I saw this first via Drudge and figured, well, you know, it’s Drudge – but apparently Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) really will not be a featured speaker at this year’s Democratic National Convention. I wonder why.
No, I really am wondering. I mean, she spoke at the 2000 convention, and before I read this I would have said that if a Senatorial candidate (and current First Lady) would have a slot, then so would a current Senator from a key state (and former First Lady). Assuming that this is correct, there’s something interesting going on here…
Moe
UPDATE: Constant Reader wilfred has provided us with a link indicating that Sen Clinton is on the list to speak after all. Must have been a glitch in the system, or something.
Another UPDATE: Constant Reader Gary Farber sees wilfred’s Burlington Free Press and raises one New York Times article as proof that Sen Clinton won’t be speaking after all.
I don’t see it, myself. If being a junior, and first-term, Senator, gets you the gig, we’d have pretty much the entire Democratic Senate caucus up there. Even if only from a “key state,” it would be about twenty or so.
I don’t get why you figure just another Senator, who is not running for office, and not the First Lady, should be up there.
But it’s not, at least, remotely as bizarre as all those insane Republican predictions (I’m not tarring Republicans here, Moe: only those strange enough to be obsessed with Hillary Clinton) that Senator Clinton was going to be the Democratic nominee, when, as a minor detail, not a single well-known Democrat could be found in favor of it, and pretty much no ordinary Democratic voters.
That’s the only thing strange I see: the weird fixation so many Republicans (I’m not saying you, Moe) have with Senator Clinton. Sorry.
Gary, I’ll actually admit to being mildly obsessed with Sen. Clinton, if by that one means “I expect her to run – and win – in 2008” (although I would like to point out that I’m not particularly frightened by either prospect); still, the fact remains that she is in most people’s top ten list for most well-known Democratic Senators. She’s unique, in fact: a hawkish Democratic Senator, former First Lady and holder of the Clinton name who hails from one of the states so greviously attacked in 2001. Seems like a no-brainer to give her speech time, particularly since the networks would actually want to broadcast it.
As I said: strange that they didn’t. Not particularly dark/omnious or anything, just interesting. 🙂
It was announced yesterday that Hillary will speak at the Convention. If anyone needs the link let me know.
If you’ve got it handy, drop it in comments and I’ll update as needed.
i read it via a Dean article. In the 5th paragraph Gov. Bill Richardson verifies it.
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/bfpnews/news/2000h.htm
Mrs. Clinton Will Be in Boston, but Not at the Microphone.
Buried in the story:
But she’s not going to be an independent “speaker.”
If, however, you’d like fudge room:
“If anyone needs the link let me know.”
Know. Because it saves everyone ever so much trouble to make them ask.
Myself, I’d rather see, and think it would be a far better idea, if Howard Dean got a major slot, than Senator Clinton. But do keep in mind that the only slots that count will be during the one hour of each of three nights the networks will broadcast. And they’re booked.
Obliged, wilfred.
Incidentally, Wilfred,in the interest of regarding how to read a news story, regarding this:
an accurate description would be “Speaking casually, Governor Richardson said Senator Clinton will speak, along with hundreds of other people, in some minor way, at some point during the convention; the story confirms that Senator Clinton will not have a major speaking slot.”
Not “it was announced.” It wasn’t “announced.” “Announced” has a specific meaning, and this isn’t it. Richardson wasn’t speaking officially on behalf of the convention of which he was chair, and wasn’t making an “announcement.”
Beyond that, it was a small-town newspaper, but more importantly, the story *specifically* referred, in the lead paragraph, to the official announcement; Richardson’s statement, read correctly, clearly refers to “speaking” in the vague sense that the convention will have people at the podium for about eight hours a day for three days, and hundreds of people will be “speaking,” without having one of the official major speaking slots.
wow moe, mowing grandmothers lawns and making links for the tech-impaired. tell your girlfriend she has a keeper!
Here’s your updated update, Moe.
I expect her to run – and win – in 2008
…which is weird: why do you expect Kerry to be a one-term President?
Wilfred sees Gary’s NY Times and raises a NY Times of his own. Call.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/15/politics/trail/16TRAIL-CLINTON.html?pagewanted=print
looks like my reading skills are just fine Gary and i think our covention head Gov. Bill Richardson would back me up. The Times is just covering their butts here and getting in yet another bash at Kerry.
I ain’t doing any more updates, just so you know. 🙂
Moe
PS: How did the birth of your godson(?) go?
Moe, he was born at 3:21pm and is 7 pounds, 7 ounces and was born on 7/14! and best of all he’s healthy and beautiful. Thanks so much for asking (can you tell i’m proud?).
Congrats! I’m sure that we’ll see pictures at some point…
Well, yes, insofar as a non-sentence not quite worthy of Keroac, and definitely not Joyce, makes sense, whatever. I do expect that folks at the “covention” may, um, back up their head. If you want to put it that way. I wouldn’t, but it’s a choice.
(See, here is where we don’t do that silly punctuation thing.)
I wouldn’t also choose to bring up butts and bash in the same breath, but it’s yet another choice. As a Democrat, I regret it, but c’est la vie.
Myself, I’m almost regretting I didn’t apply for the famous “blogger credentials,” so as to also be able to assert that I was “speaking” at the convention, given that it doesn’t actually mean, apparently, one of the listed evening slots, but merely means “speaking” “at the convention.” Which surely is an honor.
Despite my mock, congrats on your godson. Really.
Actually, that was way over-snotty of me, Wilfred. I apologize. I have excuses, which I won’t give, since none do.
Gary,
First, don’t sweat it, and i hope your bad day doesn’t spill over into tomorrow. Everyone i know seems to be dealing with lots of stuff this week. Second, thanks for the wishes. My godson is a sweetie. And last but not least– Only a straight man would have a problem with butt and bash being in the same sentence 🙂
Congrats Wilfred!
We want Pictures!!!