by Ugh
Geez, I go out for a work conference and dinner and all this crap happens. Some thoughts/observations:
- Like the dessert topping/floor wax sketch, Comey can both deserve firing and his firing by Trump under the circumstances completely inappropriate
- While Trump remains the most important political actor in the country, Mitch McConnell is a close second, someone on twitter notes "none of this will matter until McConnell decides it will"
- How did all your machinations work out for you there James?
- If Trump nominates Rudy! we have truly become a banana republic
- I will repeat the criticism I made at the time of Comey's appointment (and Gates/Hagel): were there no qualified Democrats? There is no upside to these supposed bipartisan appointments
Good times.
the “Dems hate Comey! they should love this!” seems to be the right’s favorite line today. but, it’s completely undermined by the fact that nobody for a second believes Trump was upset about Comey sticking a knife in Clinton’s back. whatever Trump’s motivations were here, making Dems happy is definitely not one of them.
the “Dems hate Comey! they should love this!” seems to be the right’s favorite line today. but, it’s completely undermined by the fact that nobody for a second believes Trump was upset about Comey sticking a knife in Clinton’s back. whatever Trump’s motivations were here, making Dems happy is definitely not one of them.
I thought this was a pretty informative article:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/the-political-isolation-of-jim-comey-215120
I thought this was a pretty informative article:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/the-political-isolation-of-jim-comey-215120
Interesting read, there, Nigel.
Interesting read, there, Nigel.
Angus King proposes that Comey be appointed to head an independent investigation into Russia’s role in the election. I can’t imagine it will happen, so I wonder if he’s just poking the tiger. Or something.
Angus King proposes that Comey be appointed to head an independent investigation into Russia’s role in the election. I can’t imagine it will happen, so I wonder if he’s just poking the tiger. Or something.
I can’t imagine it will happen, so I wonder if he’s just poking the tiger.
By all means, poke the tiger. Keep the heat on.
DJT is not used to being in a position where he is answerable to anybody else. I doubt he knows what to do in his current situation. I doubt he knows how to learn.
Poke the tiger. Make him show us all what he’s made of.
I can’t imagine it will happen, so I wonder if he’s just poking the tiger.
By all means, poke the tiger. Keep the heat on.
DJT is not used to being in a position where he is answerable to anybody else. I doubt he knows what to do in his current situation. I doubt he knows how to learn.
Poke the tiger. Make him show us all what he’s made of.
“How did all your machinations work out for you there James?”
This presupposes that Comey was trying to help Trump win. I don’t think Comey was pro-Trump, he was anti-Clinton. Comey was very much a beltway style person, despite thinking of himself as above the fray. I suspect he was angling for this endgame:
Clinton Presidency weakened, his power consolidated because she wouldn’t dare challenge him with all the crap surrounding her and because he would look good to the Republican side of the power base for challenging her.
I doubt he considered “Trump winning” as a plausible outcome.
“How did all your machinations work out for you there James?”
This presupposes that Comey was trying to help Trump win. I don’t think Comey was pro-Trump, he was anti-Clinton. Comey was very much a beltway style person, despite thinking of himself as above the fray. I suspect he was angling for this endgame:
Clinton Presidency weakened, his power consolidated because she wouldn’t dare challenge him with all the crap surrounding her and because he would look good to the Republican side of the power base for challenging her.
I doubt he considered “Trump winning” as a plausible outcome.
Imagined press conference:
“Mr. President, there are rumors that Comey has been compromised by Russian intelligence. Do you think that it is acceptable for someone compromised by Russian intelligence to serve in the administration?”
Imagined press conference:
“Mr. President, there are rumors that Comey has been compromised by Russian intelligence. Do you think that it is acceptable for someone compromised by Russian intelligence to serve in the administration?”
“DJT is not used to being in a position where he is answerable to anybody else. I doubt he knows what to do in his current situation. I doubt he knows how to learn.”
I suspect he’s very used to jumping when the Russians tell him to jump, to rolling over when they tell him to roll over, to sit up when they tell him to sit up…
“DJT is not used to being in a position where he is answerable to anybody else. I doubt he knows what to do in his current situation. I doubt he knows how to learn.”
I suspect he’s very used to jumping when the Russians tell him to jump, to rolling over when they tell him to roll over, to sit up when they tell him to sit up…
“This presupposes that Comey was trying to help Trump win.”
No I was thinking the same thing you lay out.
“This presupposes that Comey was trying to help Trump win.”
No I was thinking the same thing you lay out.
Ok, gotcha!
Ok, gotcha!
Cool it, you two.
Cool it, you two.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html
just a coincidence, i’m sure.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html
just a coincidence, i’m sure.
Likewise a coincidence that the firing came just a day after the grand jury issued subpoenas for Flynn and several of his associates.
Likewise a coincidence that the firing came just a day after the grand jury issued subpoenas for Flynn and several of his associates.
i suppose i should note that DOJ a spokesperson denies this.
http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2017/05/10/department-justice-denies-james-comey-requested-additional-funding/
i suppose i should note that DOJ a spokesperson denies this.
http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2017/05/10/department-justice-denies-james-comey-requested-additional-funding/
The denial is that he wanted more funding–i.e. A dedicated line item. The specifically admit he wanted more resources–i.e. manpower. So the denial doesn’t contradict the thrust of the story at all.
The denial is that he wanted more funding–i.e. A dedicated line item. The specifically admit he wanted more resources–i.e. manpower. So the denial doesn’t contradict the thrust of the story at all.
“Likewise a coincidence that the firing came just a day after the grand jury issued subpoenas for Flynn and several of his associates.”
and the day before he was scheduled to testify before congress.
“Likewise a coincidence that the firing came just a day after the grand jury issued subpoenas for Flynn and several of his associates.”
and the day before he was scheduled to testify before congress.
Well it appears that he will still be testifying, just not as the current FBI director. And I think I saw that it will be a closed hearing, which means classified information can be discussed. Could be more damaging than the previously scheduled appearance. Especially as the acting Director will be appearing in Comey’s originally scheduled slot.
Well it appears that he will still be testifying, just not as the current FBI director. And I think I saw that it will be a closed hearing, which means classified information can be discussed. Could be more damaging than the previously scheduled appearance. Especially as the acting Director will be appearing in Comey’s originally scheduled slot.
Could be more damaging than the previously scheduled appearance.
That depends entirely on the people listening. I have more confidence in Burr than I do, say, McConnell, but not much more.
Could be more damaging than the previously scheduled appearance.
That depends entirely on the people listening. I have more confidence in Burr than I do, say, McConnell, but not much more.
Well it will include the whole committee, i.e. members from both parties. Which makes covering up a bit more challenging.
Well it will include the whole committee, i.e. members from both parties. Which makes covering up a bit more challenging.
Which makes covering up a bit more challenging.
Except that revealing classified information is a crime. My Senator, Warner, won’t do it.
Which makes covering up a bit more challenging.
Except that revealing classified information is a crime. My Senator, Warner, won’t do it.
Meanwhile, Trump seems determined to miss no opportunity to make the situation worse for himself. For his meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, he excluded the U.S. media. So the only “media” present, apparently, was TASS, the Russian state-owned news agency, which published photos of the meeting. Apparently even Fox News wasn’t worthy.
One can only conclude that the man has a gun rest on his knee. To ensure that he doesn’t miss when shooting himself in the foot.
Meanwhile, Trump seems determined to miss no opportunity to make the situation worse for himself. For his meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, he excluded the U.S. media. So the only “media” present, apparently, was TASS, the Russian state-owned news agency, which published photos of the meeting. Apparently even Fox News wasn’t worthy.
One can only conclude that the man has a gun rest on his knee. To ensure that he doesn’t miss when shooting himself in the foot.
By the way, Warner is a DLC Dem. He has a conscience about this, and I think is sincere and maybe brave. But he’s deep into collegiality, and who knows – maybe that’s good. I predict though that he comes from the hearing “deeply concerned.” It’s pretty much still up to R’s to do the right thing, and the chances of that are slim.
Also, the Senate investigation doesn’t have a mission to impose penalties or indictments.
By the way, Warner is a DLC Dem. He has a conscience about this, and I think is sincere and maybe brave. But he’s deep into collegiality, and who knows – maybe that’s good. I predict though that he comes from the hearing “deeply concerned.” It’s pretty much still up to R’s to do the right thing, and the chances of that are slim.
Also, the Senate investigation doesn’t have a mission to impose penalties or indictments.
My only response to this is “Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”. The guy had been digging himself multiple holes and then connecting them to each other for at least 8 or 9 months.
He should not have had any public opinion on whether there was enough evidence to charge or indict Clinton.
He should not have announced that the investigation was restarted, then he could have not commented on the investigation being reclosed.
He should have had no comment on whether there was a Russia investigation, much less discuss anything about it, or who was involved.
He should not have commented on whether Trump was being bugged.
Essentially, he made himself a public figure, which may or may not have been reason enough to fire him at each point.
But it should come as no surprise that Trump would take a simple opportunity to fire him.
Nor is it particularly concerning from an “abuse of power” perspective. Target painted, fire.
My only response to this is “Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”. The guy had been digging himself multiple holes and then connecting them to each other for at least 8 or 9 months.
He should not have had any public opinion on whether there was enough evidence to charge or indict Clinton.
He should not have announced that the investigation was restarted, then he could have not commented on the investigation being reclosed.
He should have had no comment on whether there was a Russia investigation, much less discuss anything about it, or who was involved.
He should not have commented on whether Trump was being bugged.
Essentially, he made himself a public figure, which may or may not have been reason enough to fire him at each point.
But it should come as no surprise that Trump would take a simple opportunity to fire him.
Nor is it particularly concerning from an “abuse of power” perspective. Target painted, fire.
Marty, you don’t give a shit that we’re now pawns of Putin? Seems crazy to me, but lots of other things do as well. Notice that I’m mot calling you “crazy”. Just seems … to me.
Marty, you don’t give a shit that we’re now pawns of Putin? Seems crazy to me, but lots of other things do as well. Notice that I’m mot calling you “crazy”. Just seems … to me.
By the way, folks, Marty claimed to be anti-Trump, but pro-Johnson. The truth is so flexible these days.
By the way, folks, Marty claimed to be anti-Trump, but pro-Johnson. The truth is so flexible these days.
So, the Marty phenomenon is what some of us should be talking about, maybe rather than talking to.
He’s a guy who likes to smoke pot, wants single payer healthcare, but embraces Donald Trump and Putin as the way our country should go. Including, in the package, of course, Jeff Sessions, who wants to go back to prosecuting low level drug offenders (like Marty? Maybe not, maybe just like Marty, except black).
Deplorable? It’s apparently wrong to say it. Is it okay to think it?
So, the Marty phenomenon is what some of us should be talking about, maybe rather than talking to.
He’s a guy who likes to smoke pot, wants single payer healthcare, but embraces Donald Trump and Putin as the way our country should go. Including, in the package, of course, Jeff Sessions, who wants to go back to prosecuting low level drug offenders (like Marty? Maybe not, maybe just like Marty, except black).
Deplorable? It’s apparently wrong to say it. Is it okay to think it?
It appears that He, Trump does indeed have the power to make seemingly-intelligent people parrot his BS.
Which, just to lighten the mood, reminds me of the old joke about the East German who went to the Stasi offices to report that his parrot had escaped. Asked why the hell he was bothering the secret police about a damn bird, the man replied: “I wish to declare that I do not share my parrot’s political views.”
–TP
It appears that He, Trump does indeed have the power to make seemingly-intelligent people parrot his BS.
Which, just to lighten the mood, reminds me of the old joke about the East German who went to the Stasi offices to report that his parrot had escaped. Asked why the hell he was bothering the secret police about a damn bird, the man replied: “I wish to declare that I do not share my parrot’s political views.”
–TP
The WH press corps is slowly starting to get it. Flat out denials from e.g. DOJ spokesperson can’t be taken as true.
WH and trump slowly realizing (maybe) that lying to press corps while laughing at them comes at a cost, so even if they are telling truth no one believes them.
CNN chryon today “WH story about Comey firing keeps changing”
My new theory (or wild ass guess) is that trump was funding his campaign in part with Russian funds (perhaps laundered through his business) while his campaign staff was having discussions with Russians, or perhaps just getting “tips” on what the next release or hack would be.
But again, none of this will matter unless McConnell starts caring.
The WH press corps is slowly starting to get it. Flat out denials from e.g. DOJ spokesperson can’t be taken as true.
WH and trump slowly realizing (maybe) that lying to press corps while laughing at them comes at a cost, so even if they are telling truth no one believes them.
CNN chryon today “WH story about Comey firing keeps changing”
My new theory (or wild ass guess) is that trump was funding his campaign in part with Russian funds (perhaps laundered through his business) while his campaign staff was having discussions with Russians, or perhaps just getting “tips” on what the next release or hack would be.
But again, none of this will matter unless McConnell starts caring.
Im not a Tom Brady fan ejther, but it doesnt surlrise me when the Pztriots win a game.
Coney could have been fired by Obama because of the way he handled the Clinton investigation, has nothing to do with whether I like Trump.
Certainly doesn’t impact whether we will have an investigation into the Russian involvement in the campaign. But mostly their was nothing sudden about it.
Im not a Tom Brady fan ejther, but it doesnt surlrise me when the Pztriots win a game.
Coney could have been fired by Obama because of the way he handled the Clinton investigation, has nothing to do with whether I like Trump.
Certainly doesn’t impact whether we will have an investigation into the Russian involvement in the campaign. But mostly their was nothing sudden about it.
“Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”
because Trump fired him with absolutely no warning, in the middle of the night, while Comey was out of state and only learned about it on TV?
how much more sudden could it have been?
“Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”
because Trump fired him with absolutely no warning, in the middle of the night, while Comey was out of state and only learned about it on TV?
how much more sudden could it have been?
Certainly doesn’t impact whether we will have an investigation into the Russian involvement in the campaign
you don’t think the director of the FBI has any influence over what his subordinates do?
he can’t direct the allocation of resources?
put down the water. Trump’s a scumbag. he’s not on your side. he’ll shit on you the first chance he gets – exactly as he’s done with countless others.
Certainly doesn’t impact whether we will have an investigation into the Russian involvement in the campaign
you don’t think the director of the FBI has any influence over what his subordinates do?
he can’t direct the allocation of resources?
put down the water. Trump’s a scumbag. he’s not on your side. he’ll shit on you the first chance he gets – exactly as he’s done with countless others.
Trumps a scumbag, so? Lots of people left to run a Russia investigation. Comey gave him, and anyone else, plenty of reason to fire him.
I guess I just expected it so it didn’t seem sudden.
Trumps a scumbag, so? Lots of people left to run a Russia investigation. Comey gave him, and anyone else, plenty of reason to fire him.
I guess I just expected it so it didn’t seem sudden.
My only response to this is “Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”
I’m shocked to hear this.
My only response to this is “Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”
I’m shocked to hear this.
My only response to this is “Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”. The guy had been digging himself multiple holes and then connecting them to each other for at least 8 or 9 months.
No question he’d been making a mess of things. But even though he should have been turned out long since, he hadn’t been. Indeed, Trump had continued to praise him, and explicitly his actions with regard to Clinton during the campaign. Which makes the official rationale for firing implausible. Not because it wasn’t a valid reason, but because there was every indication that Trump didn’t see it as a negative.
As for it being sudden, consider that it blindsided lots of the folks in the White House. People whose job is to explain and justify administration actions. Granted, they often end up repeating nonsense, simply because there’s no sensible explanation and no believable justification. But this time, they didn’t even have fantasy talking points to roll out. They had nothing.
So while you or I could see the case mounting up, it wasn’t something that showed any sign of being building within the administration. There, it erupted suddenly.
My only response to this is “Why doo they keep calling this a sudden firing”. The guy had been digging himself multiple holes and then connecting them to each other for at least 8 or 9 months.
No question he’d been making a mess of things. But even though he should have been turned out long since, he hadn’t been. Indeed, Trump had continued to praise him, and explicitly his actions with regard to Clinton during the campaign. Which makes the official rationale for firing implausible. Not because it wasn’t a valid reason, but because there was every indication that Trump didn’t see it as a negative.
As for it being sudden, consider that it blindsided lots of the folks in the White House. People whose job is to explain and justify administration actions. Granted, they often end up repeating nonsense, simply because there’s no sensible explanation and no believable justification. But this time, they didn’t even have fantasy talking points to roll out. They had nothing.
So while you or I could see the case mounting up, it wasn’t something that showed any sign of being building within the administration. There, it erupted suddenly.
Am I the only one who reads “Comey, Comey, Comey!” and thinks “Chomey! Comey cha-meeee-leeon!”?
Am I the only one who reads “Comey, Comey, Comey!” and thinks “Chomey! Comey cha-meeee-leeon!”?
minus that one “h”
minus that one “h”
Am I the only one who reads “Comey, Comey, Comey!” and thinks “Chomey! Comey cha-meeee-leeon!”?
You were the only one.
Now you have shared the earworm with me.
Damn you! *shakes fist*
Am I the only one who reads “Comey, Comey, Comey!” and thinks “Chomey! Comey cha-meeee-leeon!”?
You were the only one.
Now you have shared the earworm with me.
Damn you! *shakes fist*
I find the official explanation(s) implausible, incoherent, laughably transparent and completely standard bs. The headline I loved today was that Trump “yelled and cursed” about him and that wasn’t presidential.
What I find more incoherent is the list of reactions up to and including an “investigation of the firing”, like there is anything that could possibly be illegal about it.
For anyone not engulfed by it, the simple ridiculousness of the constant attempts to use ANYTHING to try to get rid of him, no matter how much THOSE attempts pervert the institutions that are supposedly the concern, an independent judiciary, an apolitical justice department, bipartisan Congressional fact finding, it’s just mind boggling.
The very things that he is accused of threatening are being used and perverted to assuage the shock and oncomprehensibilty of the goverment establishment that he could actually be in charge.
The press are proving him right about their bias every day, judges are using fanciful arguments to hold up immigration orders he clearly has a right to implement.
He is the duly elected President of the United States, you saying he isn’t perverts another fundamental institution.
I think the guy is a complete idiot, no doubt he will be the worst President since at least Carter. He may well end up being taken down by the Russian scandal.
But we shouldn’t destroy the fundamental institutions of our government to make that happen.
I find the official explanation(s) implausible, incoherent, laughably transparent and completely standard bs. The headline I loved today was that Trump “yelled and cursed” about him and that wasn’t presidential.
What I find more incoherent is the list of reactions up to and including an “investigation of the firing”, like there is anything that could possibly be illegal about it.
For anyone not engulfed by it, the simple ridiculousness of the constant attempts to use ANYTHING to try to get rid of him, no matter how much THOSE attempts pervert the institutions that are supposedly the concern, an independent judiciary, an apolitical justice department, bipartisan Congressional fact finding, it’s just mind boggling.
The very things that he is accused of threatening are being used and perverted to assuage the shock and oncomprehensibilty of the goverment establishment that he could actually be in charge.
The press are proving him right about their bias every day, judges are using fanciful arguments to hold up immigration orders he clearly has a right to implement.
He is the duly elected President of the United States, you saying he isn’t perverts another fundamental institution.
I think the guy is a complete idiot, no doubt he will be the worst President since at least Carter. He may well end up being taken down by the Russian scandal.
But we shouldn’t destroy the fundamental institutions of our government to make that happen.
I’m a little confused by you post, Marty.
Your argument seems to be that we shouldn’t criticise Trump for something he is in a narrow legal sense entitled to do, but we should vehemently criticise the press and judiciary for actions which are unequivocally within the law ?
It is, of course, hardly a matter of debate that a functioning democracy – and indeed a functioning legal system – rely upon a set of shared conventions and political norms every bit as much as they do on the strict letter of the law.
I’m a little confused by you post, Marty.
Your argument seems to be that we shouldn’t criticise Trump for something he is in a narrow legal sense entitled to do, but we should vehemently criticise the press and judiciary for actions which are unequivocally within the law ?
It is, of course, hardly a matter of debate that a functioning democracy – and indeed a functioning legal system – rely upon a set of shared conventions and political norms every bit as much as they do on the strict letter of the law.
Not at all Nigel, I think everyone should criticize Trump. He certainly deserves it. But at this point the courts, the justice department, Congress, and the press are clearly functioning in an “out to get him” mode. They bend rule and convention on the premise “he just has to go”.
And this is ok with a very large number of people who claim that he endangers rose very rules and conventions.
I believe the attempt to unseat him, a bloodless coup essentially, is more dangerous than anything he could do.
The precedents we are setting on both sides risk destroying our ability to govern as a people.
Not at all Nigel, I think everyone should criticize Trump. He certainly deserves it. But at this point the courts, the justice department, Congress, and the press are clearly functioning in an “out to get him” mode. They bend rule and convention on the premise “he just has to go”.
And this is ok with a very large number of people who claim that he endangers rose very rules and conventions.
I believe the attempt to unseat him, a bloodless coup essentially, is more dangerous than anything he could do.
The precedents we are setting on both sides risk destroying our ability to govern as a people.
But at this point the courts, the justice department, Congress, and the press are clearly functioning in an “out to get him” mode.
That’s far from clear to me. Congress appears to be his willing tool (the House in particular) – which is not something the framers of you constitution envisaged. The justice department is headed by his slavish loyalist.
The press and the courts are doing their job.
But at this point the courts, the justice department, Congress, and the press are clearly functioning in an “out to get him” mode.
That’s far from clear to me. Congress appears to be his willing tool (the House in particular) – which is not something the framers of you constitution envisaged. The justice department is headed by his slavish loyalist.
The press and the courts are doing their job.
like there is anything that could possibly be illegal about it.
It’s quite possible that Trump fired Comey to prevent him from continuing an investigation into illegal activities that Trump himself was involved in.
That’s how it’s possible that something could be illegal about it.
the courts, the justice department, Congress, and the press are clearly functioning in an “out to get him” mode
What color is the sky on the planet you live on?
The funny thing is, I can pretty easily imagine a scenario in which Trump has clean hands on the Russia issue. I can easily imagine Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, et al acting on behalf of Russian kleptocrats and/or Ukrainian opposition, for big dollars, and playing Trump like a violin to make US policy more favorable to Russia.
Without Trump having any idea WTF was going on.
Because he’s a vain, narcissistic, ignorant old fool who is vulnerable to people kissing his ass and manipulating him.
And now, he has done the one thing that will convince everyone in the world that he has something to hide. Whether he does or not.
He thinks he has special genes, and that he is therefore above the normal demands of representative governance. He thinks being POTUS is like being the CEO of a closely held family owned real estate development company.
People say he’s autocratic, like he has some concept of political governance or style. He doesn’t have the mental vocabulary to be an autocrat, I doubt he knows what that is or why it would or wouldn’t be appropriate.
He’s just a garden variety bully. A spoiled, ignorant, rich kid bully.
He got the gig because he knows how to read a room and sell a pile of bullshit to the rubes. He doesn’t have the chops to even understand what the gig is, let alone be good at it.
I don’t expect him to make four years, because at some point his usefulness to the (R)’s will diminish to the vanishing point, and they’ll kick him to the curb.
And if he’s the idiot that he manifestly appears to be, more fools the people who voted for him.
I’m just looking forward to this sh*t-show being over.
like there is anything that could possibly be illegal about it.
It’s quite possible that Trump fired Comey to prevent him from continuing an investigation into illegal activities that Trump himself was involved in.
That’s how it’s possible that something could be illegal about it.
the courts, the justice department, Congress, and the press are clearly functioning in an “out to get him” mode
What color is the sky on the planet you live on?
The funny thing is, I can pretty easily imagine a scenario in which Trump has clean hands on the Russia issue. I can easily imagine Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, et al acting on behalf of Russian kleptocrats and/or Ukrainian opposition, for big dollars, and playing Trump like a violin to make US policy more favorable to Russia.
Without Trump having any idea WTF was going on.
Because he’s a vain, narcissistic, ignorant old fool who is vulnerable to people kissing his ass and manipulating him.
And now, he has done the one thing that will convince everyone in the world that he has something to hide. Whether he does or not.
He thinks he has special genes, and that he is therefore above the normal demands of representative governance. He thinks being POTUS is like being the CEO of a closely held family owned real estate development company.
People say he’s autocratic, like he has some concept of political governance or style. He doesn’t have the mental vocabulary to be an autocrat, I doubt he knows what that is or why it would or wouldn’t be appropriate.
He’s just a garden variety bully. A spoiled, ignorant, rich kid bully.
He got the gig because he knows how to read a room and sell a pile of bullshit to the rubes. He doesn’t have the chops to even understand what the gig is, let alone be good at it.
I don’t expect him to make four years, because at some point his usefulness to the (R)’s will diminish to the vanishing point, and they’ll kick him to the curb.
And if he’s the idiot that he manifestly appears to be, more fools the people who voted for him.
I’m just looking forward to this sh*t-show being over.
The precedents we are setting on both sides risk destroying our ability to govern as a people.
I’m not sure any “precedents” are being set.
if we can’t find a way to govern ourselves as a people, perhaps consider that we aren’t a people.
that simple hypothesis explains a lot.
The precedents we are setting on both sides risk destroying our ability to govern as a people.
I’m not sure any “precedents” are being set.
if we can’t find a way to govern ourselves as a people, perhaps consider that we aren’t a people.
that simple hypothesis explains a lot.
w.r.s.
w.r.s.
what’s the guy going to do when he runs out of people to fire?
what’s the guy going to do when he runs out of people to fire?
can’t happen. the producers are there to bring in a new batch of them every 12 months.
can’t happen. the producers are there to bring in a new batch of them every 12 months.
For anyone not engulfed by it, the simple ridiculousness of the constant attempts to use ANYTHING to try to get rid of him…
He says about the guys who publicly encouraged the Russians to hack Clinton’s emails, just for example. Your ability to overlook ANYTHING when it comes to Trump is what’s ridiculous (not to mention disappointing and surprising). His entire campaign and his presidency thus far are nothing short of absurd. It’s a shameful circus, because he’s a clown.
I can only imagine what you would have said about Obama if he had done and said the sorts of things Trump has.
For anyone not engulfed by it, the simple ridiculousness of the constant attempts to use ANYTHING to try to get rid of him…
He says about the guys who publicly encouraged the Russians to hack Clinton’s emails, just for example. Your ability to overlook ANYTHING when it comes to Trump is what’s ridiculous (not to mention disappointing and surprising). His entire campaign and his presidency thus far are nothing short of absurd. It’s a shameful circus, because he’s a clown.
I can only imagine what you would have said about Obama if he had done and said the sorts of things Trump has.
“guy” dammit!
“guy” dammit!
“I can only imagine what you would have said about Obama if he had done and said the sorts of things Trump has.”
I would have said just what I am saying now. I think of them as being very much alike. All show, no substance, social media constructs to appeal to their 40% of the country, no respect for the office or the institutions of government, useless from a policy perspective because they cant create any form of consensus and a complete waste of time who’s best attribute is they are unlikely to significantly effect anything negatively in a large way. But not impeachable for any of those sins.
The focus on one sentence that Trump said during a campaign about Russia/hacking/Clintons emails, which is more proof to me that he had little to do with it than the other way around, is absolutely the perfect example of how ridiculous most of this is.
I don’t overlook anything he does, there just isn’t anything that he has done since he got into office that approaches a reason to overthrow the government.
If there was any evidence that he conspired with the Russians I am pretty certain the bureaucracy, particularly the intelligence bureaucracy would have hung him with it by now. But I accept the possibility that a smoking gun could come to light, because I would not put it passed the people around him to have compromised him. I don’t think he is likely to have done much himself.
“I can only imagine what you would have said about Obama if he had done and said the sorts of things Trump has.”
I would have said just what I am saying now. I think of them as being very much alike. All show, no substance, social media constructs to appeal to their 40% of the country, no respect for the office or the institutions of government, useless from a policy perspective because they cant create any form of consensus and a complete waste of time who’s best attribute is they are unlikely to significantly effect anything negatively in a large way. But not impeachable for any of those sins.
The focus on one sentence that Trump said during a campaign about Russia/hacking/Clintons emails, which is more proof to me that he had little to do with it than the other way around, is absolutely the perfect example of how ridiculous most of this is.
I don’t overlook anything he does, there just isn’t anything that he has done since he got into office that approaches a reason to overthrow the government.
If there was any evidence that he conspired with the Russians I am pretty certain the bureaucracy, particularly the intelligence bureaucracy would have hung him with it by now. But I accept the possibility that a smoking gun could come to light, because I would not put it passed the people around him to have compromised him. I don’t think he is likely to have done much himself.
the constant attempts to use ANYTHING to try to get rid of him
Wanna bet Marty wasn’t referring to Bill Clinton?
One thing’s for sure: He, Trump will never be impeached for lying about sexual impropriety.
–TP
the constant attempts to use ANYTHING to try to get rid of him
Wanna bet Marty wasn’t referring to Bill Clinton?
One thing’s for sure: He, Trump will never be impeached for lying about sexual impropriety.
–TP
actually, based on his electoral performance, twice, I’d say Obama had solid support above 40%. well above. I’d say it was 40% of the country who couldn’t accept him. probably less, probably more like the famous 27% hard core knucklehead contingent.
and that was enough to throw sand in the gears for 8 years.
the more you talk about obama, the nuttier you sound.
it’s the guy who’s there now who’s on thin electoral ice. that’s why folks want him out. and he’s on his way to making that happen for them, just by being himself.
actually, based on his electoral performance, twice, I’d say Obama had solid support above 40%. well above. I’d say it was 40% of the country who couldn’t accept him. probably less, probably more like the famous 27% hard core knucklehead contingent.
and that was enough to throw sand in the gears for 8 years.
the more you talk about obama, the nuttier you sound.
it’s the guy who’s there now who’s on thin electoral ice. that’s why folks want him out. and he’s on his way to making that happen for them, just by being himself.
I think of them as being very much alike.
because Obama told a lot of people that he appreciates his daughters’ bangability?
I think of them as being very much alike.
because Obama told a lot of people that he appreciates his daughters’ bangability?
this Time interview is astounding. Trump is completely ignorant and nearly incoherent.
this Time interview is astounding. Trump is completely ignorant and nearly incoherent.
I look forward to taking Trump’s Constitutional Law class. And I hope Obama grabs my p*ssy. (Sheesh…)
I look forward to taking Trump’s Constitutional Law class. And I hope Obama grabs my p*ssy. (Sheesh…)
this Time interview is astounding. Trump is completely ignorant and nearly incoherent.
It’s exhausting to read. The mind can only handle so many “Um … what???”s.
this Time interview is astounding. Trump is completely ignorant and nearly incoherent.
It’s exhausting to read. The mind can only handle so many “Um … what???”s.
On deal making in business vs. deal making in Washington
just like Obama
On deal making in business vs. deal making in Washington
just like Obama
I mean, it’s not that I–look, I always had Twinkies for my company. But it’s not that I–it was just something that wasn’t high on my list. I had people that negotiated for my company.
But in a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about Twinkies. And we did the right negotiating, and actually it’s a very interesting subject.
I mean, it’s not that I–look, I always had Twinkies for my company. But it’s not that I–it was just something that wasn’t high on my list. I had people that negotiated for my company.
But in a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about Twinkies. And we did the right negotiating, and actually it’s a very interesting subject.
But, the artist formerly known as an unpronounceable symbol that would sound like cleek if you could pronounce it, Obama’s rhetorical gifts only proved that he was superficial. Eloquence is bad.
But, the artist formerly known as an unpronounceable symbol that would sound like cleek if you could pronounce it, Obama’s rhetorical gifts only proved that he was superficial. Eloquence is bad.
that would be the misconception of misconceptions for that
indeed, that would be that, unless i’ve misconceived ?
that would be the misconception of misconceptions for that
indeed, that would be that, unless i’ve misconceived ?
It’s quite possible that Trump fired Comey to prevent him from continuing an investigation into illegal activities that Trump himself was involved in.
That’s how it’s possible that something could be illegal about it.
A brief drop in to say this part is probably not correct as far as the firing being illegal and as far as the firing producing the imputed intent. The Pres can fire the FBI Director anytime, for any reason. Therefore, there cannot be an illegal reason. Further, firing Comey isn’t going to end any investigation into anything. If anything, it will accelerate/intensify the investigations. Finally, if there is anything to the Russian angle, it will come out. No one likes Trump. No one is going to take a bullet for him.
It’s quite possible that Trump fired Comey to prevent him from continuing an investigation into illegal activities that Trump himself was involved in.
That’s how it’s possible that something could be illegal about it.
A brief drop in to say this part is probably not correct as far as the firing being illegal and as far as the firing producing the imputed intent. The Pres can fire the FBI Director anytime, for any reason. Therefore, there cannot be an illegal reason. Further, firing Comey isn’t going to end any investigation into anything. If anything, it will accelerate/intensify the investigations. Finally, if there is anything to the Russian angle, it will come out. No one likes Trump. No one is going to take a bullet for him.
If anything, it will accelerate/intensify the investigations.
Agreed. That Trump is shrewd is the misconception of misconceptions in his own mind.
(Not that I disagree on the illegal part. Just not bothering to offer a non-lawyerly opinion either way. Though I might risk noting, non-lawyerly, that grounds for impeachment, if that’s what we’re talking about, don’t really require illegality, despite “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Impeachment and conviction are acts of political will that must follow particular procedures. I’m open to correction on that.)
If anything, it will accelerate/intensify the investigations.
Agreed. That Trump is shrewd is the misconception of misconceptions in his own mind.
(Not that I disagree on the illegal part. Just not bothering to offer a non-lawyerly opinion either way. Though I might risk noting, non-lawyerly, that grounds for impeachment, if that’s what we’re talking about, don’t really require illegality, despite “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Impeachment and conviction are acts of political will that must follow particular procedures. I’m open to correction on that.)
Can one do something perfectly legal but that obstructs justice?
And is it still perfectly legal, is so?
–TP
Can one do something perfectly legal but that obstructs justice?
And is it still perfectly legal, is so?
–TP
The Pres can fire the FBI Director anytime, for any reason. Therefore, there cannot be an illegal reason. Further, firing Comey isn’t going to end any investigation into anything. If anything, it will accelerate/intensify the investigations.
I haven’t seen anyone claim that Trump firing Comey was illegal. (Although I have seen claims that others, uncited, have done so.) Pretty obviously it was legal, however stupid the timing or the execution were.
As for it not ending the investigation, that’s absolutely true. But I think it is also entirely possible that Trump (albeit damn few others) thought firing Comey was a way to either stop the investigation or at least intimidate those involved into backing off. It would be in keeping with his general bluster and bully approach to interacting with the rest of the world.
The Pres can fire the FBI Director anytime, for any reason. Therefore, there cannot be an illegal reason. Further, firing Comey isn’t going to end any investigation into anything. If anything, it will accelerate/intensify the investigations.
I haven’t seen anyone claim that Trump firing Comey was illegal. (Although I have seen claims that others, uncited, have done so.) Pretty obviously it was legal, however stupid the timing or the execution were.
As for it not ending the investigation, that’s absolutely true. But I think it is also entirely possible that Trump (albeit damn few others) thought firing Comey was a way to either stop the investigation or at least intimidate those involved into backing off. It would be in keeping with his general bluster and bully approach to interacting with the rest of the world.
Can one do something perfectly legal but that obstructs justice?
And is it still perfectly legal, is so?
Usually. Obstruction of justice is stuff like destroying documents and attempting to improperly influence testimony. Refusing to cooperate can obstruct justice, but the refusal isn’t a crime.I cannot conceive of a circumstance where performing a legal act can be illegal.
Firing someone like Comey is just stupid. It makes the target on your back just that much larger.
And I agree with HSH, he could be impeached for it even if it isn’t illegal.
Can one do something perfectly legal but that obstructs justice?
And is it still perfectly legal, is so?
Usually. Obstruction of justice is stuff like destroying documents and attempting to improperly influence testimony. Refusing to cooperate can obstruct justice, but the refusal isn’t a crime.I cannot conceive of a circumstance where performing a legal act can be illegal.
Firing someone like Comey is just stupid. It makes the target on your back just that much larger.
And I agree with HSH, he could be impeached for it even if it isn’t illegal.
“A brief drop in to say this part is probably not correct as far as the firing being illegal”
I am happy to defer to you on points of law. I stand corrected.
I have no disagreement with the rest of your comment.
“A brief drop in to say this part is probably not correct as far as the firing being illegal”
I am happy to defer to you on points of law. I stand corrected.
I have no disagreement with the rest of your comment.
I’m *pretty sure* it’s perfectly legal to install and underground document storage bunker, with really strong doors and an alarm system that triggers sprinklers to flood all the “documents-with-soluble-ink” contained within.
Doing so after I’ve already been put on notice that the FBI is investigating me for being in bed with the Russians? Still legal? IOKIYAR.
I’m *pretty sure* it’s perfectly legal to install and underground document storage bunker, with really strong doors and an alarm system that triggers sprinklers to flood all the “documents-with-soluble-ink” contained within.
Doing so after I’ve already been put on notice that the FBI is investigating me for being in bed with the Russians? Still legal? IOKIYAR.
It’s been bugging me for a couple of months now, and I finally worked out who Jeff Sessions reminds me of.
Anyone remember the Nazi leader in the Blues Brothers film ?
It’s been bugging me for a couple of months now, and I finally worked out who Jeff Sessions reminds me of.
Anyone remember the Nazi leader in the Blues Brothers film ?
the Nazi leader in the Blues Brothers film
Henry Gibson, eternal character actor.
he does indeed look like Sessions.
the Nazi leader in the Blues Brothers film
Henry Gibson, eternal character actor.
he does indeed look like Sessions.
I nominate cleek to sidle up to Sessions and offer him a walnetto.
I’ll even contribute to his bail.
I nominate cleek to sidle up to Sessions and offer him a walnetto.
I’ll even contribute to his bail.
I’m *pretty sure* it’s perfectly legal to install and underground document storage bunker, with really strong doors and an alarm system that triggers sprinklers to flood all the “documents-with-soluble-ink” contained within.
Doing so after I’ve already been put on notice that the FBI is investigating me for being in bed with the Russians? Still legal? IOKIYAR.
If the docs are evidence of criminal activity, then its obstruction of justice. The problem is proving the content of the docs after they’ve been destroyed. I hope your system doesn’t miss anything. That would be problematic for you.
I’m *pretty sure* it’s perfectly legal to install and underground document storage bunker, with really strong doors and an alarm system that triggers sprinklers to flood all the “documents-with-soluble-ink” contained within.
Doing so after I’ve already been put on notice that the FBI is investigating me for being in bed with the Russians? Still legal? IOKIYAR.
If the docs are evidence of criminal activity, then its obstruction of justice. The problem is proving the content of the docs after they’ve been destroyed. I hope your system doesn’t miss anything. That would be problematic for you.
McKinney, I’ve come across the following:
It seems like the firing of Comey could be seen as a threat to anyone involved in the investigation.
Not, perhaps, an effective threat. But I don’t think that matters. Does it? (I do note that it doesn’t say “seeks to”. So perhaps it does matter whether the threat is successful.)
Comment?
McKinney, I’ve come across the following:
It seems like the firing of Comey could be seen as a threat to anyone involved in the investigation.
Not, perhaps, an effective threat. But I don’t think that matters. Does it? (I do note that it doesn’t say “seeks to”. So perhaps it does matter whether the threat is successful.)
Comment?
BJ gets a twofer:
FBI is raiding the offices of an Alexandria GOP fundraiser. and the NY State AG has a grand jury ready to investigate Trump’s biz.
i’m sure Trump’s businesses are AOK #1 squeaky-clean.
this should be fun.
BJ gets a twofer:
FBI is raiding the offices of an Alexandria GOP fundraiser. and the NY State AG has a grand jury ready to investigate Trump’s biz.
i’m sure Trump’s businesses are AOK #1 squeaky-clean.
this should be fun.
I wasn’t thinking so much of Henry Gibson (who was a splendid actor), as the character in the movie… who just seems perfect.
I wasn’t thinking so much of Henry Gibson (who was a splendid actor), as the character in the movie… who just seems perfect.
I’d have to say if trump told Comey to shut down the investigation of me/my campaign or I will fire you and when Comey refused trump fired him, seems to me you’d have a good case for obstruction.
I’d have to say if trump told Comey to shut down the investigation of me/my campaign or I will fire you and when Comey refused trump fired him, seems to me you’d have a good case for obstruction.
Comment?
If Trump had threatened to fire Comey to compel him to act differently with respect to a pending investigation, that might fall within the statute. He didn’t threaten anyone. He just fired Comey. You are asking about someone who might say “I felt threatened after Comey got fired” but that isn’t being threatened by a third party. That is someone’s subjective sense of what might happen in the future. Moreover, even if feeling threatened was sufficient, there would still need to be evidence that causing that person to feel threatened ‘influenced, obstructed, impeded’ or ‘attempted/endeavored to influence, obstruct or impede’ a ‘pending proceeding’ as defined by the statute. Seems like a reach to me. And really subject to abuse.
Comment?
If Trump had threatened to fire Comey to compel him to act differently with respect to a pending investigation, that might fall within the statute. He didn’t threaten anyone. He just fired Comey. You are asking about someone who might say “I felt threatened after Comey got fired” but that isn’t being threatened by a third party. That is someone’s subjective sense of what might happen in the future. Moreover, even if feeling threatened was sufficient, there would still need to be evidence that causing that person to feel threatened ‘influenced, obstructed, impeded’ or ‘attempted/endeavored to influence, obstruct or impede’ a ‘pending proceeding’ as defined by the statute. Seems like a reach to me. And really subject to abuse.
McK, thanks for the clarification.
McK, thanks for the clarification.
Anyone remember the Nazi leader in the Blues Brothers film ?
Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis.
Anyone remember the Nazi leader in the Blues Brothers film ?
Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis.
This article addresses the points McKinney makes far better than I could manage myself:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/two-dead-canaries-in-the-coal-mine/526230/
This article addresses the points McKinney makes far better than I could manage myself:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/two-dead-canaries-in-the-coal-mine/526230/
I’d have to say if trump told Comey to shut down the investigation of me/my campaign or I will fire you and when Comey refused trump fired him, seems to me you’d have a good case for obstruction.
Seems that way to me too, but I wonder–as a matter of jurisprudence–whether threatening to perform an otherwise lawful act can be the basis for a criminal prosecution. Or, suppose that Comey, like me, has a pathological aversion to Barry Manilow songs. Would threatening to pipe “Mandy” endlessly into Comey’s office if he persisted in investigating Trump be obstruction or just really, really mean?
I’d have to say if trump told Comey to shut down the investigation of me/my campaign or I will fire you and when Comey refused trump fired him, seems to me you’d have a good case for obstruction.
Seems that way to me too, but I wonder–as a matter of jurisprudence–whether threatening to perform an otherwise lawful act can be the basis for a criminal prosecution. Or, suppose that Comey, like me, has a pathological aversion to Barry Manilow songs. Would threatening to pipe “Mandy” endlessly into Comey’s office if he persisted in investigating Trump be obstruction or just really, really mean?
Would threatening to pipe “Mandy” endlessly into Comey’s office if he persisted in investigating Trump be obstruction or just really, really mean?
Depends, I suppose, on whether you could show real damage from that kind of harassment. If it drove Comey clinically insane, then obstruction. If it just “made him crazy”, merely mean.
As for firing per se, threatening to fire Comey would not be obstruction, legally — no matter Trump’s intent, I suppose. But if he threatens to fire the career agents engaged in the probe? (Not that he has authority to, which they probably know, even though he probably has no clue.) That might be another story.
Would threatening to pipe “Mandy” endlessly into Comey’s office if he persisted in investigating Trump be obstruction or just really, really mean?
Depends, I suppose, on whether you could show real damage from that kind of harassment. If it drove Comey clinically insane, then obstruction. If it just “made him crazy”, merely mean.
As for firing per se, threatening to fire Comey would not be obstruction, legally — no matter Trump’s intent, I suppose. But if he threatens to fire the career agents engaged in the probe? (Not that he has authority to, which they probably know, even though he probably has no clue.) That might be another story.
McKT wrote:
“He didn’t threaten anyone. He just fired Comey. You are asking about someone who might say “I felt threatened after Comey got fired” but that isn’t being threatened by a third party.”
“Or, suppose that Comey, like me, has a pathological aversion to Barry Manilow songs. Would threatening to pipe “Mandy” endlessly into Comey’s office if he persisted in investigating Trump be obstruction or just really, really mean?”
Consider who the “third party” is who personally delivered the termination letter to Comey. A second-rate cop elevated to personal goon bodyguard to trump and now his main and maybe his only confidante and consiglieri.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/who-is-keith-schiller/
Everyone knows THAT messenger is not to be fucked with.
A horse’s head in Comey’s bed might have broken a few local sanitation and animal welfare ordinances, but show me where obstruction of justice could be proven?
Now, if we hear that Schiller pulled aside the curtain in Comey’s office and directed the FBI Director’s gaze to the street below where Barry Manilow stood accompanied by 612-piece orchestra ready to launch into “Copacabana” and Schiller said “Let’s just say Mr Manilow is the President’s favorite, shall we?
He brings a tear to the boss’s eye. Nuff said?”, who will be surprised?
Hell, Nixon had to go through Elliot Richardson and Ruckleshaus before he found his loyalist thug to carry out the hit on Archibald Cox: Robert (The Shiv) Bork.
Nothing obviously illegal or even amounting to obstruction of justice. But this is where trump is street smart, tough, and ruthless, resulting from a life of getting his way with muscle, applied right up to the edge of illegality, with unlikely subtlety, considering the man’s tasteless hamfistedness.
There has never been anything like this guy with his hands on the levers of power in this country. (read Nigel’s link at 4:02pm for a taste).
And comparisons to any other half-wit hack who has occupied the White House over the past 240 years are the pathetic ravings of dupes and nebbishes.
Trump thinks with his scrotum, like the end-justifies-the-means operator he has fashioned himself to be.
More on Schiller.
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-keith-schiller-taxes-irs-flynn-crowley-white-house-foreclosure-567860
Schiller will be at trump’s side at Mar-A-Lago when the Secret Service and Federal Marshals break down the penthouse door, bullets flying, and remove this fuck from office.
Sessions will be weeping in a heap in the corner of the room, claiming he was coerced into loyalty, the little cracker filth.
McKT wrote:
“He didn’t threaten anyone. He just fired Comey. You are asking about someone who might say “I felt threatened after Comey got fired” but that isn’t being threatened by a third party.”
“Or, suppose that Comey, like me, has a pathological aversion to Barry Manilow songs. Would threatening to pipe “Mandy” endlessly into Comey’s office if he persisted in investigating Trump be obstruction or just really, really mean?”
Consider who the “third party” is who personally delivered the termination letter to Comey. A second-rate cop elevated to personal goon bodyguard to trump and now his main and maybe his only confidante and consiglieri.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/who-is-keith-schiller/
Everyone knows THAT messenger is not to be fucked with.
A horse’s head in Comey’s bed might have broken a few local sanitation and animal welfare ordinances, but show me where obstruction of justice could be proven?
Now, if we hear that Schiller pulled aside the curtain in Comey’s office and directed the FBI Director’s gaze to the street below where Barry Manilow stood accompanied by 612-piece orchestra ready to launch into “Copacabana” and Schiller said “Let’s just say Mr Manilow is the President’s favorite, shall we?
He brings a tear to the boss’s eye. Nuff said?”, who will be surprised?
Hell, Nixon had to go through Elliot Richardson and Ruckleshaus before he found his loyalist thug to carry out the hit on Archibald Cox: Robert (The Shiv) Bork.
Nothing obviously illegal or even amounting to obstruction of justice. But this is where trump is street smart, tough, and ruthless, resulting from a life of getting his way with muscle, applied right up to the edge of illegality, with unlikely subtlety, considering the man’s tasteless hamfistedness.
There has never been anything like this guy with his hands on the levers of power in this country. (read Nigel’s link at 4:02pm for a taste).
And comparisons to any other half-wit hack who has occupied the White House over the past 240 years are the pathetic ravings of dupes and nebbishes.
Trump thinks with his scrotum, like the end-justifies-the-means operator he has fashioned himself to be.
More on Schiller.
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-keith-schiller-taxes-irs-flynn-crowley-white-house-foreclosure-567860
Schiller will be at trump’s side at Mar-A-Lago when the Secret Service and Federal Marshals break down the penthouse door, bullets flying, and remove this fuck from office.
Sessions will be weeping in a heap in the corner of the room, claiming he was coerced into loyalty, the little cracker filth.
We don’t know if Trump threatened Comey. Neither does McTx.
What we DO know, because Trump put it in an official memo is that Trump asked Comey:
“Are you investigating me?”
No.
“Are you investigating me?”
No.
“ARE YOU INVESTIGATING ME???”
No.
No implied threat at all to be found there, you betcha.
We don’t know if Trump threatened Comey. Neither does McTx.
What we DO know, because Trump put it in an official memo is that Trump asked Comey:
“Are you investigating me?”
No.
“Are you investigating me?”
No.
“ARE YOU INVESTIGATING ME???”
No.
No implied threat at all to be found there, you betcha.
Another opinion on the obstruction of justice issue here:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/05/obstruction-justice-getting-closer-all-time
What if the third time trump asked comey if the former was under investigation, he put it this way: “I’m going to ask you a third and last time, Mr. Comey, if I am under investigation by your office. Think your answer over very carefully, because I can’t be responsible for what happens, not that anything is going to happen.”
And then hummed a little Manilow.
What, you’re telling me all of those shady deals with shady people over a shady lifetime got done with a handshake?
Finally, I’m under no illusion about the pious Pence who can’t dine alone with a woman not his wife because his sheer good lucks might fertilize her eggs. As President, he and the congressional republicans will kill more Americans than trump has dreamt of because they’ve been trying to do it together as a team for two or three decades, while trump isn’t quite sure about the small print involved in such an undertaking.
Impeachment is just the beginning of what needs to happen.
Another opinion on the obstruction of justice issue here:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/05/obstruction-justice-getting-closer-all-time
What if the third time trump asked comey if the former was under investigation, he put it this way: “I’m going to ask you a third and last time, Mr. Comey, if I am under investigation by your office. Think your answer over very carefully, because I can’t be responsible for what happens, not that anything is going to happen.”
And then hummed a little Manilow.
What, you’re telling me all of those shady deals with shady people over a shady lifetime got done with a handshake?
Finally, I’m under no illusion about the pious Pence who can’t dine alone with a woman not his wife because his sheer good lucks might fertilize her eggs. As President, he and the congressional republicans will kill more Americans than trump has dreamt of because they’ve been trying to do it together as a team for two or three decades, while trump isn’t quite sure about the small print involved in such an undertaking.
Impeachment is just the beginning of what needs to happen.
McKinney,
Suppose we are old college buddies. You send me a handwritten letter in which you happen to mention your secret mistress. I call you to say that I’m torn: I’ve known your wife almost as long as I’ve known you, and I feel maybe I should tell her about your paramour. You try to talk me out of it. I mention that I could use ten grand and ask if you, as an old friend, could lend it to me. We end our chat with you agreeing to send me a check and me agreeing to burn your letter.
Is forwarding a letter illegal? Is asking for a loan illegal? Is blackmail legal?
On the flip side: is making an unsecured loan illegal? Would your wife, if she ever learned the whole story, consider either you or me to have obstructed justice? Her wifely idea of justice, I mean:)
–TP
McKinney,
Suppose we are old college buddies. You send me a handwritten letter in which you happen to mention your secret mistress. I call you to say that I’m torn: I’ve known your wife almost as long as I’ve known you, and I feel maybe I should tell her about your paramour. You try to talk me out of it. I mention that I could use ten grand and ask if you, as an old friend, could lend it to me. We end our chat with you agreeing to send me a check and me agreeing to burn your letter.
Is forwarding a letter illegal? Is asking for a loan illegal? Is blackmail legal?
On the flip side: is making an unsecured loan illegal? Would your wife, if she ever learned the whole story, consider either you or me to have obstructed justice? Her wifely idea of justice, I mean:)
–TP
Tony P. Best me to the extortion example. Two legal acts when done in conjunction can be I believe criminal. Give me $1000 or I go to the press about X, it being legal to go to the press and ask for $1000 independently.
Tony P. Best me to the extortion example. Two legal acts when done in conjunction can be I believe criminal. Give me $1000 or I go to the press about X, it being legal to go to the press and ask for $1000 independently.
Trump essentially said he fired Comey to put an end to the investigation.
Trump essentially said he fired Comey to put an end to the investigation.
“Trump essentially said he fired Comey to put an end to the investigation.”
No he didn’t. He didn’t essentially say it. He didn’t kind of say it. He didn’t maybe say it. He didn’t hint at it. He didnt say any words that might have been reasonably misinterpreted to mean it.
He just didn’t.
Nor is any investigation stopped.
“Trump essentially said he fired Comey to put an end to the investigation.”
No he didn’t. He didn’t essentially say it. He didn’t kind of say it. He didn’t maybe say it. He didn’t hint at it. He didnt say any words that might have been reasonably misinterpreted to mean it.
He just didn’t.
Nor is any investigation stopped.
Oh yes he did:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-president-admits-to-obstruction-on-national-tv
Oh yes he did:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-president-admits-to-obstruction-on-national-tv
Marty,
You are entitled to act stupid. You are not entitled to pretend that the rest of us are stupid.
Just like one doesn’t have to explicitly say “n*gger, n*gger, n*gger” to “essentially” reveal himself to be a racist, He, Trump does not have to explicitly say “I fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation” before not-stupid people conclude that he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation.
BTW: the analogy is based on this South Park clip.
–TP
Marty,
You are entitled to act stupid. You are not entitled to pretend that the rest of us are stupid.
Just like one doesn’t have to explicitly say “n*gger, n*gger, n*gger” to “essentially” reveal himself to be a racist, He, Trump does not have to explicitly say “I fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation” before not-stupid people conclude that he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation.
BTW: the analogy is based on this South Park clip.
–TP
Trump Demanded Loyalty. Comey Demurred:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html
Trump Demanded Loyalty. Comey Demurred:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html
he shoulda stuck with the real estate and the TV show, he did well with that stuff. all you have to do to win in those worlds is make more money than you lose.
he’s playing in a different league now. he doesn’t understand how it works. people won’t do what he tells them to. he can’t fire them all, and every time he does fire someone, everybody gives him crap.
as if they were entitled to an opinion about it. unbelievable.
he has to rely on people who aren’t named trump, and he doesn’t know if he can trust them. he shouldn’t trust them. they’d throw him under the bus in a heartbeat.
it’s a whole different breed of sharks he’s swimming with now. he finds, to his great surprise, that he is vulnerable. what a shock, at age 70.
if he wasn’t responsible for things that are really important to me, I’d feel bad for him. as it is, I just want to see the back of him.
a loser, in the end. in over his head. be careful what you wish for.
he shoulda stuck with the real estate and the TV show, he did well with that stuff. all you have to do to win in those worlds is make more money than you lose.
he’s playing in a different league now. he doesn’t understand how it works. people won’t do what he tells them to. he can’t fire them all, and every time he does fire someone, everybody gives him crap.
as if they were entitled to an opinion about it. unbelievable.
he has to rely on people who aren’t named trump, and he doesn’t know if he can trust them. he shouldn’t trust them. they’d throw him under the bus in a heartbeat.
it’s a whole different breed of sharks he’s swimming with now. he finds, to his great surprise, that he is vulnerable. what a shock, at age 70.
if he wasn’t responsible for things that are really important to me, I’d feel bad for him. as it is, I just want to see the back of him.
a loser, in the end. in over his head. be careful what you wish for.
From Mr Trump in an interview with NBC news:
Which sounds pretty close to a flat out statement that Comey’s firing was about the Russia investigation.
From Mr Trump in an interview with NBC news:
Which sounds pretty close to a flat out statement that Comey’s firing was about the Russia investigation.
the thing is, I wouldn’t be surprised if trump fired him because the Russia thing was annoying him, without having any clue that it would be seen as questionable.
the guy works for me, he’s not doing what I want him to. i cut him loose. what’s the problem?
however this all lands, if will be tough to tease apart the illegal (if any) from the merely profoundly clueless.
it’s like a presidency scripted by aeschylus.
the thing is, I wouldn’t be surprised if trump fired him because the Russia thing was annoying him, without having any clue that it would be seen as questionable.
the guy works for me, he’s not doing what I want him to. i cut him loose. what’s the problem?
however this all lands, if will be tough to tease apart the illegal (if any) from the merely profoundly clueless.
it’s like a presidency scripted by aeschylus.
This whole thread reads like a Redstate birthers discussion.
It is what we say because we hate him. Not a fact, just an opinion supported by anything that’s said or done because we want it to be true.
And Tony, as many times in the last few months as I have been called stupid you can keep that claptrap to yourself.
Every day for the 6voclock news they make sure they roll out another story, today’s was about a meeting Coney and Trump had six months ago where another unnamed source said that something was said that can be construed to fit the narrative.
Sane people are watching this and worried not about Trump destroying the country but the press and the left destroying it in the name of saving it from Trump.
No, only the wildest conspiracy hound could read the highlighted part and twist it to the conclusion here.
But that is truly irrelevant because tomorrow night at 6 pm there will be another story to keep the masses stirred up.
This whole thread reads like a Redstate birthers discussion.
It is what we say because we hate him. Not a fact, just an opinion supported by anything that’s said or done because we want it to be true.
And Tony, as many times in the last few months as I have been called stupid you can keep that claptrap to yourself.
Every day for the 6voclock news they make sure they roll out another story, today’s was about a meeting Coney and Trump had six months ago where another unnamed source said that something was said that can be construed to fit the narrative.
Sane people are watching this and worried not about Trump destroying the country but the press and the left destroying it in the name of saving it from Trump.
No, only the wildest conspiracy hound could read the highlighted part and twist it to the conclusion here.
But that is truly irrelevant because tomorrow night at 6 pm there will be another story to keep the masses stirred up.
Hmmmm ,,,, Birthers never had their suppositions confirmed. In fact, they were soundly contradicted. I guess we’ll see how looney we’re all being in the relatively near future. I’ll be keeping this in mind, Marty, as more comes to light. Crow’s going to be on someone’s plate. Yum!!!
Hmmmm ,,,, Birthers never had their suppositions confirmed. In fact, they were soundly contradicted. I guess we’ll see how looney we’re all being in the relatively near future. I’ll be keeping this in mind, Marty, as more comes to light. Crow’s going to be on someone’s plate. Yum!!!
Setting aside Trump, for a moment, have does the AG justify his involvement in the dismissal of the man leading the Russia investigation, given that he had formally recused himself from anything to do with said investigation ?
That is unequivocally a legal question. One which is made more pointed by his public testimony last year:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/05/what_role_did_jeff_sessions_play_in_james_comey_s_firing.html
What went into Sessions’ “evaluation”? We have no idea. We do know that at least one of the “reasons expressed by the Deputy Attorney General”—that Comey erred when he announced, 11 days before the election, that the FBI was reopening its probe into Clinton’s emails—is at odds with comments Sessions has made in the past. As Reason’s Jacob Sullum points out, Sessions said last October that Comey—after testifying before Congress about his decision to close the Clinton investigation in July—“had an absolute duty, in my opinion, 11 days or not, to come forward with the new information that he has and let the American people know that.”
Setting aside Trump, for a moment, have does the AG justify his involvement in the dismissal of the man leading the Russia investigation, given that he had formally recused himself from anything to do with said investigation ?
That is unequivocally a legal question. One which is made more pointed by his public testimony last year:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/05/what_role_did_jeff_sessions_play_in_james_comey_s_firing.html
What went into Sessions’ “evaluation”? We have no idea. We do know that at least one of the “reasons expressed by the Deputy Attorney General”—that Comey erred when he announced, 11 days before the election, that the FBI was reopening its probe into Clinton’s emails—is at odds with comments Sessions has made in the past. As Reason’s Jacob Sullum points out, Sessions said last October that Comey—after testifying before Congress about his decision to close the Clinton investigation in July—“had an absolute duty, in my opinion, 11 days or not, to come forward with the new information that he has and let the American people know that.”
“Not a fact”
actually there is a pretty long list of facts which deserve explanation.
and leaving the whole russia thing aside, the man and his family treat the office like a freaking ATM. violating the emoluments clause is a more or less daily event.
as far as “hating trump”, for myself, I don’t hate him. he sort of amuses me. he’s kind of a classic NYC style rich asshole blowhard. I miss that vibe, Boston folks don’t really do the larger than life thing in quite the same way. it’s like old home week.
I do hate that he’s the potus, because it’s an embarrassment to me as an american. and I receive his presence in that office as an insult and an offense, because many if not most of his supporters intend his presence there to be exactly that.
to people like me.
“fuck your feelings”, say his fans. fine, back atcha, pal. conversation over.
and frankly, after years of you talking about Obama the tyrant and Clinton the world historical epitome of corruption and evil, your opinion of my thoughts about Trump are simply not of interest.
I want to see tax returns. I want a blind trust, and if that means he loses money tough shit. i want him answerable to the emoluments clause for IP deals he”s made with the Chinese, the Phillipines, and others since taking office.
I want him to surrender his lease on the PO building in DC, which he violates every single day.
I want his son in law to quit trading US visas for investments in his real estate business. seriously, wtf.
I want to know who Flynn was working for. I want to know what page, manafort, and stone were up to in Russia and the ukraine. I want to know whose idea it was to take sanctions on russia off the GOP platform. I want to know wtf sessions and sislyak chatted about.
if you don’t want those things, then more fool you. I’m tempted to say you should wise up, but for whatever reasons of your own you apparently wont, so I’m not going there.
and funny you should mention the whole birther thing in this context, don’t you think?
best of luck to you.
“Not a fact”
actually there is a pretty long list of facts which deserve explanation.
and leaving the whole russia thing aside, the man and his family treat the office like a freaking ATM. violating the emoluments clause is a more or less daily event.
as far as “hating trump”, for myself, I don’t hate him. he sort of amuses me. he’s kind of a classic NYC style rich asshole blowhard. I miss that vibe, Boston folks don’t really do the larger than life thing in quite the same way. it’s like old home week.
I do hate that he’s the potus, because it’s an embarrassment to me as an american. and I receive his presence in that office as an insult and an offense, because many if not most of his supporters intend his presence there to be exactly that.
to people like me.
“fuck your feelings”, say his fans. fine, back atcha, pal. conversation over.
and frankly, after years of you talking about Obama the tyrant and Clinton the world historical epitome of corruption and evil, your opinion of my thoughts about Trump are simply not of interest.
I want to see tax returns. I want a blind trust, and if that means he loses money tough shit. i want him answerable to the emoluments clause for IP deals he”s made with the Chinese, the Phillipines, and others since taking office.
I want him to surrender his lease on the PO building in DC, which he violates every single day.
I want his son in law to quit trading US visas for investments in his real estate business. seriously, wtf.
I want to know who Flynn was working for. I want to know what page, manafort, and stone were up to in Russia and the ukraine. I want to know whose idea it was to take sanctions on russia off the GOP platform. I want to know wtf sessions and sislyak chatted about.
if you don’t want those things, then more fool you. I’m tempted to say you should wise up, but for whatever reasons of your own you apparently wont, so I’m not going there.
and funny you should mention the whole birther thing in this context, don’t you think?
best of luck to you.
hah, I’m not sure what crow I will eat. I’m perfectly aware that an investigation may turn up a link to Russia.
I just opened msn, my default browser page, and 8 of the first nine stories were opinion pieces on why Trump may have done something wrong. I loved the one titled Critics say Trump is bad. 4 of them were from the NY times.
What I would like, russell, is a discussion that was reasonable enough that we could discuss your list. Yep I would like to see his tax returns, i dont have any sense for his actual gifts received/ip stuff, Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense, in my world everybody talks all the time about investor visas, it’s a standard vc pitch and I know qukte a few guys who moved their company headquarters here to get one,and frankly, “fuck your feelings” is a pretty standard line from the liberal commentators here, usually framed in some derogatory way using the term “fee-fees” so “back at ya” is a little rich.
hah, I’m not sure what crow I will eat. I’m perfectly aware that an investigation may turn up a link to Russia.
I just opened msn, my default browser page, and 8 of the first nine stories were opinion pieces on why Trump may have done something wrong. I loved the one titled Critics say Trump is bad. 4 of them were from the NY times.
What I would like, russell, is a discussion that was reasonable enough that we could discuss your list. Yep I would like to see his tax returns, i dont have any sense for his actual gifts received/ip stuff, Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense, in my world everybody talks all the time about investor visas, it’s a standard vc pitch and I know qukte a few guys who moved their company headquarters here to get one,and frankly, “fuck your feelings” is a pretty standard line from the liberal commentators here, usually framed in some derogatory way using the term “fee-fees” so “back at ya” is a little rich.
Trump Demanded Loyalty. Comey Demurred:
butbutbutbutbut…..
who you gonna believe, Comey or a guy who can’t go five words without lying about something?
Trump Demanded Loyalty. Comey Demurred:
butbutbutbutbut…..
who you gonna believe, Comey or a guy who can’t go five words without lying about something?
Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense
That’s what makes it so unfair that Trump was forced to run for president.
Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense
That’s what makes it so unfair that Trump was forced to run for president.
I predict, before the midterm elections, that Marty will have fully transformed from a #NeverTrump’er to a #TrumpÜberAlles’er, just because sticking it to the ‘liberals’ that dislike Trump is the most important thing.
How does it feel to be Cleek’s puppet, dancing to Cleek’s Law?
I predict, before the midterm elections, that Marty will have fully transformed from a #NeverTrump’er to a #TrumpÜberAlles’er, just because sticking it to the ‘liberals’ that dislike Trump is the most important thing.
How does it feel to be Cleek’s puppet, dancing to Cleek’s Law?
So let’s see:
1. Muslim Ban
2. Ramp up in ICE enforcement.
3. Border wall
4. Return of the drug war
5. Vote suppression commission
6. Increased utilization of private prisons
7. Backing off consent decrees with local PDs
8. AHCA
9. Proposed massive corporate & wealthy individual tax cuts
The Trump administration and it’s Congressional lackeys have declared war on black, brown and poor people. The transformation of the Party of Lincoln is complete, it is essentially the white supremacy party in all but name.
So let’s see:
1. Muslim Ban
2. Ramp up in ICE enforcement.
3. Border wall
4. Return of the drug war
5. Vote suppression commission
6. Increased utilization of private prisons
7. Backing off consent decrees with local PDs
8. AHCA
9. Proposed massive corporate & wealthy individual tax cuts
The Trump administration and it’s Congressional lackeys have declared war on black, brown and poor people. The transformation of the Party of Lincoln is complete, it is essentially the white supremacy party in all but name.
But that is truly irrelevant because tomorrow night at 6 pm there will be another story to keep the masses stirred up.
You mean to say it won’t be about Hillary’s emails? I am so disappointed.
Put him in jail
Put him in jail….
hahahahaha
But that is truly irrelevant because tomorrow night at 6 pm there will be another story to keep the masses stirred up.
You mean to say it won’t be about Hillary’s emails? I am so disappointed.
Put him in jail
Put him in jail….
hahahahaha
The current GOP leadership in Congress would not vote for the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Equal Pay Act, or the 16th, 23rd, and 24th Amendments. Probably the 14th, 15th, 16th and 19th as well (and if I’m really cynical, parts of the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th).
You watch as they blow through all the Senatorial norms and rules as the Democrats attempt to slow things down to get some kind of Russia/Comey investigation. Grassley already making noises that he’s going to ignore Dem “blue slips” on circuit judges.
The current GOP leadership in Congress would not vote for the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Equal Pay Act, or the 16th, 23rd, and 24th Amendments. Probably the 14th, 15th, 16th and 19th as well (and if I’m really cynical, parts of the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th).
You watch as they blow through all the Senatorial norms and rules as the Democrats attempt to slow things down to get some kind of Russia/Comey investigation. Grassley already making noises that he’s going to ignore Dem “blue slips” on circuit judges.
just because sticking it to the ‘liberals’ that dislike Trump is the most important thing.
that’s definitely the vibe i’m getting.
just because sticking it to the ‘liberals’ that dislike Trump is the most important thing.
that’s definitely the vibe i’m getting.
Someone will point out that they routinely voted to re-up the Voting Rights Act, but what have they done since SCOTUS gutted it in Shelby County*?
Not only nothing, but the state level GOP immediately started enacting vote suppression measures, which appear highly successful where they have not been struck down by federal courts.
*Shelby Country being in the top 2 or 3 worst SCOTUS decisions in the past 25 years, possibly longer.
Someone will point out that they routinely voted to re-up the Voting Rights Act, but what have they done since SCOTUS gutted it in Shelby County*?
Not only nothing, but the state level GOP immediately started enacting vote suppression measures, which appear highly successful where they have not been struck down by federal courts.
*Shelby Country being in the top 2 or 3 worst SCOTUS decisions in the past 25 years, possibly longer.
I just opened msn
aha, now I see the problem! 🙂
Yep I would like to see his tax returns
you and I both. the man is a serial bankrupt with criminal business associates.
i dont have any sense for his actual gifts received/ip stuff
ip rights to the trump name in china. sought and denied for about 10 years, suddenly granted after the election.
go-aheads for hotel development in the phillipines with government positions granted to his business parthers.
similar deals for ivanka.
Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense
then you don’t get to be potus.
that’s just one of several good government practices that deserve the weight of law, now that we have the precedent of someone being arrogant enough to ignore them.
like, for example, ‘the potus can’t have a conflict of interest’.
in my world everybody talks all the time about investor visas
are you trading on your ability to offer them based on your family connection to the potus?
frankly, “fuck your feelings” is a pretty standard line from the liberal commentators here
dead fair, and noted
“back at ya” is a little rich.
“back atcha” was directed to the fine folks sporting the famous t shirt, who I doubt include you.
I just opened msn
aha, now I see the problem! 🙂
Yep I would like to see his tax returns
you and I both. the man is a serial bankrupt with criminal business associates.
i dont have any sense for his actual gifts received/ip stuff
ip rights to the trump name in china. sought and denied for about 10 years, suddenly granted after the election.
go-aheads for hotel development in the phillipines with government positions granted to his business parthers.
similar deals for ivanka.
Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense
then you don’t get to be potus.
that’s just one of several good government practices that deserve the weight of law, now that we have the precedent of someone being arrogant enough to ignore them.
like, for example, ‘the potus can’t have a conflict of interest’.
in my world everybody talks all the time about investor visas
are you trading on your ability to offer them based on your family connection to the potus?
frankly, “fuck your feelings” is a pretty standard line from the liberal commentators here
dead fair, and noted
“back at ya” is a little rich.
“back atcha” was directed to the fine folks sporting the famous t shirt, who I doubt include you.
drip, drip, drip.
drip, drip, drip.
It’s still possible to derive a modicum of amusement about all this, despite the general apallingness. I don’t know how I missed the story of Sean Spicer hiding in the bushes, it must be because Tuesday/Wednesday were particularly pressured for me, but I have just spotted this, and it gave me great pleasure:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sean-spicer-hide-bushes-white-house-press-secretary-reporters-james-comey-hedge-a7731796.html
particularly this part:
It’s still possible to derive a modicum of amusement about all this, despite the general apallingness. I don’t know how I missed the story of Sean Spicer hiding in the bushes, it must be because Tuesday/Wednesday were particularly pressured for me, but I have just spotted this, and it gave me great pleasure:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sean-spicer-hide-bushes-white-house-press-secretary-reporters-james-comey-hedge-a7731796.html
particularly this part:
“In the general vicinity of the bush-like plants that may or may not have been azaleas, which we can neither confirm nor deny.”
“In the general vicinity of the bush-like plants that may or may not have been azaleas, which we can neither confirm nor deny.”
how many times has Chump changed his story on this in the past 36 hours? three, four times?
but note that he is still lying about it, since the investigation into his collusion started well before the election. he is simply incapable of communicating the truth.
but, yes, liberals think he should go – so it all evens out.
how many times has Chump changed his story on this in the past 36 hours? three, four times?
but note that he is still lying about it, since the investigation into his collusion started well before the election. he is simply incapable of communicating the truth.
but, yes, liberals think he should go – so it all evens out.
Marty:
nope, nothing to see here:
they’re going to make you look stupid, Marty.
Marty:
nope, nothing to see here:
they’re going to make you look stupid, Marty.
If only Sean Spicer or Sarah Sanders were running the investigation that might be true cleek but, as Hillary(and Nixon) will attest to, investigations take on a life of their own despite the most fervent hopes of their targets. Comey wasnt investigating anything and the real professionals doing it most likely redoubled their efforts.
The only way I see that would make that not true is if the lower level folks had already concluded there was no smoking gun. Then they might ease off just because Coney isn’t there to demand action.
My money is on the first one.
If only Sean Spicer or Sarah Sanders were running the investigation that might be true cleek but, as Hillary(and Nixon) will attest to, investigations take on a life of their own despite the most fervent hopes of their targets. Comey wasnt investigating anything and the real professionals doing it most likely redoubled their efforts.
The only way I see that would make that not true is if the lower level folks had already concluded there was no smoking gun. Then they might ease off just because Coney isn’t there to demand action.
My money is on the first one.
If only Sean Spicer or Sarah Sanders were running the investigation that might be true cleek
go read my 9:36. Trump himself has todl reporters, multiple times now, that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.
of course, we can’t trust anything Trump says, so maybe he did it because Comey wouldn’t pledge his loyalty, or wouldn’t pick up the check, or said he was ‘mildly nauseous’ that he might have helped Clinton lose.
the real professionals doing it most likely redoubled their efforts
hopefully. alternately, they could decide to work on other things, after seeing what happened to Comey.
now that the FBI is on notice about where its politics should be, all kinds of wonderful things can happen.
but, yes, Obama.
If only Sean Spicer or Sarah Sanders were running the investigation that might be true cleek
go read my 9:36. Trump himself has todl reporters, multiple times now, that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.
of course, we can’t trust anything Trump says, so maybe he did it because Comey wouldn’t pledge his loyalty, or wouldn’t pick up the check, or said he was ‘mildly nauseous’ that he might have helped Clinton lose.
the real professionals doing it most likely redoubled their efforts
hopefully. alternately, they could decide to work on other things, after seeing what happened to Comey.
now that the FBI is on notice about where its politics should be, all kinds of wonderful things can happen.
but, yes, Obama.
russell, on the ip rights stuff I have mixed feelings, i dont think he should profit from being President but i am not sure I would expect his companies, in a blind trust or run by his kids or whatever, to say no thanks. I don’t like it and it clearly is a challenge. It is likely the largest conflict I have internally.
I have come to think Kushner needs to be replaced along with Bannon. I initially thought he and Ivanka would temper Trump somewhat, and still believe that about Ivanka. Kushner seems to me to be the person most trying to leverage his position for personal gain.
That said, what he actually said about the investor/founder visas didn’t require access to the Presidency to deliver. It is actually a pretty easy, as those things go, visa to get.
russell, on the ip rights stuff I have mixed feelings, i dont think he should profit from being President but i am not sure I would expect his companies, in a blind trust or run by his kids or whatever, to say no thanks. I don’t like it and it clearly is a challenge. It is likely the largest conflict I have internally.
I have come to think Kushner needs to be replaced along with Bannon. I initially thought he and Ivanka would temper Trump somewhat, and still believe that about Ivanka. Kushner seems to me to be the person most trying to leverage his position for personal gain.
That said, what he actually said about the investor/founder visas didn’t require access to the Presidency to deliver. It is actually a pretty easy, as those things go, visa to get.
Not exactly on topic, but Trump’s AG stopped paying attention circa 1983. He was already a relic culturally when MTV was the hot, new thing. What does that make him now, other than retrograde? (Is there an illustration of him in the dictionary under the entry for “cracker”?)
Not exactly on topic, but Trump’s AG stopped paying attention circa 1983. He was already a relic culturally when MTV was the hot, new thing. What does that make him now, other than retrograde? (Is there an illustration of him in the dictionary under the entry for “cracker”?)
hsh, your AG link appears not to be working.
hsh, your AG link appears not to be working.
Hmm. It appears they truncate the URL after the page loads, so what I copied into my link wasn’t the full URL. But I think I fooled them this time (or at least didn’t let them fool me).
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/447583/sessions-digging-deeper-hole
Hmm. It appears they truncate the URL after the page loads, so what I copied into my link wasn’t the full URL. But I think I fooled them this time (or at least didn’t let them fool me).
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/447583/sessions-digging-deeper-hole
Also, too, I know the Drug War is near and dear to Marty (by which I mean he hates it), so I’m trying to pull him off the Trump train.
(I’m guessing Marty will say he’s not on the Trump train, but I think he at least chases it when goes by. At the very least, he put pennies on the rail to be flattened by it.)
Also, too, I know the Drug War is near and dear to Marty (by which I mean he hates it), so I’m trying to pull him off the Trump train.
(I’m guessing Marty will say he’s not on the Trump train, but I think he at least chases it when goes by. At the very least, he put pennies on the rail to be flattened by it.)
and this is just baffling:
Chump tweeteth:
did Trump just tell everyone that he keeps recording of his conversations? making this whole affair even more Nixonian (and causing everyone who has ever talked with him to shit themselves) ?
and publicly threatening a guy you just fired for not stopping an investigation into your election activities?
Nixonian? hell, that’s downright Obamian.
and this is just baffling:
Chump tweeteth:
did Trump just tell everyone that he keeps recording of his conversations? making this whole affair even more Nixonian (and causing everyone who has ever talked with him to shit themselves) ?
and publicly threatening a guy you just fired for not stopping an investigation into your election activities?
Nixonian? hell, that’s downright Obamian.
An interesting link, hairshirt…
Here’s a similar view from someone else decidedly not of the left – and decidedly not a libertarian, either:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/two-dead-canaries-in-the-coal-mine/526230/
Let me be blunt: The soft spot is not NSA and it’s not the drone program. The soft spot, the least tyrant-proof part of the government, is the U.S. Department of Justice and the larger law enforcement and regulatory apparatus of the United States government. The first reason you should fear a Donald Trump presidency is what he would do to the ordinary enforcement functions of the federal government, not the most extraordinary ones…
An interesting link, hairshirt…
Here’s a similar view from someone else decidedly not of the left – and decidedly not a libertarian, either:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/two-dead-canaries-in-the-coal-mine/526230/
Let me be blunt: The soft spot is not NSA and it’s not the drone program. The soft spot, the least tyrant-proof part of the government, is the U.S. Department of Justice and the larger law enforcement and regulatory apparatus of the United States government. The first reason you should fear a Donald Trump presidency is what he would do to the ordinary enforcement functions of the federal government, not the most extraordinary ones…
good link, Nigel.
good link, Nigel.
It is. (But reading it makes me anxious.)
It is. (But reading it makes me anxious.)
It is a good link, Nigel. This Frum piece is good too:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/this-is-not-a-drill/526056/
It is a good link, Nigel. This Frum piece is good too:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/this-is-not-a-drill/526056/
It is a good link, Nigel. This Frum piece is good too:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/this-is-not-a-drill/526056/
It is a good link, Nigel. This Frum piece is good too:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/this-is-not-a-drill/526056/
Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense
If you can’t stick your money in a blind trust, then you shouldn’t have run for President in the first place. (I’d say ditto for Congress, but then I have a thing about conflicts of interest.)
If it takes shutting down the business in order to do so, well so be it. It’s not like the man is going to the poor house, if his businesses get sold off and he never makes another dollar from them. (Is it? I suppose he could be bankrupt again….)
Im pretty sure you cant stick a few hundred million dollars worth of businesses in a blind trust in a practical sense
If you can’t stick your money in a blind trust, then you shouldn’t have run for President in the first place. (I’d say ditto for Congress, but then I have a thing about conflicts of interest.)
If it takes shutting down the business in order to do so, well so be it. It’s not like the man is going to the poor house, if his businesses get sold off and he never makes another dollar from them. (Is it? I suppose he could be bankrupt again….)
Ugh: The Trump administration and it’s Congressional lackeys have declared war on black, brown and poor people.
Is that really accurate? I don’t see that the war is limited to poor people. Unless you define “poor” as anyone with less than about $5 million net worth. Although you could, I suppose, try to make a case that the war is on poor people, and the middle class is merely collateral damage….
Ugh: The Trump administration and it’s Congressional lackeys have declared war on black, brown and poor people.
Is that really accurate? I don’t see that the war is limited to poor people. Unless you define “poor” as anyone with less than about $5 million net worth. Although you could, I suppose, try to make a case that the war is on poor people, and the middle class is merely collateral damage….
Today’s depressing indication that everything this week is about Trump:
https://xkcd.com/1836/
Today’s depressing indication that everything this week is about Trump:
https://xkcd.com/1836/
wj – war on middle class too, or at least as you note collateral damage. Don’t ever lose your health insurance!
wj – war on middle class too, or at least as you note collateral damage. Don’t ever lose your health insurance!
OF course war on the middle class.
For the same reason that Willie Sutton gave for robbing banks: “That’s where the money is.”
OF course war on the middle class.
For the same reason that Willie Sutton gave for robbing banks: “That’s where the money is.”
The Trump tax return letter released today is, while I’m sure 100% true, completely worthless.
The Trump tax return letter released today is, while I’m sure 100% true, completely worthless.
Why can’t wikileaks get there hands on drumpf’s tax returns? Losing their touch?
Why can’t wikileaks get there hands on drumpf’s tax returns? Losing their touch?
Where’s the benefit to Russia of releasing Trump’s tax returns?
Where’s the benefit to Russia of releasing Trump’s tax returns?
The non-leakage of Trump’s tax returns has been very interesting for ages. Hard to know whether it’s because of the difficulty of hacking them, or whether all the competent hackers/leakers are on his side…
The non-leakage of Trump’s tax returns has been very interesting for ages. Hard to know whether it’s because of the difficulty of hacking them, or whether all the competent hackers/leakers are on his side…
cleek’s law makes the big time. w/o attribution sadly:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html?_r=1
cleek’s law makes the big time. w/o attribution sadly:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html?_r=1
someday i’m gonna be rich and famous because of that. i just know it.
someday i’m gonna be rich and famous because of that. i just know it.
That said, what he actually said about the investor/founder visas didn’t require access to the Presidency to deliver.
You understand that how difficult or easy the visas are to obtain is not the point, right?
And Kushner’s not going anywhere. He’s Mr. Ivanka Trump.
That said, what he actually said about the investor/founder visas didn’t require access to the Presidency to deliver.
You understand that how difficult or easy the visas are to obtain is not the point, right?
And Kushner’s not going anywhere. He’s Mr. Ivanka Trump.
You understand standing in a room full of potential investors and telling them they get an investors visa if they put up money isn’t “selling the presidency” right? Otherwise Ive been known to do it a few timex.
You understand standing in a room full of potential investors and telling them they get an investors visa if they put up money isn’t “selling the presidency” right? Otherwise Ive been known to do it a few timex.
Marty, when did you become Trump’s son-in-law?
Marty, when did you become Trump’s son-in-law?
And Kushner’s not going anywhere.
Precisely. Is he an employee in the executive branch of the federal government, or is he a corporate salesperson?
Can’t be both at the same time, right?
And what’s with that lease with the GSA? Why is the GSA allowing Trump to be in breach of the contract?
And Kushner’s not going anywhere.
Precisely. Is he an employee in the executive branch of the federal government, or is he a corporate salesperson?
Can’t be both at the same time, right?
And what’s with that lease with the GSA? Why is the GSA allowing Trump to be in breach of the contract?
“Otherwise I’ve been known to do it a few timex.”
Timex: takes a licking and keeps on ticking. And misses the point twice a day.
“Marty, when did you become Trump’s son-in-law?”
The National Inquirer reports that Tiffany trump and Marty have announced their engagement.
Marla Maples is not pleased. She remarked: “Christ, can we just have one man in our lives who doesn’t make a vocation out of fucking with people all day long?”
“And what’s with that lease with the GSA?:
One of the first sojourns trump’s armed consiglieri, Keith Schiller, embarked upon in his new posting immediately after the inauguration was to the head of the GSA for a quick chin wag about who picks up the tab for the trump properties. Be a shame if anything happened.
“Otherwise I’ve been known to do it a few timex.”
Timex: takes a licking and keeps on ticking. And misses the point twice a day.
“Marty, when did you become Trump’s son-in-law?”
The National Inquirer reports that Tiffany trump and Marty have announced their engagement.
Marla Maples is not pleased. She remarked: “Christ, can we just have one man in our lives who doesn’t make a vocation out of fucking with people all day long?”
“And what’s with that lease with the GSA?:
One of the first sojourns trump’s armed consiglieri, Keith Schiller, embarked upon in his new posting immediately after the inauguration was to the head of the GSA for a quick chin wag about who picks up the tab for the trump properties. Be a shame if anything happened.
Just watch out cleek; otherwise the NYT will try to take the credit and cut you out of the fame and fortune.
A sternly written letter to the Public Editor is called for, but better if comes from associates (co-conspirators, posse, fellow travelers, ilk, whatever) rather than beating your own drum.
Hey, think that McTx would write a “legal threat letter” for you?
Just watch out cleek; otherwise the NYT will try to take the credit and cut you out of the fame and fortune.
A sternly written letter to the Public Editor is called for, but better if comes from associates (co-conspirators, posse, fellow travelers, ilk, whatever) rather than beating your own drum.
Hey, think that McTx would write a “legal threat letter” for you?
You understand standing in a room full of potential investors and telling them they get an investors visa if they put up money isn’t “selling the presidency” right?
I believe the correct term is “pimping the presidency”.
not a game you can play, you got no presidential ass to sell.
lemme know when you’re ready to have that honest, no bullshit conversation you were talking about a while ago.
You understand standing in a room full of potential investors and telling them they get an investors visa if they put up money isn’t “selling the presidency” right?
I believe the correct term is “pimping the presidency”.
not a game you can play, you got no presidential ass to sell.
lemme know when you’re ready to have that honest, no bullshit conversation you were talking about a while ago.
Can’t be both at the same time, right?
when you’re one of the borgias, the world is your oyster.
Can’t be both at the same time, right?
when you’re one of the borgias, the world is your oyster.
I decided to make the sacrifice to get the inside scoop. All kinds of potential crudity intended.
I decided to make the sacrifice to get the inside scoop. All kinds of potential crudity intended.
I decided to make the sacrifice to get the inside scoop.
Appreciate that you want to ascertain, once and for all, that Trump and his family are honorable law abiding folks and it is just us liberals who are out to get him. But I think you can do that just fine from the place you are sitting now, no need to put yourself out or reexamine anything…
I decided to make the sacrifice to get the inside scoop.
Appreciate that you want to ascertain, once and for all, that Trump and his family are honorable law abiding folks and it is just us liberals who are out to get him. But I think you can do that just fine from the place you are sitting now, no need to put yourself out or reexamine anything…
“Image-conscious” doesn’t seem to mean what it used to mean, and the “appearance of impropriety” has set sail entirely and given way to “only what can be proven in a court of law”. And frankly, imho, Comey’s “extremely careless” finding about Hillary falls squarely in the same end of the pool. If I understand correctly, this is sorta where Marty is coming from. These are the new rules.
My concern is that Trump has unwittingly(?) found the seam between all of the checks and balances that I was taught. That stuff about how it can’t happen here is breaking down as fast as CNN can “break” it.
A while back I was on a ladder when the footing gave way. I experienced that strange dichotomy where time slowed down and yet I had only a split second to react. I jumped, not knowing if that result would be better or worse than riding it down.
This feels like that.
“Image-conscious” doesn’t seem to mean what it used to mean, and the “appearance of impropriety” has set sail entirely and given way to “only what can be proven in a court of law”. And frankly, imho, Comey’s “extremely careless” finding about Hillary falls squarely in the same end of the pool. If I understand correctly, this is sorta where Marty is coming from. These are the new rules.
My concern is that Trump has unwittingly(?) found the seam between all of the checks and balances that I was taught. That stuff about how it can’t happen here is breaking down as fast as CNN can “break” it.
A while back I was on a ladder when the footing gave way. I experienced that strange dichotomy where time slowed down and yet I had only a split second to react. I jumped, not knowing if that result would be better or worse than riding it down.
This feels like that.
So, how was the landing? Better or worse?
I like this guy Pete.
So, how was the landing? Better or worse?
I like this guy Pete.
Yet another mystery:
https://twitter.com/i/moments/863075145136488448
Yet another mystery:
https://twitter.com/i/moments/863075145136488448
If I understand correctly, this is sorta where Marty is coming from. These are the new rules.
Marty is coming from the “I’ve got mine, fuck you” rules. He’s in his ’60’s, and thinks that he’s going to be okay since soon he’ll be on SS and Medicare, and he resents the thought that others might have made it too. Yeah, he paid too much for health care premiums when he lost his job, but his emphysema (am I right?) was insured despite his loss of employment based health insurance. So now he wants to screw everybody else, even though (I imagine) he has some assets, and is relatively good to go for retirement. Maybe I’m wrong about all of this, but I’m guessing I’m close. Also, even though Jeff Sessions wants to throw all low level drug offenders in jail, and Marty technically fits in that category, Marty assumes (and is probably right) that he’s okay, because he’s an old white guy, and Sessions is really going after young people of color, who will provide labor in prison slave labor camps.
I like Pete too, but not sure he gets where Marty’s coming from. Or maybe I don’t get where Pete’s coming from. Although it was a nice metaphor, that thing about the ladder.
If I understand correctly, this is sorta where Marty is coming from. These are the new rules.
Marty is coming from the “I’ve got mine, fuck you” rules. He’s in his ’60’s, and thinks that he’s going to be okay since soon he’ll be on SS and Medicare, and he resents the thought that others might have made it too. Yeah, he paid too much for health care premiums when he lost his job, but his emphysema (am I right?) was insured despite his loss of employment based health insurance. So now he wants to screw everybody else, even though (I imagine) he has some assets, and is relatively good to go for retirement. Maybe I’m wrong about all of this, but I’m guessing I’m close. Also, even though Jeff Sessions wants to throw all low level drug offenders in jail, and Marty technically fits in that category, Marty assumes (and is probably right) that he’s okay, because he’s an old white guy, and Sessions is really going after young people of color, who will provide labor in prison slave labor camps.
I like Pete too, but not sure he gets where Marty’s coming from. Or maybe I don’t get where Pete’s coming from. Although it was a nice metaphor, that thing about the ladder.
So, how was the landing? Better or worse?
Minor concussion, which was preferable to the compound fracture I had envisioned. But I missed an angry-looking stump by a few inches. So if there’s a lesson to be distilled from that, it escapes me. Maybe not-so-minor a concussion.
A comment from the Count! I’m humbled!
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Please consider my comment re:Marty in the narrow scope of the Trump administration’s navigation of the legal line(s). While I don’t agree, or maybe I just don’t want to, Trump has so far managed to walk the razor’s edge. Part of it is McConnell, et al, and the refusal to acknowledge the disgraceful optics of it all. But given the apparent “new rules”, are we just left with the Lebowski-esque “[Trump]’s not wrong, he’s just an a**hole.”?
A comment from sapient! I’m… probably in for it. 😉
So, how was the landing? Better or worse?
Minor concussion, which was preferable to the compound fracture I had envisioned. But I missed an angry-looking stump by a few inches. So if there’s a lesson to be distilled from that, it escapes me. Maybe not-so-minor a concussion.
A comment from the Count! I’m humbled!
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Please consider my comment re:Marty in the narrow scope of the Trump administration’s navigation of the legal line(s). While I don’t agree, or maybe I just don’t want to, Trump has so far managed to walk the razor’s edge. Part of it is McConnell, et al, and the refusal to acknowledge the disgraceful optics of it all. But given the apparent “new rules”, are we just left with the Lebowski-esque “[Trump]’s not wrong, he’s just an a**hole.”?
A comment from sapient! I’m… probably in for it. 😉
Welcome, Pete. I’m not scary at all. They get rid of me when I get to be too much.
Welcome, Pete. I’m not scary at all. They get rid of me when I get to be too much.
Speeaking of riddance, let us fantasize that in 2020 the Democrats sweep the elections.
I imagine that most statutes of limitations, on any criminal mischief by He, Trump and his henchmen during the 2016 campaign and the duration of His regime, will not have run out.
Should POTUS#46 make like Obama and “look forward, not back”?
–TP
Speeaking of riddance, let us fantasize that in 2020 the Democrats sweep the elections.
I imagine that most statutes of limitations, on any criminal mischief by He, Trump and his henchmen during the 2016 campaign and the duration of His regime, will not have run out.
Should POTUS#46 make like Obama and “look forward, not back”?
–TP
Should POTUS#46 make like Obama and “look forward, not back”?
If that happens, ? willing, no. People need to go to jail.
Should POTUS#46 make like Obama and “look forward, not back”?
If that happens, ? willing, no. People need to go to jail.
“But I missed an angry-looking stump by a few inches. So if there’s a lesson to be distilled from that, it escapes me.”
Lesson: this planet has TOO MUCH GRAVITY.
Please reduce it by 30%. I am not a crank.
“But I missed an angry-looking stump by a few inches. So if there’s a lesson to be distilled from that, it escapes me.”
Lesson: this planet has TOO MUCH GRAVITY.
Please reduce it by 30%. I am not a crank.
Should POTUS#46 make like Obama and “look forward, not back”?
let’s dream a little dream, shall we?
no exemptions from laws against conflict of interest.
no exemptions from laws about insider trading.
no family members in the chain of direct reports.
blind trust is mandatory.
financial disclosure, including at a minimum tax returns for the last 10 years, mandatory, not just for potus but for Congress and scotus as well.
put these motherf’ers under a microscope.
seriously, I had to piss in a cup and submit to a credit check to freaking write code, because the company I work for is hipaa compliant. when I had a secret clearance the dia was up my butt like you wouldn’t believe.
from my point of view, trump’s the last damned straw. from now on, if you want to hold national public office, you are no longer a private person. submit to transparency and disclosure, or pick another career.
Should POTUS#46 make like Obama and “look forward, not back”?
let’s dream a little dream, shall we?
no exemptions from laws against conflict of interest.
no exemptions from laws about insider trading.
no family members in the chain of direct reports.
blind trust is mandatory.
financial disclosure, including at a minimum tax returns for the last 10 years, mandatory, not just for potus but for Congress and scotus as well.
put these motherf’ers under a microscope.
seriously, I had to piss in a cup and submit to a credit check to freaking write code, because the company I work for is hipaa compliant. when I had a secret clearance the dia was up my butt like you wouldn’t believe.
from my point of view, trump’s the last damned straw. from now on, if you want to hold national public office, you are no longer a private person. submit to transparency and disclosure, or pick another career.
The Indonesian mystery-beast appears to have vertebrae, confirming that it’s a whale. Or at least it *was* a whale …
I’m amazed at the people just walking around it like it’s no big deal. I was once on Block Island when (part of) a dead young sperm whale washed up on the beach, and the smell was … proportional.
The Indonesian mystery-beast appears to have vertebrae, confirming that it’s a whale. Or at least it *was* a whale …
I’m amazed at the people just walking around it like it’s no big deal. I was once on Block Island when (part of) a dead young sperm whale washed up on the beach, and the smell was … proportional.
Yes, it looks like a whale, but I prefer that it remain a mystery monster.
Glad you missed the stump, Pete. But your stump speech is very fine.
sapient, thanks for the shout out for the Algonquin Club link on the other thread. It took me a few days to get to it, but I enjoyed it immensely.
I wish Dorothy Parker was still with us.
Yes, it looks like a whale, but I prefer that it remain a mystery monster.
Glad you missed the stump, Pete. But your stump speech is very fine.
sapient, thanks for the shout out for the Algonquin Club link on the other thread. It took me a few days to get to it, but I enjoyed it immensely.
I wish Dorothy Parker was still with us.
W.r.s. 10:52
One of the reasons for the feelings which are the topic of the next thread is growing evidence that only the rich and powerful can maintain a expectation of privacy.
W.r.s. 10:52
One of the reasons for the feelings which are the topic of the next thread is growing evidence that only the rich and powerful can maintain a expectation of privacy.
Trump signed the law that Kushner is trying to profit of off.
Trump signed the law that Kushner is trying to profit of off.
This.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/05/13/trump-should-get-no-fbi-director-pick/
This.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/05/13/trump-should-get-no-fbi-director-pick/
Once hearings in the House and Senate are commenced and completed for Merrick Garland’s appointment by President Barack Obama to Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, he’ll be free to consider an appointment as FBI Director.
Until then, Mike Lee and the Republican Party can bite it.
Tiresome, ain’t it?
Once hearings in the House and Senate are commenced and completed for Merrick Garland’s appointment by President Barack Obama to Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, he’ll be free to consider an appointment as FBI Director.
Until then, Mike Lee and the Republican Party can bite it.
Tiresome, ain’t it?
This article has a rather interesting alternate proposal (& makes some sensible points, too):
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/minimal-constitutionists-want-to-have-it-both-ways/526578/
This article has a rather interesting alternate proposal (& makes some sensible points, too):
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/minimal-constitutionists-want-to-have-it-both-ways/526578/