million posts or so out there.  But I’ll give it a shot – here are a few more scattered thoughts: Thanks Hillary Today’s flip further vindicates Clinton’s decision to fight it out to the bitter end in … Read more

Congratulations Club For Growth!

by publius You've delivered Harry Reid his 60th Democrat.  Specter is officially switching parties. UPDATE:  Other than the pure schadenfreude, the best part of the switch is that the PA primary dynamics have now completely changed.  Prior to today, Specter was being pulled unwillingly to the right by the pressure to win the median Republican … Read more

Swine Flu: What We Should Do for One Another

What follows is a guest post by Ruth A. Karron and Ruth R. Faden. Ruth A. Karron is the director of the Center for Immunization Research and Johns Hopkins Vaccine Initiative at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.  Ruth R. Faden is the executive director of the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics. *** At … Read more

One Last Collins Point

by publius It's nice to see Senator Collins scrambling to note her support for pandemic flu funding.  And I'm sure she's telling the truth about that. The point of the Collins snark, though, wasn't so much to accuse her of endangering public health.  It was to illustrate how utterly absurd and non-substantive her stimulus posturing … Read more

The Great Susan Collins

by publius Boy, this isn't going to age well (via Yglesias/Political Carnival).  Here's Susan Collins in a press conference on February 5, 2009: And these decisions are difficult. For example, I think everybody in the room is concerned about pandemic flu. Does it belong in this bill? Should we have $870 million in this bill? … Read more

Gay Marriage in the Courts

by publius I didn’t write about the Iowa gay marriage decision – largely because my tentative post seemed inappropriate.  I was happy for people and didn’t want to rain on their parade.  But the decision did pose a dilemma for me.  On the one hand, I’ve generally been skeptical of using the judiciary to bring … Read more

Magic!

by hilzoy From the NYT: "The rest of the nation may be getting back to basics, but on Wall Street, paychecks still come with a golden promise. Workers at the largest financial institutions are on track to earn as much money this year as they did before the financial crisis began, because of the strong … Read more

Your Weekend Snark

by publius Today's Week in Review has an article on various American Presidents' affinity for Shakespeare.  Total juvenile snark, but this is still great stuff from the Artist Formerly Known as the Decider: George W. Bush knew Shakespeare, too: he told an interviewer that on vacation in 2006 he had “read three Shakespeares,” but he … Read more

Swine Flu

by hilzoy From the Washington Post: "The World Health Organization rushed to convene an emergency meeting Saturday to develop a response to the "pandemic potential" of a new swine flu virus that has sparked a deadly outbreak in Mexico and spread to disparate parts of the United States. Health officials reported that at least eight … Read more

My Allegedly Vengeful Heart

by hilzoy In an unprecedented, shocking development, David Broder is against any sort of accountability for what he refers to as "torture":  "If ever there were a time for President Obama to trust his instincts and stick to his guns, that time is now, when he is being pressured to change his mind about closing … Read more

Best News I’ve Heard All Year

by publius The agreement to use reconciliation for health care is huge – it’s arguably the single best development since Obama’s inauguration.  It not only means that health care reform will be much easier to pass – it means that the ultimate legislation will also be much better (with a public plan, etc.). And that’s … Read more

Make It So

by hilzoy From the LATimes: "The Obama administration is preparing to admit into the United States as many as seven Chinese Muslims who have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay in the first release of any of the detainees into this country, according to current and former U.S. officials. Their release is seen as a crucial … Read more

The Limits of “Effectiveness”

by publius Via Andrew Sullivan, Steve Chapman raises a really good point – there’s simply no way that the effectiveness of torture can solely justify its use.  And I think he poses a difficult logical problem for torture supporters. Chapman notes that if “effectiveness” is all we care about, any form of torture would necessarily … Read more

Learned Helplessness

by hilzoy I wanted to highlight a point from yesterday's NYT article on the decision to use torture: "By late 2001, the agency had contracted with James E. Mitchell, a psychologist with the SERE program who had monitored many mock interrogations but had never conducted any real ones, according to colleagues. He was known for … Read more

Why We Fight

by hilzoy I'm late getting to this, from McClatchy: "The Bush administration applied relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part to find evidence of cooperation between al Qaida and the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's regime, according to a former senior U.S. intelligence official and a former Army psychiatrist. (…) … Read more

A Perfect Storm

by hilzoy The NYT has a damning piece about the decision to use torture: "In a series of high-level meetings in 2002, without a single dissent from cabinet members or lawmakers, the United States for the first time officially embraced the brutal methods of interrogation it had always condemned. This extraordinary consensus was possible, an … Read more

Looking Forward

by hilzoy I didn't have a problem with President Obama's announcement that he wasn't going to prosecute CIA officers who relied on the guidance they got from the OLC. I'm uneasy about prosecuting people who rely on the OLC, which they ought to be able to rely on. (I think that relying on legal interpretations … Read more

Onward to Sodom and Gomorrah

by Eric Matin I'm off to San Francisco today [insert obvious liberal joke here].  I'll up that joke one: I used to live in Berkely when I was a wee lad.  Yeah, I was doomed from the get go. Mostly in SF on business, but if any ObWingers in the hood want to meet up … Read more

Prof. James Horne On The Memos

by hilzoy When discussing sleep deprivation, the memos released last Thursday cite the work of Dr. James Horne in support of the claim that sleep deprivation for up to 180 hours is not torture. (See here, pp. 35-40.) I wrote to Dr. Horne and asked him whether he would like to respond to this use … Read more

Why We Need Universal Health Insurance

by hilzoy Kate Michelman tells a horrible story in The Nation. In 2001, a horse fell backwards onto her daughter, paralyzing her for life. Then her husband was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Michelman and her husband had health insurance and long-term care insurance; her daughter did not. Between her daughter's expenses and what her husband's health … Read more

Bracketology

by Eric Martin Matt Yglesias does a good job beating back a recent example of the now familiar marginal tax rate mendacity (the disingenuous argument that a family earning slightly more than $250,000 is facing a sharp tax increase if and when Obama raises the marginal rates on dollars earned above $250,000 and begins phasing out deductions).  In … Read more

More Things That Are Missing

by hilzoy

A couple of other things that are missing from the torture memos:

First, the memos cite various legal precedents for the definition of torture. They are particularly fond of Mehinovic v. Vuckovic, which involved "a course of conduct that included severe beatings to the genitals, head, and other parts of the body with metal pipes and various other items; removal of teeth with pliers; kicking in the face and ribs; breaking of bones and ribs and dislocation of fingers; cutting a figure into the victim's forehead; hanging the victim and beating him; extreme limitations of food and water; and subjection to games of 'Russian Roulette'." (p. 24; the details of this case are repeated on four separate occasions in this memo alone, like an incantation.)

Isn't it strange, then, that not a single one of the cases in which the United States has prosecuted people for waterboarding turns up in these memos? You'd think they might be apposite. Oddly enough, though, Steven Bradbury didn't think to include them.

Second: As I noted last night, under the US Code, an important issue in determining whether something counts as producing "severe mental pain or suffering" is whether it produces "prolonged mental harm". In discussing this question, especially with regard to sleep deprivation and waterboarding, Steven Bradbury spends a lot of time discussing the scientific literature on these topics. 

And yet, once you think about it, he had a much better source of information available to him. These memos were written in May, 2005. The CIA had been using these "methods of interrogation" for nearly three years. Moreover, the memos fall all over themselves describing the repeated psychiatric evaluations that detainees are given: 

"Prior to interrogation, each detainee is evaluated by medical and psychological professionals from the CIA's Office of Medical Services ("OMS") to ensure that he is not likely to suffer any severe physical or mental pain or suffering as a result of interrogation." (p. 4)

Bradbury then quotes the OMS' guidelines:

"[T]echnique-specific advance approval is required for all "enhanced" measures, and is 'conditional on on-site medical and psychological personnel confirming from direct detainee examination that the enhanced technique(s) is not expected to produce "physical or mental pain or suffering"'. As a practical matter, the detainee's physical condition must be such that these interventions will not have lasting effect, and his psychological state strong enough that no severe psychological harm will result." (p. 4)

Moreover:

"Medical and psychological personnel are on-scene throughout (and, as detailed below, physically present or otherwise observing during the application of many techniques, including all techniques involving physical contact with detainees), and "[d]aily physical and psychological evaluations are continued throughout the period of [enhanced interrogation technique] use." (p. 5; square brackets in the original.)

With all those psychological workups having been conducted on CIA detainees over a period of nearly three years, one might think that the CIA, and specifically its Office of Medical Services, would have lots of information on whether or not the techniques under discussion actually did produce any "prolonged mental harm." And yet, strange to say, the memos don't mention any evidence at all about the effects of these techniques on CIA detainees*.

It's pretty strange that the CIA had all that data about the psychiatric effects of its interrogation techniques ready to hand, and yet no one mentions it.

Or then again, maybe not.

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Torture: The Bureaucracy In Action

by hilzoy I will have a lot more to say about the torture memos later tonight. For now, though, I just want to echo this point by Andrew Sullivan, which is very, very important. He's contrasting the Bradbury memos from 2005 to the Bybee memo from 2002: "What is far more important and far graver … Read more

The Sugar-Free Daddy

by Eric Martin John Mueller makes an important pointabout the nature of the Taliban/al-Qaeda relationship that rarely gets the attention it deserves: President Barack Obama insists that the U.S. mission in Afghanistan is about “making sure that al Qaeda cannot attack the U.S. homeland and U.S. interests and our allies” or “project violence against” American citizens. The … Read more

A Man With Very Little Skill and Knowledge

by Eric Martin Below is an excerpted Al-Hayat interview with Ahmed Chalabi, the man who the neoconservative braintrust (oxymoron?) promoted, during the run-up to the invasion, as the next leader of Iraq.  The same man whose word was bond in the Bush administration, and whose organization was funded with a monthly six-figure stipend in order to produce … Read more

Faust Tarp

by Eric Martin Barry Ritholtz on a recent piece by Joseph Stiglitz: Over the past few months, I have criticized CEA director Lawrence Summers “Sacred Cows/Save the Banks” approach, rather than a save the financial system approach. And the mad attempts to bailout the bond holders also came in for some harsh words. Joseph Stiglitz agrees: The … Read more

“Prolonged Mental Harm”

by hilzoy As I noted in my last post, the US Code defines torture as an act that (among other things) is intended to produce "severe physical or mental pain or suffering", and defines "severe mental pain or suffering" as "prolonged mental harm" resulting from one of several types of act. Naturally, then, the torture … Read more

No One Could Have Predicted…

by publius Bybee Memo (2002): [W]alling involves quickly pulling the person forward and then thrusting him against a flexible false wall.  You have informed us that the sound of hitting the wall will actually be far worse than any possible injury[.]  The use of the rolled towel around the neck also reduces any risk of … Read more

Something Is Missing

by hilzoy I'm still digesting the torture memos, and probably won't say anything comprehensive about them tonight. I did, however, want to flag one thing that is missing.  The US Code defines torture as "an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or … Read more

Time to Become a Card-Carrying Member

by publius I'm still digesting the torture memos and commentary, but Glenn speaks the truth here: Finally, it should be emphasized — yet again — that it was not our Congress, nor our media, nor our courts that compelled disclosure of these memos.  Instead, it was the ACLU's tenacious efforts over several years which single-handedly … Read more