by hilzoy
One of the things that always worries me about blogs is this: it’s incredibly easy for one incident to grab a lot of attention, and end up absolutely eclipsing everything else the participants have ever done. In some cases, this is perfectly appropriate: I do not know a lot about Jeffrey Dahmer‘s childhood, his relationships with his friends, or his work history, but I’m not sure what possible revelation could make me think that his being a serial killer and cannibal had just been blown out of proportion. In others, though, it’s not.
I mention this because I was reading this post by Digby, who is one of my favorite bloggers ever, and it contains this from CNN:
“Lt. Gen. James Mattis, who commanded Marine expeditions in Afghanistan and Iraq, made the comments Tuesday during a panel discussion in San Diego, California.
“Actually it’s quite fun to fight them, you know. It’s a hell of a hoot,” Mattis said, prompting laughter from some military members in the audience. “It’s fun to shoot some people. I’ll be right up there with you. I like brawling.
“You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn’t wear a veil,” Mattis said. “You know, guys like that ain’t got no manhood left anyway. So it’s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them.””
About which Digby says:
“This is just in keeping with Bush administration policy that all the most outrageous of his commanders and failed advisors must be promoted and commended.”
I just finished reading Thomas Ricks’ Fiasco, which has a description of Mattis that makes him sound a lot more complicated, and a lot more impressive, than the CNN article would indicate. (He also comes off pretty well in Cobra II, although the time period that book covers means that he has less of a role.) How that squares with the incident CNN reports (and which Ricks also notes) I have no idea. In Ricks’ book, the impressive part comes first, and so when I arrived at the episode CNN describes, I didn’t think “oh, a bloodthirsty neanderthal”; I though: how on earth did the guy I read about earlier end up saying that? I can imagine various possibilities — for one thing, Mattis generally comes across as someone who thinks: you have to be very fair and very smart in wartime, and you have to think about the morality of what you do, but that said, sometimes you also have to kill people. He also comes across as someone who genuinely likes being in the Marines, and who also likes fighting. It’s not impossible to think of ways in which a person like that might say something like what CNN reports, especially if you imagine that he really did mean the “some” in “It’s fun to shoot some people.”
I mean: I do not, myself, understand why someone would enjoy shooting any people. It’s a mystery to me, the way it’s a mystery that some people enjoy putting money into a machine that periodically spits small fractions of it back to them when cheesy pictures of fruit line up. But since there are people who genuinely like warfare, the armed forces is a good place for them, and I think a lot would turn on whether they recognize the importance of keeping that peculiar taste within extremely clear and well-structured limits. (The way it’s really important for someone with the sort of go-for-the-jugular competitiveness that a world-class athlete would need to keep that feature of her personality confined to her sport, and out of, say, her marriage.) As I said, I don’t know Gen. Mattis, so I’m in no position to say whether he does recognize that or not. But Ricks’ description suggests that he does, and so, in the interests of context and fairness, I will summarize and excerpt some of what Ricks says below the fold.
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