by liberal japonicus
A thread for your thoughts about what was essentially a second debate, separate by distance. Savannah Guthrie put paid to my notion that a woman would get overwelmed, though as moderator rather than debate opponent, she had some protection from Trump going all crazy uncle on her. The Guardian live blog was (and continues to be, as they are collecting various reactions) interesting, feel free to add things you catch or your own observations.
Guthrie did very well indeed.
The format probably helped – I think the job is a lot tougher moderating a debate – but it shows how to deal with someone like that. Polite, but take no shit, and don’t inhabit his version of reality.
The ‘it’s not like you’re someone’s crazy uncle’ bit was her best moment, as it was both pointed and turned Trump’s rhetorical techniques back on him, while not overstepping the independent moderator line.
And as Mary Trump pointed out, yes he is.
Guthrie did very well indeed.
The format probably helped – I think the job is a lot tougher moderating a debate – but it shows how to deal with someone like that. Polite, but take no shit, and don’t inhabit his version of reality.
The ‘it’s not like you’re someone’s crazy uncle’ bit was her best moment, as it was both pointed and turned Trump’s rhetorical techniques back on him, while not overstepping the independent moderator line.
And as Mary Trump pointed out, yes he is.
Meanwhile…
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/15/democrats-supreme-court-retaliation-429655
Sheldon Whitehouse issued a blunt warning to his Republican colleagues on Thursday, as he watched the Judiciary Committee ready Amy Coney Barrett’s Supreme Court nomination for the Senate floor.
There will not be two sets of rules for Democratic and Republican Senate majorities, Whitehouse vowed; the GOP decision to block President Barack Obama’s nominee in 2016 and approve President Donald Trump’s just days before the 2020 election will have consequences.
“Don’t think when you have established the rule of ‘because we can,’ that should the shoe be on the other foot, you will have any credibility to come to us and say: ‘yeah, I know you can do that, but you shouldn’t,’” Whitehouse said. “Your credibility to make that argument at any time in the future will die in this room and on that Senate floor if you continue.”…
Meanwhile…
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/15/democrats-supreme-court-retaliation-429655
Sheldon Whitehouse issued a blunt warning to his Republican colleagues on Thursday, as he watched the Judiciary Committee ready Amy Coney Barrett’s Supreme Court nomination for the Senate floor.
There will not be two sets of rules for Democratic and Republican Senate majorities, Whitehouse vowed; the GOP decision to block President Barack Obama’s nominee in 2016 and approve President Donald Trump’s just days before the 2020 election will have consequences.
“Don’t think when you have established the rule of ‘because we can,’ that should the shoe be on the other foot, you will have any credibility to come to us and say: ‘yeah, I know you can do that, but you shouldn’t,’” Whitehouse said. “Your credibility to make that argument at any time in the future will die in this room and on that Senate floor if you continue.”…
If I were in charge of anti-Trump messaging coming out of those town halls, I’d be running non-stop clips of Trump calling a $421m debt “a peanut” and contrasting that with his decision not to do another stimulus because a $600 check is too much.
If I were in charge of anti-Trump messaging coming out of those town halls, I’d be running non-stop clips of Trump calling a $421m debt “a peanut” and contrasting that with his decision not to do another stimulus because a $600 check is too much.
The “peanut” comment is like the “When you’re a star, they let you do it” line– a perfect distillation of his pathologies, and clear evidence of the very opposite of the alpha manliness he thinks he’s projecting with that kind of BS.
The big question is: Have enough people, and in the right places, gotten hit hard enough over the head by his “presidency” in the midst of a pandemic to get the point of nous’s juxtaposition, as compared to last time?
The “peanut” comment is like the “When you’re a star, they let you do it” line– a perfect distillation of his pathologies, and clear evidence of the very opposite of the alpha manliness he thinks he’s projecting with that kind of BS.
The big question is: Have enough people, and in the right places, gotten hit hard enough over the head by his “presidency” in the midst of a pandemic to get the point of nous’s juxtaposition, as compared to last time?
the very opposite of the alpha manliness he thinks he’s projecting
What Trump doesn’t, can’t, grasp is that a real alpha male doesn’t have to work at projecting anything. It’s part of why he is so pathetic.
the very opposite of the alpha manliness he thinks he’s projecting
What Trump doesn’t, can’t, grasp is that a real alpha male doesn’t have to work at projecting anything. It’s part of why he is so pathetic.
Trump calling a $421m debt “a peanut”
and only paying $750 in taxes because he’s so rich
Trump calling a $421m debt “a peanut”
and only paying $750 in taxes because he’s so rich
WaPo reads this blog: Trump, Biden and masculinity in the age of coronavirus:
WaPo reads this blog: Trump, Biden and masculinity in the age of coronavirus:
I’m not sure what there is to know about Trump that isn’t already clearly and plainly knowable. The interview with Guthrie just confirms all of that.
Same for Biden, no surprises there. Just Biden being Biden.
I can’t explain why people embrace stuff like QAnon. I can’t explain why people vote for Trump, let alone celebrate him and think of him as (literally) god’s gift to the nation.
Biden is something of a confabulating geezer. As have been any number of people who have run for and in some cases won the office of POTUS. Nobody on the planet could ever spin a yarn better than Saint Ronnie.
But Biden is also somebody who basically likes and respects people, and considers government an instrument for helping people and improving their lives. And, he knows his way around the institutions of federal governance.
Trump is an @ss, and a crook, and appears to be incapable of thinking about other human beings in any way other than how they increase his wealth or flatter his self-image. Preferably both. He demonstrates no significant understanding of the responsibilities and obligations of the office he holds. His political agenda is based on division, resentment, and a toxic sense of victimhood. He’s a greedy, vain, pissy, thin-skinned chaos monkey.
So in November we will find out what kind of country we want to be. There might have been excuses for folks who voted for Trump in 2016, this year not so much.
For me, personally, the Trump years have been illuminating. Attitudes I thought we’d put behind us, I now see have just been laying around dormant, waiting for someone like Trump to come along and invite them back to the table. Not a surprise, necessarily, but definitely a heads-up.
Whatever happens, I won’t forget any of this.
I’m not sure what there is to know about Trump that isn’t already clearly and plainly knowable. The interview with Guthrie just confirms all of that.
Same for Biden, no surprises there. Just Biden being Biden.
I can’t explain why people embrace stuff like QAnon. I can’t explain why people vote for Trump, let alone celebrate him and think of him as (literally) god’s gift to the nation.
Biden is something of a confabulating geezer. As have been any number of people who have run for and in some cases won the office of POTUS. Nobody on the planet could ever spin a yarn better than Saint Ronnie.
But Biden is also somebody who basically likes and respects people, and considers government an instrument for helping people and improving their lives. And, he knows his way around the institutions of federal governance.
Trump is an @ss, and a crook, and appears to be incapable of thinking about other human beings in any way other than how they increase his wealth or flatter his self-image. Preferably both. He demonstrates no significant understanding of the responsibilities and obligations of the office he holds. His political agenda is based on division, resentment, and a toxic sense of victimhood. He’s a greedy, vain, pissy, thin-skinned chaos monkey.
So in November we will find out what kind of country we want to be. There might have been excuses for folks who voted for Trump in 2016, this year not so much.
For me, personally, the Trump years have been illuminating. Attitudes I thought we’d put behind us, I now see have just been laying around dormant, waiting for someone like Trump to come along and invite them back to the table. Not a surprise, necessarily, but definitely a heads-up.
Whatever happens, I won’t forget any of this.
Attitudes I thought we’d put behind us, I now see have just been laying around dormant, waiting for someone like Trump to come along and invite them back to the table.
Kinda like herpes.
Attitudes I thought we’d put behind us, I now see have just been laying around dormant, waiting for someone like Trump to come along and invite them back to the table.
Kinda like herpes.
He demonstrates no significant understanding of the responsibilities and obligations of the office he holds.
You could have just stopped at “responsibilities and obligations”. Those are concepts that he either doesn’t understand or, more likely, utterly rejects when it comes to himself. (He may accept that other people have them with respect to him.)
He demonstrates no significant understanding of the responsibilities and obligations of the office he holds.
You could have just stopped at “responsibilities and obligations”. Those are concepts that he either doesn’t understand or, more likely, utterly rejects when it comes to himself. (He may accept that other people have them with respect to him.)
Social Security 1935
Medicare 1965
Griswold v Connecticut 1965
Roe v Wade 1973
ACA 2010
Obergefell v Hodges 2015
Eighty years of progress, about to be unraveled one case at a time. (Well, it has already started, see Citizens United, the end of the VRA, etc.)
It’s important for Biden to win this election, yes, but that’s the beginning, not the end, of a long process. Barring an act of some deity other than the one that guides god’s-puppet-lady Amy Coney Barrett’s every move and thought, there’s going to be a lot of damage done that will take decades to repair. Not to mention figuring out how to address the weaknesses that the past forty years, with their apotheosis in Clickbait, have revealed in our system.
The Federalist Society, the Mercers, the DeVoses, the Kochs…
When I was a kid, at least the country was sane enough so that the Kochs’ father’s John Birch Society was widely regarded as a bunch of extremist loons. No longer.
Anyhow, these people had a long-term goal, and they poured money and resources into it for decades.
With climate change looming, it’s going to be all that much harder to counter their focus and purposefulness. “I don’t belong to an organized political party – I’m a Democrat” (Will Rogers, I believe) – we’ll see, or at least our offspring may see, whether the mountain range of small-money donations that feeds ActBlue can counterbalance the planet-sized piles of concentrated wealth that are destroying us in seventeen different ways.
Social Security 1935
Medicare 1965
Griswold v Connecticut 1965
Roe v Wade 1973
ACA 2010
Obergefell v Hodges 2015
Eighty years of progress, about to be unraveled one case at a time. (Well, it has already started, see Citizens United, the end of the VRA, etc.)
It’s important for Biden to win this election, yes, but that’s the beginning, not the end, of a long process. Barring an act of some deity other than the one that guides god’s-puppet-lady Amy Coney Barrett’s every move and thought, there’s going to be a lot of damage done that will take decades to repair. Not to mention figuring out how to address the weaknesses that the past forty years, with their apotheosis in Clickbait, have revealed in our system.
The Federalist Society, the Mercers, the DeVoses, the Kochs…
When I was a kid, at least the country was sane enough so that the Kochs’ father’s John Birch Society was widely regarded as a bunch of extremist loons. No longer.
Anyhow, these people had a long-term goal, and they poured money and resources into it for decades.
With climate change looming, it’s going to be all that much harder to counter their focus and purposefulness. “I don’t belong to an organized political party – I’m a Democrat” (Will Rogers, I believe) – we’ll see, or at least our offspring may see, whether the mountain range of small-money donations that feeds ActBlue can counterbalance the planet-sized piles of concentrated wealth that are destroying us in seventeen different ways.
I should have put the VRA in the original list: 1965.
I should have put the VRA in the original list: 1965.
What drives me nuts is that they’re destroying the system that allowed them to generate their wealth in the first place. I guess they don’t care about what happens after they’re dead, so long as they can squeeze every possible dollar out of our economic system while they’re still alive.
Well, maybe they care about being able to pass sh*t tons of money to their heirs without it being taxed. But that seems to be about it, though it’s probably enough to last a few generations before the rot gets to everyone.
What drives me nuts is that they’re destroying the system that allowed them to generate their wealth in the first place. I guess they don’t care about what happens after they’re dead, so long as they can squeeze every possible dollar out of our economic system while they’re still alive.
Well, maybe they care about being able to pass sh*t tons of money to their heirs without it being taxed. But that seems to be about it, though it’s probably enough to last a few generations before the rot gets to everyone.
Barring an act of some deity other than the one that guides god’s-puppet-lady Amy Coney Barrett’s every move and thought, there’s going to be a lot of damage done that will take decades to repair.
You mean an act of God like Mr. Justice Thomas leaving the Court (whether via retirement or, more likely, his demise)? If, hypothetically, he and say Alito kick off in the next year or two, the amount of damage that the remaining conservatives manage to do would be limited.
Barring an act of some deity other than the one that guides god’s-puppet-lady Amy Coney Barrett’s every move and thought, there’s going to be a lot of damage done that will take decades to repair.
You mean an act of God like Mr. Justice Thomas leaving the Court (whether via retirement or, more likely, his demise)? If, hypothetically, he and say Alito kick off in the next year or two, the amount of damage that the remaining conservatives manage to do would be limited.
and only paying $750 in taxes because he’s so rich
Poor guy sounds like he’s on his uppers.
and only paying $750 in taxes because he’s so rich
Poor guy sounds like he’s on his uppers.
Yeah, I know I’m the one who wrote about an act of some deity, but in real life I’m an atheist (or close enough) in this as in other ways.
Alito is 70, Thomas 72. Even one of them “kicking off” is highly unlikely, never mind both. Breyer, on the other hand, is 82. And unless the Ds take the Senate, Mitch will just go right on blocking any openings that come up with a D president. He promised it four years ago, I know of nothing that would force him to change his mind.
Just talked myself into more $ for Senate campaigns………
Yeah, I know I’m the one who wrote about an act of some deity, but in real life I’m an atheist (or close enough) in this as in other ways.
Alito is 70, Thomas 72. Even one of them “kicking off” is highly unlikely, never mind both. Breyer, on the other hand, is 82. And unless the Ds take the Senate, Mitch will just go right on blocking any openings that come up with a D president. He promised it four years ago, I know of nothing that would force him to change his mind.
Just talked myself into more $ for Senate campaigns………
My imagination is way over-taxed:
https://mainernews.com/susan-collins-backs-qanon-believers-for-maine-legislature/
I’m still reading “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”.
At this point, it’s light relief after each day of trump reality, but only because Hitler was so much more exceptional as a psychopath.
I guess more guns is the only answer for America.
I hate guns.
But I won a gold ribbon on the high school rifle team for marksmanship.
My imagination is way over-taxed:
https://mainernews.com/susan-collins-backs-qanon-believers-for-maine-legislature/
I’m still reading “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”.
At this point, it’s light relief after each day of trump reality, but only because Hitler was so much more exceptional as a psychopath.
I guess more guns is the only answer for America.
I hate guns.
But I won a gold ribbon on the high school rifle team for marksmanship.
The question in my mind is, if the Democrats take both houses of Congress and the White House, is the first order of business in the Senate to get rid of the filibuster so they can pass legislation as they please? And is one of the first pieces of legislation election reform?
The question in my mind is, if the Democrats take both houses of Congress and the White House, is the first order of business in the Senate to get rid of the filibuster so they can pass legislation as they please? And is one of the first pieces of legislation election reform?
i wonder if there’s broad Senate Dem support for killing the filibuster…
election reform would be awesome.
i wonder if there’s broad Senate Dem support for killing the filibuster…
election reform would be awesome.
if the Democrats take both houses of Congress and the White House, is the first order of business in the Senate to get rid of the filibuster so they can pass legislation as they please?
I’m guessing that they will at least try first to pass legislation without getting rid of the filibuster. But if/when the Republicans demonstrate that they will oppose anything and everything, and can keep everybody in line to make that blanket opposition work, then the filibuster is history.
if the Democrats take both houses of Congress and the White House, is the first order of business in the Senate to get rid of the filibuster so they can pass legislation as they please?
I’m guessing that they will at least try first to pass legislation without getting rid of the filibuster. But if/when the Republicans demonstrate that they will oppose anything and everything, and can keep everybody in line to make that blanket opposition work, then the filibuster is history.
1. Eliminate filibuster
2A. Pandemic response
2B. Economic relief – funding to states, unemployment, etc.
3. New Voting Rights Act – include pre-clearance for all jurisdictions (if that would get around Shelby v. Holder, IANAL)
4. Healthcare reform
5. Federal Judiciary reform – Jack Balkin has an interesting proposal for regularizing Supreme Court nominations.
6. Infrastructure spending – separate it out from relief spending so headline $ number lower; include some items related to climate change issues.
7. Climate Change policies
8. Federal election reform – mandates and funding for things as granular as: national secure voting machine standard; # of voting machines per # of registered voters in a jurisdiction. Or national vote by mail for all Federal offices. National standard for vote deadlines, recount procedures, legal challenges, etc. Again, these would only apply to Federal elections, but the hope would be that states would not want the hassle of having different processes for Federal vs. state/local elections.
Dream a little dream tonight. . .
1. Eliminate filibuster
2A. Pandemic response
2B. Economic relief – funding to states, unemployment, etc.
3. New Voting Rights Act – include pre-clearance for all jurisdictions (if that would get around Shelby v. Holder, IANAL)
4. Healthcare reform
5. Federal Judiciary reform – Jack Balkin has an interesting proposal for regularizing Supreme Court nominations.
6. Infrastructure spending – separate it out from relief spending so headline $ number lower; include some items related to climate change issues.
7. Climate Change policies
8. Federal election reform – mandates and funding for things as granular as: national secure voting machine standard; # of voting machines per # of registered voters in a jurisdiction. Or national vote by mail for all Federal offices. National standard for vote deadlines, recount procedures, legal challenges, etc. Again, these would only apply to Federal elections, but the hope would be that states would not want the hassle of having different processes for Federal vs. state/local elections.
Dream a little dream tonight. . .
From last June:
I have a lot of respect for Angus King. He was a popular independent governor of Maine for eight years a while back, and is now in his second term as an independent senator who caucuses with the Ds.) I’m not sure how I feel about the filibuster, it seems like a no-win situation. But I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell. The hypocrisy alone would net him seventeen eternities of eating brimstone for every meal.
From last June:
I have a lot of respect for Angus King. He was a popular independent governor of Maine for eight years a while back, and is now in his second term as an independent senator who caucuses with the Ds.) I’m not sure how I feel about the filibuster, it seems like a no-win situation. But I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell. The hypocrisy alone would net him seventeen eternities of eating brimstone for every meal.
Of course I have a lot of respect for Elizabeth Warren as well….
Of course I have a lot of respect for Elizabeth Warren as well….
of course.
of course.
Would even 54 senators be enough ?
There’s Manchin, King, and probably Feinstein to convince for a start.
Would even 54 senators be enough ?
There’s Manchin, King, and probably Feinstein to convince for a start.
50 would be enough for the ‘nuclear option‘.
50 vote to change the rules, 50 vote against. tie goes to the VP who would vote to change.
50 would be enough for the ‘nuclear option‘.
50 vote to change the rules, 50 vote against. tie goes to the VP who would vote to change.
Quite, and if King, Manchin and Feinstein don’t play, that’s 49.
Quite, and if King, Manchin and Feinstein don’t play, that’s 49.
Or perhaps still more than 50, depending on how many of the Senate races which are currently (however, in some cases, improbably) toss-ups end up flipping.
Certainly things could still turn around. But unless they do, an epic blowout seems entirely possible.
Or perhaps still more than 50, depending on how many of the Senate races which are currently (however, in some cases, improbably) toss-ups end up flipping.
Certainly things could still turn around. But unless they do, an epic blowout seems entirely possible.
I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell.
Amen to the nth degree.
I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell.
Amen to the nth degree.
I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell.
One, I want him punished in this life, since I don’t believe there’s a next one.
Two, McConnell is one of tens of millions of people – all GOP voters – who decided that the US must be destroyed for the crime of electing and then re-electing a Democratic black President.
I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell.
One, I want him punished in this life, since I don’t believe there’s a next one.
Two, McConnell is one of tens of millions of people – all GOP voters – who decided that the US must be destroyed for the crime of electing and then re-electing a Democratic black President.
I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell.
My fantasy ideal (because what else are dreams for?) is McConnell
1) voted out of office
2) reduced to grinding poverty
3) living in that condition for decades
Agonizing illness not required. But something chronic which contributes to 2) is a plus.
I’m very sure there isn’t a circle in hell deep enough for Mitch McConnell.
My fantasy ideal (because what else are dreams for?) is McConnell
1) voted out of office
2) reduced to grinding poverty
3) living in that condition for decades
Agonizing illness not required. But something chronic which contributes to 2) is a plus.
One, I want him punished in this life, since I don’t believe there’s a next one.
1. I keep having to explain myself…”hell” was a metaphor for just how evil I think he is. I too would like to see him punished in this life. Too bad he’s too old to endure any punishment for very many decades. Besides wj’s list, I would like him to have to function in a world where no one else acts like they can even see or hear tha he exists. He can be a non-person, and see how he likes it.
2. I agree that racism plays a role, but the GOP was trying to destroy the US, or at least any version of it that I would recognize as a civilized country, long before Obama was elected. See the Charles Koch article I linked earlier. See Gingrich and Reagan. Of course the obsession with undoing FDR’s legacy, and what followed, has an element of race in it for a lot of people, the millions who don’t want e.g. Social Security if it means black people get it too.
But I don’t think the Kochs (again e.g.) give a flying banana about the race aspect of it. They just want to be even more obscenely, dick-measuringly wealthy than they already are. And part of being wealthy for people like them is a different version of the “I’ll live under a bridge and eat a sparrow on a spit as long as the X or X or X in the next archway doesn’t get the sparrow.” The rest of us have to be as widely and deeply immiserated as possible, because we haven’t worked hard enough, and generally aren’t virtuous enough, to live in comfort and safety, unlike the masters of the universe. How will they keep proving to themselves how superior they are if there isn’t enough inferior-ness to gloat over?
Shorter: it’s always about race in this country. But it’s never only about race.
Back to bed, what on earth am I doing up at this ungodly hour anyhow?
One, I want him punished in this life, since I don’t believe there’s a next one.
1. I keep having to explain myself…”hell” was a metaphor for just how evil I think he is. I too would like to see him punished in this life. Too bad he’s too old to endure any punishment for very many decades. Besides wj’s list, I would like him to have to function in a world where no one else acts like they can even see or hear tha he exists. He can be a non-person, and see how he likes it.
2. I agree that racism plays a role, but the GOP was trying to destroy the US, or at least any version of it that I would recognize as a civilized country, long before Obama was elected. See the Charles Koch article I linked earlier. See Gingrich and Reagan. Of course the obsession with undoing FDR’s legacy, and what followed, has an element of race in it for a lot of people, the millions who don’t want e.g. Social Security if it means black people get it too.
But I don’t think the Kochs (again e.g.) give a flying banana about the race aspect of it. They just want to be even more obscenely, dick-measuringly wealthy than they already are. And part of being wealthy for people like them is a different version of the “I’ll live under a bridge and eat a sparrow on a spit as long as the X or X or X in the next archway doesn’t get the sparrow.” The rest of us have to be as widely and deeply immiserated as possible, because we haven’t worked hard enough, and generally aren’t virtuous enough, to live in comfort and safety, unlike the masters of the universe. How will they keep proving to themselves how superior they are if there isn’t enough inferior-ness to gloat over?
Shorter: it’s always about race in this country. But it’s never only about race.
Back to bed, what on earth am I doing up at this ungodly hour anyhow?
I don’t believe McConnell, as an example of a certain type of ideological species, would recognize any variety of payback as punishment for what he has wrought for the norms of governance in this country, but would rather enjoy it and profit from it as any cheap store-front ideological martyr would.
Read this, if you can stomach it:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/10/alt-right-star-racist-propagandist-has-no-regrets/616725/
I keep thinking these ….. insert any of the insults I overuse …. these sad, defiantly ugly, exhibitionist pretties, immolating themselves like trump, are the sign of the ultimate burning out of the malignant, authoritarian right-wing conservative movement, and I include Putin among them, now wrecking the world, much as Charles Manson and the Symbionese Liberation Army/Patty Hearst are viewed now symbolically …. probably by dismissive simpletons …. as a kind of inevitable and seedy waterloo for whatever the radical cultural and political Left thought it was accomplishing in those days.
But, I’m not so sure. What we are seeing might be some kind of portentous, albeit pretentious beginning.
Q is running for political office, now.
If Anders Breivik could somehow run for office in Europe, what would happen?
How much room is there between Breivik and Orban, for example?
How much room is there between Dreher’s self-enamored ravings about Weimar America and the embrace of Putin’s depravity by the Russian Orthodox Church?
Or is Dreher along the lines of the Beach Boys’ naive drummer, Dennis Wilson, unwittingly hanging with Manson’s “associates” right up to the disaster, though Dreher is pretty cynical the way he teases and flirts his way through his political choices.
It’s not like Dreher is a Stockholm Syndrome Patty Hearst and is going to go back to his normal life while living off the residuals from his books, is it?
He’s playing a longer game. As is the female protagonist in the link.
She’s addressed the European Parliament, for cripes’ sake, and is now playing the outside agitator in Australia.
It took a Hitler to vanquish Weimar Germany’s gender experimentation and the Other.
And even he was SHOCKED that he made such overwhelming, uncontested headway each malign step he took.
But our ham sandwich is going to ruin America.
I don’t believe McConnell, as an example of a certain type of ideological species, would recognize any variety of payback as punishment for what he has wrought for the norms of governance in this country, but would rather enjoy it and profit from it as any cheap store-front ideological martyr would.
Read this, if you can stomach it:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/10/alt-right-star-racist-propagandist-has-no-regrets/616725/
I keep thinking these ….. insert any of the insults I overuse …. these sad, defiantly ugly, exhibitionist pretties, immolating themselves like trump, are the sign of the ultimate burning out of the malignant, authoritarian right-wing conservative movement, and I include Putin among them, now wrecking the world, much as Charles Manson and the Symbionese Liberation Army/Patty Hearst are viewed now symbolically …. probably by dismissive simpletons …. as a kind of inevitable and seedy waterloo for whatever the radical cultural and political Left thought it was accomplishing in those days.
But, I’m not so sure. What we are seeing might be some kind of portentous, albeit pretentious beginning.
Q is running for political office, now.
If Anders Breivik could somehow run for office in Europe, what would happen?
How much room is there between Breivik and Orban, for example?
How much room is there between Dreher’s self-enamored ravings about Weimar America and the embrace of Putin’s depravity by the Russian Orthodox Church?
Or is Dreher along the lines of the Beach Boys’ naive drummer, Dennis Wilson, unwittingly hanging with Manson’s “associates” right up to the disaster, though Dreher is pretty cynical the way he teases and flirts his way through his political choices.
It’s not like Dreher is a Stockholm Syndrome Patty Hearst and is going to go back to his normal life while living off the residuals from his books, is it?
He’s playing a longer game. As is the female protagonist in the link.
She’s addressed the European Parliament, for cripes’ sake, and is now playing the outside agitator in Australia.
It took a Hitler to vanquish Weimar Germany’s gender experimentation and the Other.
And even he was SHOCKED that he made such overwhelming, uncontested headway each malign step he took.
But our ham sandwich is going to ruin America.
I enjoyed and appreciatedthis piece regarding originalism. Scalia was such an intellectual fraud.
I enjoyed and appreciatedthis piece regarding originalism. Scalia was such an intellectual fraud.
Read this, if you can stomach it
I read it, and was duly depressed and unsurprised. The confluence of ignorance, callousness, ambition, amorality and shortsightedness, and the power that social media etc gives to the people who possess these qualities, is profoundly worrying and upsetting. JDT is quite right; this stuff is just as bad and growing in Europe as in the US. Q-type conspiracy theories ditto (recent personal experience at one degree of separation confirms). Kaliyuga, perhaps. Eheu.
Read this, if you can stomach it
I read it, and was duly depressed and unsurprised. The confluence of ignorance, callousness, ambition, amorality and shortsightedness, and the power that social media etc gives to the people who possess these qualities, is profoundly worrying and upsetting. JDT is quite right; this stuff is just as bad and growing in Europe as in the US. Q-type conspiracy theories ditto (recent personal experience at one degree of separation confirms). Kaliyuga, perhaps. Eheu.
originalism
Coney Barrett, from her testimony before the Judiciary Committee as quoted here:
A capsule definition of the “living constitution” approach to judicial reasoning, from here:
I guess there’s some daylight between those statements, but I have to squint pretty hard to see it.
originalism
Coney Barrett, from her testimony before the Judiciary Committee as quoted here:
A capsule definition of the “living constitution” approach to judicial reasoning, from here:
I guess there’s some daylight between those statements, but I have to squint pretty hard to see it.
Well, they *have* to go for a dynamic reading, so that the 2nd Amendment doesn’t only apply to muzzle-loader flintlocks.
Oh wait, that would be if they had any sort of intellectual integrity. Never mind.
Well, they *have* to go for a dynamic reading, so that the 2nd Amendment doesn’t only apply to muzzle-loader flintlocks.
Oh wait, that would be if they had any sort of intellectual integrity. Never mind.
What we are seeing might be some kind of portentous, albeit pretentious beginning.
Q is running for political office, now.
I see those QAnon candidates as a sign that the GOP nationwide is going the way the California GOP did in the 1990s. Getting so loony that they can only win in the occasional backwater. Just takes a little more crazy to make the cut some places than others.
There are still some Republicans in the California legislature. Just not enough to have any substantial impact as a group. (Individual Republican legislators, if they are willing to work with others, can still make things happen.)
What we are seeing might be some kind of portentous, albeit pretentious beginning.
Q is running for political office, now.
I see those QAnon candidates as a sign that the GOP nationwide is going the way the California GOP did in the 1990s. Getting so loony that they can only win in the occasional backwater. Just takes a little more crazy to make the cut some places than others.
There are still some Republicans in the California legislature. Just not enough to have any substantial impact as a group. (Individual Republican legislators, if they are willing to work with others, can still make things happen.)
What stops Q from becoming the latest establishment GOP dogma?
They have no principles beyond Hate Teh Libz and Q is as good a rationale for that as any of the others they’ve had over the years.
Truth? Hah.
What stops Q from becoming the latest establishment GOP dogma?
They have no principles beyond Hate Teh Libz and Q is as good a rationale for that as any of the others they’ve had over the years.
Truth? Hah.
What stops Q from becoming the latest establishment GOP dogma?
They have no principles beyond Hate Teh Libz and Q is as good a rationale for that as any of the others they’ve had over the years.
Well, it makes Cleek’s Law the GOP’s official doctrine, rather than just the de factor doctrine.
GOP: “When you have lost everything else (thanks to our economic policies!) we’ll make sure you still have liberal tears to keep you warm.”
What stops Q from becoming the latest establishment GOP dogma?
They have no principles beyond Hate Teh Libz and Q is as good a rationale for that as any of the others they’ve had over the years.
Well, it makes Cleek’s Law the GOP’s official doctrine, rather than just the de factor doctrine.
GOP: “When you have lost everything else (thanks to our economic policies!) we’ll make sure you still have liberal tears to keep you warm.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/us/politics/justice-department-barr-prosecutors.html?smid=tw-share
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/us/politics/justice-department-barr-prosecutors.html?smid=tw-share
https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/psa-voting-rights/
https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/psa-voting-rights/
Don’t think the subhuman conservative movement can’t, or won’t, harness this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/extremists-dont-belong-military/616763/
Don’t think the subhuman conservative movement can’t, or won’t, harness this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/extremists-dont-belong-military/616763/
One of Barrett’s cases.
https://www.wjiinc.org/blog/appeals-court-reverses-67-million-jail-rape-verdict
Do authorities have no duty of care towards inmates ? From a UK perspective, this judgment seems utterly unconscionable, barabaric.
One of Barrett’s cases.
https://www.wjiinc.org/blog/appeals-court-reverses-67-million-jail-rape-verdict
Do authorities have no duty of care towards inmates ? From a UK perspective, this judgment seems utterly unconscionable, barabaric.
Trump is galvanizing right-wing violence and lock-her-up government terrorism against Michigan Governor Whitmer.
Since my son is for the time being in Michigan and favors and observes the Governor’s restrictions on Death-cult, lawbreaking subhuman republican vermin, I’m taking the President’s threats personally.
I don’t how Biden is going to live up to the both sides do it expectations of the bullshit artists, but there are 26 Republican Governors out there who could use some malicious incentive-inducing threats against their policies from a freedom-loving tree-watering Democratic President who has 780 billion dollars of military savagery at his beck and call.
And this guy:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/17/1987371/-Saturday-Night-Owls-Millionaire-Kudlow-extols-gains-from-wrecked-economy-ignores-damage-to-people
I predict things are going to get very creative when it comes time to hurt that cuck.
Maybe the pandemic-loving hack can run back to CNBC and let Joe Kernan and Jim Cramer resume sucking his dick on a daily basis.
Raise Kudlow’s marginal tax rate to 100% and let it kick in on the FIRST dollar he defrauds from dupe filth.
May his business always be small, like his sadistic character.
May animal spirits feed on his viscera.
Trump is galvanizing right-wing violence and lock-her-up government terrorism against Michigan Governor Whitmer.
Since my son is for the time being in Michigan and favors and observes the Governor’s restrictions on Death-cult, lawbreaking subhuman republican vermin, I’m taking the President’s threats personally.
I don’t how Biden is going to live up to the both sides do it expectations of the bullshit artists, but there are 26 Republican Governors out there who could use some malicious incentive-inducing threats against their policies from a freedom-loving tree-watering Democratic President who has 780 billion dollars of military savagery at his beck and call.
And this guy:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/17/1987371/-Saturday-Night-Owls-Millionaire-Kudlow-extols-gains-from-wrecked-economy-ignores-damage-to-people
I predict things are going to get very creative when it comes time to hurt that cuck.
Maybe the pandemic-loving hack can run back to CNBC and let Joe Kernan and Jim Cramer resume sucking his dick on a daily basis.
Raise Kudlow’s marginal tax rate to 100% and let it kick in on the FIRST dollar he defrauds from dupe filth.
May his business always be small, like his sadistic character.
May animal spirits feed on his viscera.
Obama was a tyrant!
Obama was a tyrant!
From a UK perspective, this judgment seems utterly unconscionable, barabaric.
Just wondering what kind of damages are awarded against the government in the UK. It appears that abuses happen in the UK, but my quick googling didn’t offer up a result on whether money damages are paid by the government in the UK. I would certainly have been in favor of the corrections officer being convicted of rape, and liable for damages. (I know of cases of abuse in my state where there have been convictions.) Also, the officer would have been personally liable for damages. The problem with the government being liable for money damages (and the rationale for the sovereign immunity doctrine) is that taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for the wrongs of people unless they’re acting within the “scope of employment”. That’s a tricky question, and one that Trump is trying to use in a different way to evade discovery in the case brought by one of his victims. (He says that denying rape is within the scope of his employment as President.)
I’m not opining myself, but without a lot more research, I’m not sure that this particular decision is “barbaric,” even though there should be a way for abused prisoners to obtain restitution or money damages, if even by a special fund.
From a UK perspective, this judgment seems utterly unconscionable, barabaric.
Just wondering what kind of damages are awarded against the government in the UK. It appears that abuses happen in the UK, but my quick googling didn’t offer up a result on whether money damages are paid by the government in the UK. I would certainly have been in favor of the corrections officer being convicted of rape, and liable for damages. (I know of cases of abuse in my state where there have been convictions.) Also, the officer would have been personally liable for damages. The problem with the government being liable for money damages (and the rationale for the sovereign immunity doctrine) is that taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for the wrongs of people unless they’re acting within the “scope of employment”. That’s a tricky question, and one that Trump is trying to use in a different way to evade discovery in the case brought by one of his victims. (He says that denying rape is within the scope of his employment as President.)
I’m not opining myself, but without a lot more research, I’m not sure that this particular decision is “barbaric,” even though there should be a way for abused prisoners to obtain restitution or money damages, if even by a special fund.
Just for discussion, in contrast, the officers who killed Michael Reinoehl seem to have been acting under the authority of the government. They are more likely to be deemed having acted within the scope of their employment. (That’s what it looks like to me, anyway.)
Just for discussion, in contrast, the officers who killed Michael Reinoehl seem to have been acting under the authority of the government. They are more likely to be deemed having acted within the scope of their employment. (That’s what it looks like to me, anyway.)
They knew who he was, they didn’t want to arrest him …
Charitably, Trump was referring to local authorities.
They knew who he was, they didn’t want to arrest him …
Charitably, Trump was referring to local authorities.
from cleek’s link about Van Ausdal:
this election year is not about policy. it’s about insanity vs not-insanity.
I recommend the not-insanity option.
Do authorities have no duty of care towards inmates ?
I have no idea what prison is like anywhere else. In this country, I think the assumption is that being in prison will make you vulnerable to a variety of forms of violence.
We now have a small cottage industry of consultants who will help you prepare for life in jail, if you can afford them.
We also jail a lot of mentally ill people, which generally just makes them much more mentally ill.
We have our good points and our bad points. Our prison regime – at any level, federal state or local – is not one of our good points.
from cleek’s link about Van Ausdal:
this election year is not about policy. it’s about insanity vs not-insanity.
I recommend the not-insanity option.
Do authorities have no duty of care towards inmates ?
I have no idea what prison is like anywhere else. In this country, I think the assumption is that being in prison will make you vulnerable to a variety of forms of violence.
We now have a small cottage industry of consultants who will help you prepare for life in jail, if you can afford them.
We also jail a lot of mentally ill people, which generally just makes them much more mentally ill.
We have our good points and our bad points. Our prison regime – at any level, federal state or local – is not one of our good points.
Charitably, Trump was referring to local authorities.
The local officers involved had been deputized as US marshals.
Charitably, Trump was referring to local authorities.
The local officers involved had been deputized as US marshals.
Our prison regime – at any level, federal state or local – is not one of our good points.
It wasn’t one of our good points before. But since the fad for privately run prisons took hold, things appear to have gotten significantly worse.
Our prison regime – at any level, federal state or local – is not one of our good points.
It wasn’t one of our good points before. But since the fad for privately run prisons took hold, things appear to have gotten significantly worse.
Prisons themselves are barbaric, yes.
Prisons themselves are barbaric, yes.
Here‘s a case from the UK about compensation being awarded for rape by prison staff.
On the one hand, the government accepts liability. On the other, the amount of the compensation is 100 times smaller.
Here‘s a case from the UK about compensation being awarded for rape by prison staff.
On the one hand, the government accepts liability. On the other, the amount of the compensation is 100 times smaller.
… that taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for the wrongs of people unless they’re acting within the “scope of employment”….
I think that’s nonsense.
When you deprive someone of their liberty, you have a duty of care to ensure they are incarcerated in a safe manner. I wouldn’t claim for a moment that the UK is perfect in thus respect, but the law actually recognises that duty of care.
Just telling the mutt that sex with inmates is outside the scope of his employment does not meet that standard.
… that taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for the wrongs of people unless they’re acting within the “scope of employment”….
I think that’s nonsense.
When you deprive someone of their liberty, you have a duty of care to ensure they are incarcerated in a safe manner. I wouldn’t claim for a moment that the UK is perfect in thus respect, but the law actually recognises that duty of care.
Just telling the mutt that sex with inmates is outside the scope of his employment does not meet that standard.
I don’t know how Proud Boys and Incels are going to make a living now that they must find gainful work wherein the scope of their employment does not explicitly include rape and sexual harassment.
Especially now that show biz, prisons, the military and the priesthood have stricken those essential people skills from their job descriptions and employment contracts.
Looks like the Presidency of the United States is the only job left on the planet the poor slobs’ array of talents are most suited for.
And the current lout in the office just hired the Judge who will keep it that way.
I don’t know how Proud Boys and Incels are going to make a living now that they must find gainful work wherein the scope of their employment does not explicitly include rape and sexual harassment.
Especially now that show biz, prisons, the military and the priesthood have stricken those essential people skills from their job descriptions and employment contracts.
Looks like the Presidency of the United States is the only job left on the planet the poor slobs’ array of talents are most suited for.
And the current lout in the office just hired the Judge who will keep it that way.
They are more likely to be deemed having acted within the scope of their employment.
maybe not exactly within.
They are more likely to be deemed having acted within the scope of their employment.
maybe not exactly within.
Political campaigns should be required to hire jungle writers for their musical accompaniment.
The Beatles are very tight regarding how and when their original music is used (hardly ever), but I wonder if they’d look the other way if Trump blared this tune out our rallies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70Z3cvrQd0
Maybe Beck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQsZujjZWs0
Political campaigns should be required to hire jungle writers for their musical accompaniment.
The Beatles are very tight regarding how and when their original music is used (hardly ever), but I wonder if they’d look the other way if Trump blared this tune out our rallies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70Z3cvrQd0
Maybe Beck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQsZujjZWs0
Jungle fits, but maybe jingle is better.
Jungle fits, but maybe jingle is better.
There’s a duty of care required in the US too, and the decision itself applied Wisconsin law, so other states (or federal prisons) might have a different standard. Arguably the state met its duty of care by training staff to care for prisoners under standards that this guard didn’t follow.
I think there should be a way for prisoners to be compensated for abuse suffered at the hands of prison guards (or fellow inmates, for that matter, since prisons should be protecting inmates from each other).
The decision itself is here.
The case has a bad result, but in trying to fix the law, I would focus on a prison’s responsibility to supervise its employees who obviously have an unacceptable degree of independent access and power over prisoners. Whether or not they are acting within the scope of their employment shouldn’t be the standard. It’s possible that the lawyers for the plaintiff should have pursued a separate argument on that basis, but it’s not clear that the state would have waived sovereign immunity to compensate the victim. It’s bad law, for sure.
I’m not a fan of Barrett, but in this case the law should be changed.
There’s a duty of care required in the US too, and the decision itself applied Wisconsin law, so other states (or federal prisons) might have a different standard. Arguably the state met its duty of care by training staff to care for prisoners under standards that this guard didn’t follow.
I think there should be a way for prisoners to be compensated for abuse suffered at the hands of prison guards (or fellow inmates, for that matter, since prisons should be protecting inmates from each other).
The decision itself is here.
The case has a bad result, but in trying to fix the law, I would focus on a prison’s responsibility to supervise its employees who obviously have an unacceptable degree of independent access and power over prisoners. Whether or not they are acting within the scope of their employment shouldn’t be the standard. It’s possible that the lawyers for the plaintiff should have pursued a separate argument on that basis, but it’s not clear that the state would have waived sovereign immunity to compensate the victim. It’s bad law, for sure.
I’m not a fan of Barrett, but in this case the law should be changed.
I’m not a fan of Barrett, but in this case the law should be changed.
Well, opinions differ. (see also the comments thread).
Was this bad judging or bad law? And how would an intellectually honest “textualist” address this case?
I’m not a fan of Barrett, but in this case the law should be changed.
Well, opinions differ. (see also the comments thread).
Was this bad judging or bad law? And how would an intellectually honest “textualist” address this case?
The Wisconsin statute 895.46 reads as follows:
(1)
(a) If the defendant in any action or special proceeding is a public officer or employee and is proceeded against in an official capacity or is proceeded against as an individual because of acts committed while carrying out duties as an officer or employee and the jury or the court finds that the defendant was acting within the scope of employment, the judgment as to damages and costs entered against the officer or employee, except as provided in s. 146.89 (4), in excess of any insurance applicable to the officer or employee shall be paid by the state or political subdivision of which the defendant is an officer or employee. Agents of any department of the state shall be covered by this section while acting within the scope of their agency.
But I am no attorney!
The Wisconsin statute 895.46 reads as follows:
(1)
(a) If the defendant in any action or special proceeding is a public officer or employee and is proceeded against in an official capacity or is proceeded against as an individual because of acts committed while carrying out duties as an officer or employee and the jury or the court finds that the defendant was acting within the scope of employment, the judgment as to damages and costs entered against the officer or employee, except as provided in s. 146.89 (4), in excess of any insurance applicable to the officer or employee shall be paid by the state or political subdivision of which the defendant is an officer or employee. Agents of any department of the state shall be covered by this section while acting within the scope of their agency.
But I am no attorney!
Plaintiff’s brief here.
Plaintiff’s brief here.
The indemnification provision absolves the perpetrator from liability. In other words, if the prison official had been wealthy, the statute would have required the state to pay the damages instead of the prison guard, who would have gotten off scot-free.
That, in fact, is what the sexual assaulter in the Olson case (cited in the Plaintiff’s brief) was trying to do. Although the jury in that case decided that a physician’s sexual assault was part of his treatment of the plaintiff, thereby within the “scope of his employment” as a physician, it wasn’t within the scope of his employment at a clinic (which would have shifted financial liability from him to the clinic) because he wasn’t trying to further any purposes of the clinic.
I wish the prisoner-victim had gotten money, but don’t think the decision is out of line.
The indemnification provision absolves the perpetrator from liability. In other words, if the prison official had been wealthy, the statute would have required the state to pay the damages instead of the prison guard, who would have gotten off scot-free.
That, in fact, is what the sexual assaulter in the Olson case (cited in the Plaintiff’s brief) was trying to do. Although the jury in that case decided that a physician’s sexual assault was part of his treatment of the plaintiff, thereby within the “scope of his employment” as a physician, it wasn’t within the scope of his employment at a clinic (which would have shifted financial liability from him to the clinic) because he wasn’t trying to further any purposes of the clinic.
I wish the prisoner-victim had gotten money, but don’t think the decision is out of line.
So, in order to achieve fairer results for prisoners who are victims of sexual assaults and other abuses, the legislature shouldn’t merely indemnify prison guards, but should impose a stricter standard on prisons for the behavior of their employees (who have the means to commit abuse), whether the employees are acting within the scope of their employment or not.
So, in order to achieve fairer results for prisoners who are victims of sexual assaults and other abuses, the legislature shouldn’t merely indemnify prison guards, but should impose a stricter standard on prisons for the behavior of their employees (who have the means to commit abuse), whether the employees are acting within the scope of their employment or not.
With climate change looming, it’s going to be all that much harder to counter their focus and purposefulness.
With that in mind, add Massachusetts v. EPA to your list of cases. That’s the whole foundation for regulating greenhouse gases under the current version of the Clean Air Act.
I’d be happy to see the filibuster fall to a couple paragraph change to the CAA that explicitly bring at least carbon dioxide directly under the umbrella. Methane is almost as important, but there’s a lot to be worked out for how to approach regulation of livestock “emissions”.
With climate change looming, it’s going to be all that much harder to counter their focus and purposefulness.
With that in mind, add Massachusetts v. EPA to your list of cases. That’s the whole foundation for regulating greenhouse gases under the current version of the Clean Air Act.
I’d be happy to see the filibuster fall to a couple paragraph change to the CAA that explicitly bring at least carbon dioxide directly under the umbrella. Methane is almost as important, but there’s a lot to be worked out for how to approach regulation of livestock “emissions”.
There’s Manchin, King, and probably Feinstein to convince for a start.
If we’re making a somewhat longer list of Senators to worry about, you might add Tester, Bennett, and Sinema. If they win, perhaps Hickenlooper and Bullock. Same list of names, of course, for changing the size of the Supreme Court.
There’s Manchin, King, and probably Feinstein to convince for a start.
If we’re making a somewhat longer list of Senators to worry about, you might add Tester, Bennett, and Sinema. If they win, perhaps Hickenlooper and Bullock. Same list of names, of course, for changing the size of the Supreme Court.
The prison guard that raped the pregnant teenager should be summarily executed.
The person that hired that prison guard should be summarily executed.
The person that hired the person that hired that prison guard should be summarily executed.
Now back to the yodeling llamas.
The prison guard that raped the pregnant teenager should be summarily executed.
The person that hired that prison guard should be summarily executed.
The person that hired the person that hired that prison guard should be summarily executed.
Now back to the yodeling llamas.
The prison guard that raped the pregnant teenager should be summarily executed.
Surely it would be more appropriate to just incarcerate that guard to a prison staffed entirely by guards who molest inmates. Execution, after all, is over so quickly.
The prison guard that raped the pregnant teenager should be summarily executed.
Surely it would be more appropriate to just incarcerate that guard to a prison staffed entirely by guards who molest inmates. Execution, after all, is over so quickly.
Trump:
“If you’re a moderate Democrat or a liberal who knows that your party has gone totally off the rails, you have a moral duty to immediately stop this lunacy. You must, by law, join the Republican Party.”
Bu… but… but, then, there wouldn’t be two sides to do it.
Trump:
“If you’re a moderate Democrat or a liberal who knows that your party has gone totally off the rails, you have a moral duty to immediately stop this lunacy. You must, by law, join the Republican Party.”
Bu… but… but, then, there wouldn’t be two sides to do it.
Speaking of courts, I didn’t even know (or maybe forgot, with all the other evil that he’s brewing) that Trump was trying to end food stamps for 700,000 unemployed people. Grateful for Beryl Howell, DC District Court judge for striking this plan down.
The Trump appellate regime frightens me regarding these kinds of issues.
Speaking of courts, I didn’t even know (or maybe forgot, with all the other evil that he’s brewing) that Trump was trying to end food stamps for 700,000 unemployed people. Grateful for Beryl Howell, DC District Court judge for striking this plan down.
The Trump appellate regime frightens me regarding these kinds of issues.
You must, by law, join the Republican Party
I love that “by law”! Just another example of the fact that he has no concept of what “law” actually means.
You must, by law, join the Republican Party
I love that “by law”! Just another example of the fact that he has no concept of what “law” actually means.
he has no concept of what “law” actually means.
Actually, he has a quite clear concept. It just happens to be totally wrong.
What he thinks it means is “You gotta do whatever I want!”
he has no concept of what “law” actually means.
Actually, he has a quite clear concept. It just happens to be totally wrong.
What he thinks it means is “You gotta do whatever I want!”
oh those Marxists
oh those Marxists
He’s been watching Hamilton ?
Jefferson]
OOOH! Y’know what, we can change that! Y’know why?
[Madison]
Why?
[Jefferson]
‘Cause I’m the president!
He’s been watching Hamilton ?
Jefferson]
OOOH! Y’know what, we can change that! Y’know why?
[Madison]
Why?
[Jefferson]
‘Cause I’m the president!
From the Wall Street Journal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-e6qLb4pwo
Despite the conservative, paranoid CCP authorities blowing their initial response to the pandemic (as America did initially with the “Spanish” Flu, “sending” …. a purposefully freighted word … infected Americans abroad to spread the thing) would American Covid-19 sufferers and all of us trying our best to NOT to be infected by this current pandemic, despite the best efforts of the Republican Party to give it to us, and Trump’s and his vermin’s malignant cheering on of the spread of the virus and adamant, murderous refusal to institute nationwide testing and contact tracing to we, the “Christian” HERD, be better off in China, even in Wuhan at this very moment, instead of in fucking Michigan with its Supreme Murderous Court, or Wisconsin, or South Dakota?
Now, on the whole, the the Chinese Muslim Uyghurs would rather be in Philadelphia.
Or would they? Probably, but still, both countries have their conservative haters and murderers to contend with:
https://www.romper.com/p/the-4-worst-things-trump-has-said-about-muslims-so-far-2569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81P0jqQJYWY
The demonstrators in Hong Kong would rather be in Minneapolis, or would they?
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=video+of+cops+beating+peoole+in+minneapolis&atb=v204-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dnx0rVvlNJQE
The substance of OTHER-hating conservatism comes in a rainbow of ideological flavors, but the base substance is consistent across the board.
I hate ’em all.
At least the virus is ideologically neutral when it comes to its killing.
From the Wall Street Journal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-e6qLb4pwo
Despite the conservative, paranoid CCP authorities blowing their initial response to the pandemic (as America did initially with the “Spanish” Flu, “sending” …. a purposefully freighted word … infected Americans abroad to spread the thing) would American Covid-19 sufferers and all of us trying our best to NOT to be infected by this current pandemic, despite the best efforts of the Republican Party to give it to us, and Trump’s and his vermin’s malignant cheering on of the spread of the virus and adamant, murderous refusal to institute nationwide testing and contact tracing to we, the “Christian” HERD, be better off in China, even in Wuhan at this very moment, instead of in fucking Michigan with its Supreme Murderous Court, or Wisconsin, or South Dakota?
Now, on the whole, the the Chinese Muslim Uyghurs would rather be in Philadelphia.
Or would they? Probably, but still, both countries have their conservative haters and murderers to contend with:
https://www.romper.com/p/the-4-worst-things-trump-has-said-about-muslims-so-far-2569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81P0jqQJYWY
The demonstrators in Hong Kong would rather be in Minneapolis, or would they?
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=video+of+cops+beating+peoole+in+minneapolis&atb=v204-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dnx0rVvlNJQE
The substance of OTHER-hating conservatism comes in a rainbow of ideological flavors, but the base substance is consistent across the board.
I hate ’em all.
At least the virus is ideologically neutral when it comes to its killing.
I won’t be vacationing in Wuhan any time soon, best to be safe, of course, and America probably wouldn’t let me back in if I did, IF China would accept my now discredited and diseased American passport in the first place.
No, but America encourages me to visit South Dakota and breath easy all over my friends and loved ones on my return to Colorado.
What a sick fucking bunch.
I won’t be vacationing in Wuhan any time soon, best to be safe, of course, and America probably wouldn’t let me back in if I did, IF China would accept my now discredited and diseased American passport in the first place.
No, but America encourages me to visit South Dakota and breath easy all over my friends and loved ones on my return to Colorado.
What a sick fucking bunch.
He’s been watching Hamilton ?
Not a chance! Just waaaay too intellectual for him. (I’d bet on independent invention.)
He’s been watching Hamilton ?
Not a chance! Just waaaay too intellectual for him. (I’d bet on independent invention.)
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a34414481/marjorie-taylor-greene-opponent-qanon/
For the Republican Party, this election is merely troop movement into position for Civil War, win or lose.
Don’t listen to the strategic feints by the likes of dupe liars Sasse and Cornyn moving their cannons to the rear.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a34414481/marjorie-taylor-greene-opponent-qanon/
For the Republican Party, this election is merely troop movement into position for Civil War, win or lose.
Don’t listen to the strategic feints by the likes of dupe liars Sasse and Cornyn moving their cannons to the rear.
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/10/neoconfederate-judges-are-an-existential-threat-to-american-democracy
Please steal this election.
PLEASE, CCP conservative republicans, do your worst.
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/10/neoconfederate-judges-are-an-existential-threat-to-american-democracy
Please steal this election.
PLEASE, CCP conservative republicans, do your worst.
Their subhuman God votes as many times as he likes:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/18/photos-donald-trump-goes-church-las-vegas/
I love the masked Secret Service cordoning off the unmasked fangregation, as if there might be a Judas lurking among them to save the country.
Ah, well, there are slot machines in the narthex and threesomes were being planned during the service.
Here’s five $20 bills, God. One day soon I will come to you and request a favor, and you will do me that favor.
Their subhuman God votes as many times as he likes:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/18/photos-donald-trump-goes-church-las-vegas/
I love the masked Secret Service cordoning off the unmasked fangregation, as if there might be a Judas lurking among them to save the country.
Ah, well, there are slot machines in the narthex and threesomes were being planned during the service.
Here’s five $20 bills, God. One day soon I will come to you and request a favor, and you will do me that favor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDlBLvc3YE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDlBLvc3YE
See how his comb over is lit above the beatific smile. Like Beelzebub’s halo as he ascends from his lair.
https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/donald-trump-in-church/
Every follicle says: “I’m going to kill every one of my fucking enemies.”
See how his comb over is lit above the beatific smile. Like Beelzebub’s halo as he ascends from his lair.
https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/donald-trump-in-church/
Every follicle says: “I’m going to kill every one of my fucking enemies.”
Love him or hate him (and I’m not exactly a longtime fan) Michael Gerson can definitely turn a phrase. On today’s GOP:
Although I hadn’t realized that infected tatoos could metastasize.
Love him or hate him (and I’m not exactly a longtime fan) Michael Gerson can definitely turn a phrase. On today’s GOP:
Although I hadn’t realized that infected tatoos could metastasize.
Although I hadn’t realized that infected tatoos could metastasize.
Flesh eating bacteria?
Although I hadn’t realized that infected tatoos could metastasize.
Flesh eating bacteria?
Raping while performing one’s job doesn’t count because it’s outside the official job capacity.
OK.
Denying rape while performing one’s job … welp, that’s an official part of the job.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/nyregion/jean-carroll-trump-rape-lawsuit.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
This country is kinda full of crap.
Raping while performing one’s job doesn’t count because it’s outside the official job capacity.
OK.
Denying rape while performing one’s job … welp, that’s an official part of the job.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/nyregion/jean-carroll-trump-rape-lawsuit.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
This country is kinda full of crap.
Okay, so I knew all about Chuck Tingle and his epic owning of the Sad Puppies during The Hugo Wars, but I totally missed this ever more epic trolling of Epic Shrek himself:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/202917-domald-tromp
I do not want to spoil your discovery of the book titles, or the delightful liner copy and disclaimers. You will have to seek those out yourselves.
Okay, so I knew all about Chuck Tingle and his epic owning of the Sad Puppies during The Hugo Wars, but I totally missed this ever more epic trolling of Epic Shrek himself:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/202917-domald-tromp
I do not want to spoil your discovery of the book titles, or the delightful liner copy and disclaimers. You will have to seek those out yourselves.
Recently, from TPM
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-great-moonwalking-begins
To turn Cookie Monster’s phrase on its head: it’s not a sometimes thing.
Anyone know what Cookie Monster’s phrase is? Or is it that ‘Me want cookie’ is an all time thing?
Recently, from TPM
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-great-moonwalking-begins
To turn Cookie Monster’s phrase on its head: it’s not a sometimes thing.
Anyone know what Cookie Monster’s phrase is? Or is it that ‘Me want cookie’ is an all time thing?
lj — https://www.spoonfulofcomfort.com/blog/7-cookie-quotes-from-cookie-monster/
This quote comes up on the search results page:
“Me Love to Eat Cookies. Sometimes eat whole, sometimes me chew it.”
But this one might be more relevant to the line you quoted from TPM:
“Sometimes me think, what is friend? And then me say: a friend is someone to share last cookie with.”
The TPM article is subscribers-only after a couple of paragraphs. Care to quote a longer passage? Or list more of the rats who are trying to leave the sinking ship? (If only I could believe it was really sinking….)
“He’ll listen to scientists.” Imagine living in a country where to a near approximation half the people are terrified of the prospect. No, don’t imagine it, you’ll get depressed.
lj — https://www.spoonfulofcomfort.com/blog/7-cookie-quotes-from-cookie-monster/
This quote comes up on the search results page:
“Me Love to Eat Cookies. Sometimes eat whole, sometimes me chew it.”
But this one might be more relevant to the line you quoted from TPM:
“Sometimes me think, what is friend? And then me say: a friend is someone to share last cookie with.”
The TPM article is subscribers-only after a couple of paragraphs. Care to quote a longer passage? Or list more of the rats who are trying to leave the sinking ship? (If only I could believe it was really sinking….)
“He’ll listen to scientists.” Imagine living in a country where to a near approximation half the people are terrified of the prospect. No, don’t imagine it, you’ll get depressed.
Sure!
The Great Moonwalking, long foretold, is beginning in advance of President leaving office or even losing office. We are now hearing that even some of President Trump’s most committed lickspittles and toadies were in fact anti-Trump all along, just working secretly, operating from the inside. To borrow the Catholic hierarchy’s usage, they were in pectore members of the resistance.
Last week we had Ben Sasse detailing all the President’s many transgressions in a campaign call he was sure would rapidly make it into the papers. Yesterday John Cornyn, one of the President’s most loyal Senate soldiers, announced that contrary to all appearances he has not in fact loyally supported the President at every turn. In fact he has opposed almost all of his major policy initiatives – just secretly. Cornyn cast himself as an abused wife who has only latterly realized there’s no changing Trump. “Maybe like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well.”
“I think what we found is that we’re not going to change President Trump. He is who he is. You either love him or hate him, and there’s not much in between. What I tried to do is not get into public confrontations and fights with him because, as I’ve observed, those usually don’t end too well.”
“When I have had differences of opinion, which I have, (I) do that privately,” Cornyn said. “I have found that has allowed me to be much more effective, I believe, than to satisfy those who say I ought to call him out or get into a public fight with him.”
Cornyn has a clear advantage but is in a competitive race with Democrat MJ Hegar. These statements were almost certainly driven by recent polling. I doubt it was Cornyn’s own polling directly but rather Trump’s. I suspect Cornyn’s internal polls show a real chance – not a likelihood but a real chance – that Trump will be overwhelmed in Texas. In those kind of 500 year political floods everyone can get washed away.
We saw this before, albeit in the far less extreme case of President George W. Bush. Bush was on the skids with the public almost from the moment he won reelection in 2004. He faced a Democratic wave election in 2006 and a second in 2008 when he was no longer on the ballot. As soon as he was out of office Republicans who had loyally supported almost every move suddenly decided that Bush was a proponent of something called “big government conservatism” that they’re never supported or had any truck with at all. It all happened on a dime and allowed Republican partisans to rebrand themselves as freedom fighters amidst the wreckage of their own creation in 2009 and 2010.
Cornyn is right about one thing: Trumpism is all or nothing. To turn Cookie Monster’s phrase on its head: it’s not a sometimes thing. You’re for or against. No one survives trying to find a middle position. We are about to see numerous Republicans attempting to rewrite the history we have all witnessed recently with such anguish, claiming they never supported Trump and in fact were secret opponents on the inside. If Trump loses Republicans will try to push the whole disgraceful history into the memory hole. Whether they will be able to sustainedly is another question because we all remember and also because President Trump himself, still a warlord controlling a broken GOP, won’t let them.
Sure!
The Great Moonwalking, long foretold, is beginning in advance of President leaving office or even losing office. We are now hearing that even some of President Trump’s most committed lickspittles and toadies were in fact anti-Trump all along, just working secretly, operating from the inside. To borrow the Catholic hierarchy’s usage, they were in pectore members of the resistance.
Last week we had Ben Sasse detailing all the President’s many transgressions in a campaign call he was sure would rapidly make it into the papers. Yesterday John Cornyn, one of the President’s most loyal Senate soldiers, announced that contrary to all appearances he has not in fact loyally supported the President at every turn. In fact he has opposed almost all of his major policy initiatives – just secretly. Cornyn cast himself as an abused wife who has only latterly realized there’s no changing Trump. “Maybe like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well.”
“I think what we found is that we’re not going to change President Trump. He is who he is. You either love him or hate him, and there’s not much in between. What I tried to do is not get into public confrontations and fights with him because, as I’ve observed, those usually don’t end too well.”
“When I have had differences of opinion, which I have, (I) do that privately,” Cornyn said. “I have found that has allowed me to be much more effective, I believe, than to satisfy those who say I ought to call him out or get into a public fight with him.”
Cornyn has a clear advantage but is in a competitive race with Democrat MJ Hegar. These statements were almost certainly driven by recent polling. I doubt it was Cornyn’s own polling directly but rather Trump’s. I suspect Cornyn’s internal polls show a real chance – not a likelihood but a real chance – that Trump will be overwhelmed in Texas. In those kind of 500 year political floods everyone can get washed away.
We saw this before, albeit in the far less extreme case of President George W. Bush. Bush was on the skids with the public almost from the moment he won reelection in 2004. He faced a Democratic wave election in 2006 and a second in 2008 when he was no longer on the ballot. As soon as he was out of office Republicans who had loyally supported almost every move suddenly decided that Bush was a proponent of something called “big government conservatism” that they’re never supported or had any truck with at all. It all happened on a dime and allowed Republican partisans to rebrand themselves as freedom fighters amidst the wreckage of their own creation in 2009 and 2010.
Cornyn is right about one thing: Trumpism is all or nothing. To turn Cookie Monster’s phrase on its head: it’s not a sometimes thing. You’re for or against. No one survives trying to find a middle position. We are about to see numerous Republicans attempting to rewrite the history we have all witnessed recently with such anguish, claiming they never supported Trump and in fact were secret opponents on the inside. If Trump loses Republicans will try to push the whole disgraceful history into the memory hole. Whether they will be able to sustainedly is another question because we all remember and also because President Trump himself, still a warlord controlling a broken GOP, won’t let them.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/supreme-court-pennsylvania-election-law-order.html
via LGM
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/supreme-court-pennsylvania-election-law-order.html
via LGM
All that moonwalking stuff makes me nervous, because I still think Trump, the court etc could pull it off for him. In which case the moonwalk for all his enablers would be more like the hokey-cokey.
All that moonwalking stuff makes me nervous, because I still think Trump, the court etc could pull it off for him. In which case the moonwalk for all his enablers would be more like the hokey-cokey.
Yes, I saw the Cornyn quotes and quietly vomited.
On the bright side, I can’t see that expressing such weakness will endear him much to Texas Republicans.
Yes, I saw the Cornyn quotes and quietly vomited.
On the bright side, I can’t see that expressing such weakness will endear him much to Texas Republicans.
Thanks, lj. 🙂
I’m with GftNC on the hokey-pokey, as we call it over here. I wish all these pundits would basically just shut up. There might be some satisfaction in having a bunch of Rs turning on Clickbait, but that’s not even what they’re doing, it’s all for show, they don’t give a damn either way as long as they get elected again themselves.
I know I’ve posted this before, but it’s one of the best passages ever written about these people, even if it did come from the pen of George Will, so here it is again:
Of course, this thought train is beyond the comprehension of the Sasses and Cornyns and Collinses and Romneys of the world. If it weren’t, they would all have stood up by now and said they wouldn’t vote on a SCOTUS nominee right now, not even if it’s after the election but before a Biden inauguration. Susan Collins apparently thinks she has threaded the proper line by saying she won’t vote until she knows whether Clickbait is a lame duck president (my phrasing, not hers), but she thinks it’s perfectly fine for a lame duck Senate to vote no matter who wins the presidency. That’s the opening Miss Weasel Words has left herself, anyhow.
She is the perfect example of what Will says. With the Kavanaugh vote she was in a cleft stick: alienate her base and her big donors, or alienate all the crossover voters who kept her in office for so long. She made her choice. In two weeks we’ll know if she paid dearly, or, hopefully more to the point, how dearly she paid.
Thanks, lj. 🙂
I’m with GftNC on the hokey-pokey, as we call it over here. I wish all these pundits would basically just shut up. There might be some satisfaction in having a bunch of Rs turning on Clickbait, but that’s not even what they’re doing, it’s all for show, they don’t give a damn either way as long as they get elected again themselves.
I know I’ve posted this before, but it’s one of the best passages ever written about these people, even if it did come from the pen of George Will, so here it is again:
Of course, this thought train is beyond the comprehension of the Sasses and Cornyns and Collinses and Romneys of the world. If it weren’t, they would all have stood up by now and said they wouldn’t vote on a SCOTUS nominee right now, not even if it’s after the election but before a Biden inauguration. Susan Collins apparently thinks she has threaded the proper line by saying she won’t vote until she knows whether Clickbait is a lame duck president (my phrasing, not hers), but she thinks it’s perfectly fine for a lame duck Senate to vote no matter who wins the presidency. That’s the opening Miss Weasel Words has left herself, anyhow.
She is the perfect example of what Will says. With the Kavanaugh vote she was in a cleft stick: alienate her base and her big donors, or alienate all the crossover voters who kept her in office for so long. She made her choice. In two weeks we’ll know if she paid dearly, or, hopefully more to the point, how dearly she paid.
There’s an interesting piece in today’s NYT headlined The Real Divide in America Is Between Political Junkies and Everyone Else. It talks about the hierarchy of concerns within, respectively, Rs and Ds who belong to the political junky class (comprising 15-20% of the population to which, I think almost by definition, we here all belong) and Rs and Ds in the rest of the population. The difference is stark, and important for Biden (if he should, DV, get elected) to take into account.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/opinion/polarization-politics-americans.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
There’s an interesting piece in today’s NYT headlined The Real Divide in America Is Between Political Junkies and Everyone Else. It talks about the hierarchy of concerns within, respectively, Rs and Ds who belong to the political junky class (comprising 15-20% of the population to which, I think almost by definition, we here all belong) and Rs and Ds in the rest of the population. The difference is stark, and important for Biden (if he should, DV, get elected) to take into account.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/opinion/polarization-politics-americans.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/19/1987944/-The-more-Boogaloo-activists-at-Michigan-rally-spoke-the-more-ominous-sounding-they-became
One side has some catching up to do.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/19/1987944/-The-more-Boogaloo-activists-at-Michigan-rally-spoke-the-more-ominous-sounding-they-became
One side has some catching up to do.
That vermin dude in the video is roughly 65 miles from my son.
Good to know for future reference.
Meanwhile, right wing republican, now mainstream, scum politicians in Michigan are fighting this rule as well:
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-16/michigan-ban-open-carry-of-guns-polling-places
Well, then both sides should do it.
The Republican Party wants to count corpses, not votes, to decide who wins this election.
That vermin dude in the video is roughly 65 miles from my son.
Good to know for future reference.
Meanwhile, right wing republican, now mainstream, scum politicians in Michigan are fighting this rule as well:
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-16/michigan-ban-open-carry-of-guns-polling-places
Well, then both sides should do it.
The Republican Party wants to count corpses, not votes, to decide who wins this election.
Cancel culture in Texas:
https://lenexweb.com/texas-passes-new-discriminatory-rule-social-workers-can-deny-lgbtq-or-disabled-clients/
The scum who do this to their fellow humans call themselves Christians.
Cancel culture in Texas:
https://lenexweb.com/texas-passes-new-discriminatory-rule-social-workers-can-deny-lgbtq-or-disabled-clients/
The scum who do this to their fellow humans call themselves Christians.
I can’t say I’m surprised that Abbott and Co would do that to LGBTQ folks. That’s right in their wheelhouse.
But the disabled??? Maybe they were having trouble reaching a new low — admittedly a challenge for them these days — and reached for some low hanging fruit.
I can’t say I’m surprised that Abbott and Co would do that to LGBTQ folks. That’s right in their wheelhouse.
But the disabled??? Maybe they were having trouble reaching a new low — admittedly a challenge for them these days — and reached for some low hanging fruit.
I personally know people — young people, in fact, the up and coming movers and shakers of the Maine R party — who go on about how in the good old days people with disabilities were cared for by family and church communities. Other people’s money (i.e. taxes) should not be used for such purposes.
And that’s only if they’re talking about people with obvious and provable disabilities. The stuff they say about people who suffer from more difficult to diagnose, often invisible conditions like chronic pain is utterly vile.
This isn’t a new low for them. It’s a completely consistent ongoing one.
I personally know people — young people, in fact, the up and coming movers and shakers of the Maine R party — who go on about how in the good old days people with disabilities were cared for by family and church communities. Other people’s money (i.e. taxes) should not be used for such purposes.
And that’s only if they’re talking about people with obvious and provable disabilities. The stuff they say about people who suffer from more difficult to diagnose, often invisible conditions like chronic pain is utterly vile.
This isn’t a new low for them. It’s a completely consistent ongoing one.
Do I need to spell out that they are anti-vaxxers too, and COVID-seriousness-deniers?
Do I need to spell out that they are anti-vaxxers too, and COVID-seriousness-deniers?
The NYT column neglects to mention the important point that 40%, give or take, of the voting eligible population doesn’t vote in presidential years (number is higher in off-year elections). So the 20% of political junkies make up a third of the electorate (more in off-years).
Also, I suspect there are significant fractions of the non-junky voters who have strong single-issue opinions (anti-abortion, pro-gun, pro-choice).
The NYT column neglects to mention the important point that 40%, give or take, of the voting eligible population doesn’t vote in presidential years (number is higher in off-year elections). So the 20% of political junkies make up a third of the electorate (more in off-years).
Also, I suspect there are significant fractions of the non-junky voters who have strong single-issue opinions (anti-abortion, pro-gun, pro-choice).
Not to mention a possibly significant chunk of the non-junkys, who keep peace in the homestead by just voting however the junky thinks. Because, after all, it’s all about stuff which (per the article) doesn’t really matter much anyway.
Not to mention a possibly significant chunk of the non-junkys, who keep peace in the homestead by just voting however the junky thinks. Because, after all, it’s all about stuff which (per the article) doesn’t really matter much anyway.
But the disabled???
especially since Abbott himself is wheelchair-bound.
But the disabled???
especially since Abbott himself is wheelchair-bound.
But, Abbott wheels himself on water.
But, Abbott wheels himself on water.
It gives him a leg up from a standing start.
It gives him a leg up from a standing start.
Stalin might ask: How many divisions does the League of Women Voters have?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/firm-sued-for-recruiting-former-special-ops-to-patrol-minnesota-polling-places
Cease and desist GOP.
Now!
You really do NOT want to go a single step further in the direction you are taking your short fucking lives.
Stalin might ask: How many divisions does the League of Women Voters have?
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/firm-sued-for-recruiting-former-special-ops-to-patrol-minnesota-polling-places
Cease and desist GOP.
Now!
You really do NOT want to go a single step further in the direction you are taking your short fucking lives.
Now JDT, it’s not just those scary League of Women Voters types.** There’s also all them Senior Citizens, who are the majority of poll workers most places. Get some actual adults butting in on would-be pranks, and who knows what might happen? Maybe even (shudder!) nothing. And after all these months of frantic fearmongering, too!
** After all, wasn’t that long ago they bulldozed their way into getting the vote. Next thing you know, they’ll be trying to turn this into some kind of democracy. And not a guided one either.
Now JDT, it’s not just those scary League of Women Voters types.** There’s also all them Senior Citizens, who are the majority of poll workers most places. Get some actual adults butting in on would-be pranks, and who knows what might happen? Maybe even (shudder!) nothing. And after all these months of frantic fearmongering, too!
** After all, wasn’t that long ago they bulldozed their way into getting the vote. Next thing you know, they’ll be trying to turn this into some kind of democracy. And not a guided one either.
I hope these aren’t among the measures Marty wants to see employed to make voting more difficult:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/20/1988092/-Coincidence-DeJoy-s-U-S-Postal-Service-sabotage-hitting-swing-states-communities-of-color
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/20/1988053/-On-duty-Miami-cop-wore-a-pro-Trump-mask-to-a-polling-location-and-it-may-cost-him-his-job
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/us/poll-worker-fired-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html
I wish the Black Panthers would get back in the game.
I hope these aren’t among the measures Marty wants to see employed to make voting more difficult:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/20/1988092/-Coincidence-DeJoy-s-U-S-Postal-Service-sabotage-hitting-swing-states-communities-of-color
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/20/1988053/-On-duty-Miami-cop-wore-a-pro-Trump-mask-to-a-polling-location-and-it-may-cost-him-his-job
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/us/poll-worker-fired-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html
I wish the Black Panthers would get back in the game.
Only a headline; haven’t even had a moment to open it. But waaaay to good not to share.
McConnell warns White House against making stimulus deal before election
McConnell’s not dumb enough to believe waiting helps Trump. So he must have decided Biden will win, and this is step one on a reprise of the “wreck everything” approach he used on Obama.
Only a headline; haven’t even had a moment to open it. But waaaay to good not to share.
McConnell warns White House against making stimulus deal before election
McConnell’s not dumb enough to believe waiting helps Trump. So he must have decided Biden will win, and this is step one on a reprise of the “wreck everything” approach he used on Obama.
McConnell says the wicked Pelosi is trying to game things so that the stimulus vote wreck the vote on Justice Handmaid.
because he’s a liar.
McConnell says the wicked Pelosi is trying to game things so that the stimulus vote wreck the vote on Justice Handmaid.
because he’s a liar.
Well, good on her for the unintended side effect, if it happens.
But since, unlike McConnell, Pelosi shows signs of general patriotic sentiment (admittedly, the comparison is a bit of a gimme), she seems unlikely to have stalled all this time for that. Not to mention the niggling question of how, back when negotiations were dragging thru the summer, she guessed RBG wouldn’t make the new year and she’d need a stall.
Well, good on her for the unintended side effect, if it happens.
But since, unlike McConnell, Pelosi shows signs of general patriotic sentiment (admittedly, the comparison is a bit of a gimme), she seems unlikely to have stalled all this time for that. Not to mention the niggling question of how, back when negotiations were dragging thru the summer, she guessed RBG wouldn’t make the new year and she’d need a stall.
I don’t want the subject of Gov. Abbott to get too far in the past without making note of the following, from Wikipedia:
I don’t want the subject of Gov. Abbott to get too far in the past without making note of the following, from Wikipedia:
But the disabled???
Purely speculation… All of the states are suffering from budget crises. Disabled people account for a disproportionate share of total Medicaid expenses.
All states do insane things when there’s a sudden very large hole in their revenue streams, accompanied by an increase demand for their services.
But the disabled???
Purely speculation… All of the states are suffering from budget crises. Disabled people account for a disproportionate share of total Medicaid expenses.
All states do insane things when there’s a sudden very large hole in their revenue streams, accompanied by an increase demand for their services.
but nothing as insane as … raising taxes to pay for things.
but nothing as insane as … raising taxes to pay for things.
Oh. All states do it. Well that’s all right then.
Oh. All states do it. Well that’s all right then.
I wish the Black Panthers would get back in the game.
I give you the NFAC .
All states do insane things
No, they don’t.
I wish the Black Panthers would get back in the game.
I give you the NFAC .
All states do insane things
No, they don’t.
All states do insane things
I’ll grant you
All states are tempted to do insane things, when funds suddenly run tight.
But well run ones, those run by adults, generally resist the temptation.
All states do insane things
I’ll grant you
All states are tempted to do insane things, when funds suddenly run tight.
But well run ones, those run by adults, generally resist the temptation.
Place your bets…Election bet tracking.
Election Betting Odds:
“Donald Trump will probably lose the election.
As I write, The Economist says he has only an 8% chance of winning.
Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight, which came closest to predicting Trump’s win in 2016 and has the best track record among modelers, gives Trump just a 12% chance.
But people who “put money where their mouths are” give Trump a better chance: 37%.
That’s according to ElectionBettingOdds.com, the website I created with Maxim Lott. It tracks multiple betting sites around the world.
Though 61%-37% seems like a giant lead for Joe Biden, 37% means Trump is likely to win one-third of the time.”
Will Trump Beat the Odds? Are You Willing to Bet on It?: Betting sites have a better record of predicting election outcomes than most polls and pundits.
Place your bets…Election bet tracking.
Election Betting Odds:
“Donald Trump will probably lose the election.
As I write, The Economist says he has only an 8% chance of winning.
Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight, which came closest to predicting Trump’s win in 2016 and has the best track record among modelers, gives Trump just a 12% chance.
But people who “put money where their mouths are” give Trump a better chance: 37%.
That’s according to ElectionBettingOdds.com, the website I created with Maxim Lott. It tracks multiple betting sites around the world.
Though 61%-37% seems like a giant lead for Joe Biden, 37% means Trump is likely to win one-third of the time.”
Will Trump Beat the Odds? Are You Willing to Bet on It?: Betting sites have a better record of predicting election outcomes than most polls and pundits.
Will Jabbabonk win in a fair fight? No.
Will he win the popular vote? No.
Will he win? Depends on how brazen GOP shenanigans will be.
My bet is that in several states the (presidential) election will end up in the courts. All bets are off, if GOP run states should use their prerogative to ignore the popular vote and to name the electors by vote of the legislative body. Assuming that by then SCOTUS has the new justice seated, I will not put bets against a new Bush v. Gore (although my guess is that in that case it will be 5-4 not 6-3 with Roberts unwilling to sacrifice his reputation).
Will Jabbabonk win in a fair fight? No.
Will he win the popular vote? No.
Will he win? Depends on how brazen GOP shenanigans will be.
My bet is that in several states the (presidential) election will end up in the courts. All bets are off, if GOP run states should use their prerogative to ignore the popular vote and to name the electors by vote of the legislative body. Assuming that by then SCOTUS has the new justice seated, I will not put bets against a new Bush v. Gore (although my guess is that in that case it will be 5-4 not 6-3 with Roberts unwilling to sacrifice his reputation).
but nothing as insane as … raising taxes to pay for things.
No one wants to believe it, but there is a pretty hard political limit to what the combined state and local tax burden can be as a percentage of GDP. With very few exceptions it runs in the 9-12% range (towards the low end in conservative states and the high end in more liberal ones). I call it a political limit because legislators that vote to go beyond that limit find themselves out of a job come the next election, replaced by people who will reverse the tax increases.
Show of hands — who thinks that with tens of millions newly unemployed, facing higher costs for big-ticket things like health insurance, that increasing the tax burden is a winning political move? With the exception of New Hampshire, no state government is allowed to borrow money to use for operating expenses so services are cut. I’ll admit that reducing eligibility for Medicaid is unusual — the more common targets are higher ed and roads. When Medicaid is targeted, it’s usually by reducing payouts to providers. Which has its own set of problems: providers start turning away Medicaid patients or providers of specialty services (ie, those required by people with disabilities) go out of business.
I was on my state’s legislative budget staff during the first two years of the Great Recession. It was ugly — as the chair of the Joint Budget Committee put it, “We know we’re making decisions that will kill people; all we get to do is decide which people.” It would have been even uglier except the federal government “printed” large amounts of money and gave it to the states. A decade and a bit on, the national Republicans have decided to let the states twist in the wind instead.
but nothing as insane as … raising taxes to pay for things.
No one wants to believe it, but there is a pretty hard political limit to what the combined state and local tax burden can be as a percentage of GDP. With very few exceptions it runs in the 9-12% range (towards the low end in conservative states and the high end in more liberal ones). I call it a political limit because legislators that vote to go beyond that limit find themselves out of a job come the next election, replaced by people who will reverse the tax increases.
Show of hands — who thinks that with tens of millions newly unemployed, facing higher costs for big-ticket things like health insurance, that increasing the tax burden is a winning political move? With the exception of New Hampshire, no state government is allowed to borrow money to use for operating expenses so services are cut. I’ll admit that reducing eligibility for Medicaid is unusual — the more common targets are higher ed and roads. When Medicaid is targeted, it’s usually by reducing payouts to providers. Which has its own set of problems: providers start turning away Medicaid patients or providers of specialty services (ie, those required by people with disabilities) go out of business.
I was on my state’s legislative budget staff during the first two years of the Great Recession. It was ugly — as the chair of the Joint Budget Committee put it, “We know we’re making decisions that will kill people; all we get to do is decide which people.” It would have been even uglier except the federal government “printed” large amounts of money and gave it to the states. A decade and a bit on, the national Republicans have decided to let the states twist in the wind instead.
IIRC, CA ran into a budget problem back in the Grey Davis days(?) and wound up printing IOUs as an interim measure.
Not quite ‘legal tender’, but more of a ‘bearer bond’. Legal? Necessary.
There may be more of that at some point.
IIRC, CA ran into a budget problem back in the Grey Davis days(?) and wound up printing IOUs as an interim measure.
Not quite ‘legal tender’, but more of a ‘bearer bond’. Legal? Necessary.
There may be more of that at some point.
things cost money. it’s time people learned that.
things cost money. it’s time people learned that.
“We know we’re making decisions that will kill people; all we get to do is decide which people.”
Since they are deciding “which” post-born people to kill, all politicians and judges and their clearly identified, by name and address, financial sponsors in the so-called private sector, and their advocates in the so-called news media, should be required by law to identify by name the specific individuals they expect to be killed by their policy choices, and notices, required by each bit of legislation, should be sent out to those individuals alerting them to the threats with the names of the politicians whom are killing them, clearly identified, and not in the small print, since, except for those young people sent off to war, the rest of us are pretty much in the dark about who is trying to kill us at all times, though I have a pretty good idea who they are.
Sort of an explicit statement of “foreseen consequences”.
Politicians should also be required to attend the funeral services of every individual among their constituency they have murdered.
It will be interesting, at the very least, to see how conservative political positions that expand so-called Second Amendment rights, not to mention populist political platforms, fare under these new rules.
“A decade and a bit on, the national Republicans have decided to let the states twist in the wind instead.”
Start NOW.
Let’s make America a more “interesting” experiment.
“We know we’re making decisions that will kill people; all we get to do is decide which people.”
Since they are deciding “which” post-born people to kill, all politicians and judges and their clearly identified, by name and address, financial sponsors in the so-called private sector, and their advocates in the so-called news media, should be required by law to identify by name the specific individuals they expect to be killed by their policy choices, and notices, required by each bit of legislation, should be sent out to those individuals alerting them to the threats with the names of the politicians whom are killing them, clearly identified, and not in the small print, since, except for those young people sent off to war, the rest of us are pretty much in the dark about who is trying to kill us at all times, though I have a pretty good idea who they are.
Sort of an explicit statement of “foreseen consequences”.
Politicians should also be required to attend the funeral services of every individual among their constituency they have murdered.
It will be interesting, at the very least, to see how conservative political positions that expand so-called Second Amendment rights, not to mention populist political platforms, fare under these new rules.
“A decade and a bit on, the national Republicans have decided to let the states twist in the wind instead.”
Start NOW.
Let’s make America a more “interesting” experiment.
I see the subhuman Republican Party, probably assisted by their foreign paymasters, are already kind of aligning with my plan detailed above, and are sending out their own warning notices on behalf of their chosen killer:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/voters-in-at-least-two-states-received-threatening-email-to-vote-for-trump-or-else
I see the subhuman Republican Party, probably assisted by their foreign paymasters, are already kind of aligning with my plan detailed above, and are sending out their own warning notices on behalf of their chosen killer:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/voters-in-at-least-two-states-received-threatening-email-to-vote-for-trump-or-else
Look what Hunter Biden did:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/white-house-5g-spectrum-no-bid-contract-rivada/index.html
Look what Hunter Biden did:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/white-house-5g-spectrum-no-bid-contract-rivada/index.html
I’ll admit that reducing eligibility for Medicaid is unusual
What seems most unusual to me is the provision for denying social services to disabled people.
I know that, when things are tight, certain programs end up on the chopping block. And those programs often serve specific marginalized populations of various types, including people with disabilities of one kind or another.
I’m not sure I’m aware of a state specifically authorizing service providers to deny service to disabled people. Other than TX, in this case.
Maybe we’re all misunderstanding what’s going on in TX. Or, maybe not.
sending out their own warning notices
Marty says when (D)’s can’t win, they want to change the rules.
When (R)’s can’t win, they cheat. Cheat, steal, and lie.
They have become a party that is not fit to participate in a responsible self-governing polity.
It’s possible that (R)’s will suffer big losses in two weeks. Should things play out that way, they could take some constructive lessons away from the experience.
Based on recent history, I’d say they are unlikely to do so.
I look forward to them becoming an irrelevance. May that day come soon.
I’ll admit that reducing eligibility for Medicaid is unusual
What seems most unusual to me is the provision for denying social services to disabled people.
I know that, when things are tight, certain programs end up on the chopping block. And those programs often serve specific marginalized populations of various types, including people with disabilities of one kind or another.
I’m not sure I’m aware of a state specifically authorizing service providers to deny service to disabled people. Other than TX, in this case.
Maybe we’re all misunderstanding what’s going on in TX. Or, maybe not.
sending out their own warning notices
Marty says when (D)’s can’t win, they want to change the rules.
When (R)’s can’t win, they cheat. Cheat, steal, and lie.
They have become a party that is not fit to participate in a responsible self-governing polity.
It’s possible that (R)’s will suffer big losses in two weeks. Should things play out that way, they could take some constructive lessons away from the experience.
Based on recent history, I’d say they are unlikely to do so.
I look forward to them becoming an irrelevance. May that day come soon.
Look what Hunter Biden did
It’s the Putin model. Take public goods, privatize them, and hand them out to your cronies.
Another four years of Trump will turn this country into Putin-era Russia. Probably without the poisoning of political enemies, but one never knows. Opioids and firearm-assisted suicide instead of death by vodka.
There’s a reason Trump is so deferential to Putin. And all of the other thugs he seems to fall in love with. The authoritarian kleptocratic state is the model.
Look what Hunter Biden did
It’s the Putin model. Take public goods, privatize them, and hand them out to your cronies.
Another four years of Trump will turn this country into Putin-era Russia. Probably without the poisoning of political enemies, but one never knows. Opioids and firearm-assisted suicide instead of death by vodka.
There’s a reason Trump is so deferential to Putin. And all of the other thugs he seems to fall in love with. The authoritarian kleptocratic state is the model.
I’m not sure I’m aware of a state specifically authorizing service providers to deny service to disabled people. Other than TX, in this case. Maybe we’re all misunderstanding what’s going on in TX. Or, maybe not.
Digging a bit further, it’s not a budget thing at all. My bad. The explanation given is that Texas statute forbids discrimination on a number of grounds (eg religion or race), but not LGBTQ or disabilities. The official state code of conduct for social workers included LGBTQ and disabled as additional categories. The governor appears to have said the state board that oversees that code had exceeded its authority by adding categories beyond the statutory ones. The board then voted to remove the non-statutory classes. I don’t know Texas case law at all; the governor’s argument may be entirely correct, or complete nonsense.
Workers would still have to conform to the ADA and any that are nationally accredited would be bound by that code, which covers LGBTQ and the disabled.
My guess, given the timing, is now “whip up the base.”
I’m not sure I’m aware of a state specifically authorizing service providers to deny service to disabled people. Other than TX, in this case. Maybe we’re all misunderstanding what’s going on in TX. Or, maybe not.
Digging a bit further, it’s not a budget thing at all. My bad. The explanation given is that Texas statute forbids discrimination on a number of grounds (eg religion or race), but not LGBTQ or disabilities. The official state code of conduct for social workers included LGBTQ and disabled as additional categories. The governor appears to have said the state board that oversees that code had exceeded its authority by adding categories beyond the statutory ones. The board then voted to remove the non-statutory classes. I don’t know Texas case law at all; the governor’s argument may be entirely correct, or complete nonsense.
Workers would still have to conform to the ADA and any that are nationally accredited would be bound by that code, which covers LGBTQ and the disabled.
My guess, given the timing, is now “whip up the base.”
There’s a reason Trump is so deferential to Putin. And all of the other thugs he seems to fall in love with. The authoritarian kleptocratic state is the model.
It’s how he runs his companies. And he was elected on a platform of, essentially, bringing his business expertise/views to government. So why wouldn’t he?
That’s what, whether they knew/admitted it or not, his supporters opted for. That he hasn’t delivered better (maybe have any military wounded and, even if only temporarily, not combat ready given immediate General Discharges) must be put down to incompetence. Certainly not lack of committment on his part to stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down. For himself, not them; they’re just the shills.
There’s a reason Trump is so deferential to Putin. And all of the other thugs he seems to fall in love with. The authoritarian kleptocratic state is the model.
It’s how he runs his companies. And he was elected on a platform of, essentially, bringing his business expertise/views to government. So why wouldn’t he?
That’s what, whether they knew/admitted it or not, his supporters opted for. That he hasn’t delivered better (maybe have any military wounded and, even if only temporarily, not combat ready given immediate General Discharges) must be put down to incompetence. Certainly not lack of committment on his part to stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down. For himself, not them; they’re just the shills.
What WERE the Founders thinking?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/could-third-amendment-protect-against-infection/616791/
Fascinating.
I’m sure it was a personal opinion, or they read it in Reason Magazine, by the Founders that they didn’t much care for dying of smallpox contracted from quartered troops and then, like a light bulb going on over their heads (no, they didn’t know about light bulbs, so THAT couldn’t be), it occurred to them, like Archimedes declaring “Eureka!!” when he stepped into his bath and noticed the phenomenon of water displacement, that many others shared their opinion.
Could be once again relevant when the Republican Party begins once again to quarter troops in wombs.
What WERE the Founders thinking?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/could-third-amendment-protect-against-infection/616791/
Fascinating.
I’m sure it was a personal opinion, or they read it in Reason Magazine, by the Founders that they didn’t much care for dying of smallpox contracted from quartered troops and then, like a light bulb going on over their heads (no, they didn’t know about light bulbs, so THAT couldn’t be), it occurred to them, like Archimedes declaring “Eureka!!” when he stepped into his bath and noticed the phenomenon of water displacement, that many others shared their opinion.
Could be once again relevant when the Republican Party begins once again to quarter troops in wombs.
No one wants to believe it, but there is a pretty hard political limit to what the combined state and local tax burden can be as a percentage of GDP. With very few exceptions it runs in the 9-12% range (towards the low end).
Just as a thought exercise, Michael, try taking this and replacing “tax burden” with something like “share of the GDP going to the very richest”. (And say “No libertarian” rather than “No one” at the beginning, of course.)
Wonder where it runs? We can look at when the Gilded Age spun up the Progressives. Or we could look at our New Gilded Age. Give us a couple of data points to start from.
No one wants to believe it, but there is a pretty hard political limit to what the combined state and local tax burden can be as a percentage of GDP. With very few exceptions it runs in the 9-12% range (towards the low end).
Just as a thought exercise, Michael, try taking this and replacing “tax burden” with something like “share of the GDP going to the very richest”. (And say “No libertarian” rather than “No one” at the beginning, of course.)
Wonder where it runs? We can look at when the Gilded Age spun up the Progressives. Or we could look at our New Gilded Age. Give us a couple of data points to start from.
Keep in mind that Trump spent 90 minutes learning all there is to know, and more than anyone else knows, about nuclear annihilation.
Larison:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trumps-arms-control-farce/
And somehow he did it without READING a single word during those 90 minutes.
Keep in mind that Trump spent 90 minutes learning all there is to know, and more than anyone else knows, about nuclear annihilation.
Larison:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/trumps-arms-control-farce/
And somehow he did it without READING a single word during those 90 minutes.
speaking of cheaters.
speaking of cheaters.
I don’t see any solution to this conservative, subhuman EVIL other than savage violence on a national scale:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/20/1988202/-BREAKING-DeJoy-Pulling-All-Postal-Cops-Off-Duty-2-Weeks-Before-Election
They’ve killed The Rule of Law.
In its absence, all is possible.
I don’t see any solution to this conservative, subhuman EVIL other than savage violence on a national scale:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/20/1988202/-BREAKING-DeJoy-Pulling-All-Postal-Cops-Off-Duty-2-Weeks-Before-Election
They’ve killed The Rule of Law.
In its absence, all is possible.
via Digby:
‘Philip Bump of the Washington Post reported on Tuesday that a recent Yahoo/YouGov poll showed that while a minority of GOP voters say they believe in QAnon, 50% of Republicans (fifty percent! That’s half of them!) claim to believe that high-level Democrats are involved in child sex-trafficking rings, and more than 50% believe that Donald Trump is working behind the scenes to dismantle them. This idea goes back to 2016 and Pizzagate, so it’s possible that many of these Republicans don’t even know they’re spouting QAnon conspiracy theories. But what’s the difference? Clearly tens of millions of Republicans have, as Joe Biden said on the stump the other day, “gone ’round the bend.”’
My approach is more and more along the lines of becoming, in spades, what the conservative republican enemy accuses me of being.
Though I have to admit I don’t find Republican children in any way either attractive or appetizing, so I’m at a bit of a loss regarding how to proceed.
Maybe deport all American Republican parents from the country while confining their separated children to domestic re-education camps to fatten them up to become normal kids who like pizza and, eventually, high tax-rate paying citizens:
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/10/we-have-been-governed-by-4-years-by-the-worst-people-on-earth
via Digby:
‘Philip Bump of the Washington Post reported on Tuesday that a recent Yahoo/YouGov poll showed that while a minority of GOP voters say they believe in QAnon, 50% of Republicans (fifty percent! That’s half of them!) claim to believe that high-level Democrats are involved in child sex-trafficking rings, and more than 50% believe that Donald Trump is working behind the scenes to dismantle them. This idea goes back to 2016 and Pizzagate, so it’s possible that many of these Republicans don’t even know they’re spouting QAnon conspiracy theories. But what’s the difference? Clearly tens of millions of Republicans have, as Joe Biden said on the stump the other day, “gone ’round the bend.”’
My approach is more and more along the lines of becoming, in spades, what the conservative republican enemy accuses me of being.
Though I have to admit I don’t find Republican children in any way either attractive or appetizing, so I’m at a bit of a loss regarding how to proceed.
Maybe deport all American Republican parents from the country while confining their separated children to domestic re-education camps to fatten them up to become normal kids who like pizza and, eventually, high tax-rate paying citizens:
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/10/we-have-been-governed-by-4-years-by-the-worst-people-on-earth
via Juanita:
The National Catholic Reporter:
https://www.ncronline.org/node/193421/e
Dreher will cancel them.
via Juanita:
The National Catholic Reporter:
https://www.ncronline.org/node/193421/e
Dreher will cancel them.
While these conservative filth have been trying to murder all of us with mass disasters and gun violence called down on our heads by their vengeful, subhuman, murderous vermin God, we are forced to cool our heels decade after decade after decade waiting for them to croak of natural causes:
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/pat-robertson-prophesies-that-trump-will-win-reelection-then-the-end-times-will-begin/
When do we pull the plug on this shit?
While these conservative filth have been trying to murder all of us with mass disasters and gun violence called down on our heads by their vengeful, subhuman, murderous vermin God, we are forced to cool our heels decade after decade after decade waiting for them to croak of natural causes:
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/pat-robertson-prophesies-that-trump-will-win-reelection-then-the-end-times-will-begin/
When do we pull the plug on this shit?
Stepford Vermin:
https://www.mediamatters.org/congress/florida-gop-congressional-candidate-anna-paulina-luna-appeared-qanon-program-and-praised
Stepford Vermin:
https://www.mediamatters.org/congress/florida-gop-congressional-candidate-anna-paulina-luna-appeared-qanon-program-and-praised
yeah, but that one person fighting against police problems has nice things to say about Marx.
so, gotta stick with the GOP!
yeah, but that one person fighting against police problems has nice things to say about Marx.
so, gotta stick with the GOP!
Cold-blooded murderers:
https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/trump-wants-to-kill-babies-in-blue-states/
Cold-blooded murderers:
https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/trump-wants-to-kill-babies-in-blue-states/
Dreher will cancel them.
This has to have Dreher in a world of confusion.
Is he gonna cancel Il Papa?
Dreher will cancel them.
This has to have Dreher in a world of confusion.
Is he gonna cancel Il Papa?
He already has, after asking how many divisions the Pope has.
He already has, after asking how many divisions the Pope has.
https://www.eschatonblog.com/2020/10/the-next-two-frames-are.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lQ_MjU4QHw
We are in grave danger because the subhumans have made us into a dull country.
Redrum. REDrum!
REDRUM!!!!
https://www.eschatonblog.com/2020/10/the-next-two-frames-are.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lQ_MjU4QHw
We are in grave danger because the subhumans have made us into a dull country.
Redrum. REDrum!
REDRUM!!!!
but that one person fighting against police problems has nice things to say about Marx.
There is the detail that the Marx in question was Groucho. But hey, close enough….
but that one person fighting against police problems has nice things to say about Marx.
There is the detail that the Marx in question was Groucho. But hey, close enough….
Hey, Groucho was also a Jew. And since he was (to my knowledge) no AIPAC member, major GOP donor or part of a RW Israeli government that’s almost as bad as commie-Karl.
On the other hand his real estate deals were outright presidential: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB6VGKccul8
Hey, Groucho was also a Jew. And since he was (to my knowledge) no AIPAC member, major GOP donor or part of a RW Israeli government that’s almost as bad as commie-Karl.
On the other hand his real estate deals were outright presidential: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB6VGKccul8
From here:
this is the man that has the power to launch nukes.
laugh or cry, take your pick. or, you know, vote.
h/t LGM
From here:
this is the man that has the power to launch nukes.
laugh or cry, take your pick. or, you know, vote.
h/t LGM
We live in a country where almost half the adults joined a cult that worships a guy who is either too stupid or too arrogant or too uninterested or all of the above to understand the simplest thing about computer security. And probably too stupid to memorize a password that’s even slightly less guessable than that. And whose password has to be yet another form of adoration for his wonderfulness.
And whose staff is equally stupid / arrogant / uninterested / oblivious.
All the best people.
I suppose the hacker, oh, excuse me, “researcher,” was too ethical to start posting things on Twitter in Clickbait’s name? Now that would have been fun to see.
I wonder what his new password is.
We live in a country where almost half the adults joined a cult that worships a guy who is either too stupid or too arrogant or too uninterested or all of the above to understand the simplest thing about computer security. And probably too stupid to memorize a password that’s even slightly less guessable than that. And whose password has to be yet another form of adoration for his wonderfulness.
And whose staff is equally stupid / arrogant / uninterested / oblivious.
All the best people.
I suppose the hacker, oh, excuse me, “researcher,” was too ethical to start posting things on Twitter in Clickbait’s name? Now that would have been fun to see.
I wonder what his new password is.
IvankaIsHottt!
IvankaIsHottt!
LOL. I was just going to suggest MAGA2024!
LOL. I was just going to suggest MAGA2024!
FWIW – jumped on a SwingLeft phone bank last Sunday – there were 1300+ people in the phone bank session.
So, however it turns out, people are at least making the effort.
A lotta people want him gone. Like, strongly.
FWIW – jumped on a SwingLeft phone bank last Sunday – there were 1300+ people in the phone bank session.
So, however it turns out, people are at least making the effort.
A lotta people want him gone. Like, strongly.
Any fake twits on the Trump account would be immediately obvious.
Correct spelling, grammar, at least vaguely rational, all that stuff. Red flags, one and all.
Any fake twits on the Trump account would be immediately obvious.
Correct spelling, grammar, at least vaguely rational, all that stuff. Red flags, one and all.
A lotta people want him gone. Like, strongly.
I was standing in line at the post office a couple of days ago. One man was asking a clerk where he could register to vote. She told him that it wasn’t at the PO, perhaps he could try the city hall next door. He told her he had just come from city hall and they had sent him to the PO. As he was leaving I gave up my place in line so I could stop him and explain that it was a county function and how he could register online. He told me he had lived here in Colorado for ten years and never registered, but he really, really wanted to vote against Trump.
A lotta people want him gone. Like, strongly.
I was standing in line at the post office a couple of days ago. One man was asking a clerk where he could register to vote. She told him that it wasn’t at the PO, perhaps he could try the city hall next door. He told her he had just come from city hall and they had sent him to the PO. As he was leaving I gave up my place in line so I could stop him and explain that it was a county function and how he could register online. He told me he had lived here in Colorado for ten years and never registered, but he really, really wanted to vote against Trump.
As he was leaving I gave up my place in line so I could stop him and explain that it was a county function and how he could register online.
Thank you.
As he was leaving I gave up my place in line so I could stop him and explain that it was a county function and how he could register online.
Thank you.
Thank you.
No thanks necessary. As I tried to drill into my children, anyone can do the right thing when they’re up in front of a crowd. You get karma points for doing the right thing when no one is watching.
Thank you.
No thanks necessary. As I tried to drill into my children, anyone can do the right thing when they’re up in front of a crowd. You get karma points for doing the right thing when no one is watching.
In 2012 I had taken the train to downtown Decatur for early voting, not as many locations then, it was at a DeKalb County office, on the Friday before the election. Which was the last day for it. I was on vacation, so I took advantage of the location to get lunch after voting at a popular tacqueria, almost always a long line out the door.
While in line, I overheard the conversation between a nearby woman and a couple of her friends. She was explaining that since she had to catch an early flight on Tuesday she was planning on early voting on Monday. When her friends didn’t respond to this, I spoke up and let her know that would not be possible, she needed to vote today. Some other people in line confirmed what I was saying, and she quickly got on the phone with a family member to give them the proper information.
In 2012 I had taken the train to downtown Decatur for early voting, not as many locations then, it was at a DeKalb County office, on the Friday before the election. Which was the last day for it. I was on vacation, so I took advantage of the location to get lunch after voting at a popular tacqueria, almost always a long line out the door.
While in line, I overheard the conversation between a nearby woman and a couple of her friends. She was explaining that since she had to catch an early flight on Tuesday she was planning on early voting on Monday. When her friends didn’t respond to this, I spoke up and let her know that would not be possible, she needed to vote today. Some other people in line confirmed what I was saying, and she quickly got on the phone with a family member to give them the proper information.
Some other people in line confirmed what I was saying, and she quickly got on the phone with a family member to give them the proper information.
I did some phone banking yesterday evening. Not my favorite thing, because very few people answer, but my local party said that it was needed so did it.
I talked to someone who didn’t really recognize the Congressional candidate’s name but was a democrat. I felt that the info I gave her may have been worth the two hours.
It’s hard to justify the time spent, but that was a good moment, and I will do it again – in the hope that the two future two hours will yield more folks who will vote.
Some other people in line confirmed what I was saying, and she quickly got on the phone with a family member to give them the proper information.
I did some phone banking yesterday evening. Not my favorite thing, because very few people answer, but my local party said that it was needed so did it.
I talked to someone who didn’t really recognize the Congressional candidate’s name but was a democrat. I felt that the info I gave her may have been worth the two hours.
It’s hard to justify the time spent, but that was a good moment, and I will do it again – in the hope that the two future two hours will yield more folks who will vote.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2020/10/new-executive-order-may-reclassify-wide-swaths-of-career-positions-as-political-appointees/
Joe Biden should use this fucked-up piece of dog shit to his advantage: identify all conservatives and republicans in the federal government and purge them from the payroll.
At gunpoint, cancel culture fuckers.
Conservative filth and vermin are stealing my hard-earned money by taxing me and permitting these subhuman animals to inhale and exhale on Federal property.
Or, Biden could ruin the country by rescinding this Trump dog shit.
It’s a tossup.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2020/10/new-executive-order-may-reclassify-wide-swaths-of-career-positions-as-political-appointees/
Joe Biden should use this fucked-up piece of dog shit to his advantage: identify all conservatives and republicans in the federal government and purge them from the payroll.
At gunpoint, cancel culture fuckers.
Conservative filth and vermin are stealing my hard-earned money by taxing me and permitting these subhuman animals to inhale and exhale on Federal property.
Or, Biden could ruin the country by rescinding this Trump dog shit.
It’s a tossup.
There are lots of polls out there, but I tend to favor the betting odds. They seem, not necessarily less subjective, but more… disinterested.
FWIW, RealClearPolitics, which is basically a right-of-center political junkie site, aggregates the betting odds here.
If it’s of interest.
At this point I mostly just want this to be over. Let’s find out what we’re dealing with and carry on.
There are lots of polls out there, but I tend to favor the betting odds. They seem, not necessarily less subjective, but more… disinterested.
FWIW, RealClearPolitics, which is basically a right-of-center political junkie site, aggregates the betting odds here.
If it’s of interest.
At this point I mostly just want this to be over. Let’s find out what we’re dealing with and carry on.
The betting odds represent a pretty good opportunity from my POV.
I have not put real money on a US election since Obama’s first run.
Over the last week Trump’s odds have lengthened a bit (but tend to shorten overnight, which I assume is US true believer money).
The betting odds represent a pretty good opportunity from my POV.
I have not put real money on a US election since Obama’s first run.
Over the last week Trump’s odds have lengthened a bit (but tend to shorten overnight, which I assume is US true believer money).
There are lots of polls out there, but I tend to favor the betting odds. They seem, not necessarily less subjective, but more… disinterested.
At this point in 2016, didn’t the betting odds favor Clinton to a similar degree?
On getting it over, my main worry now is that on Nov 4 we’ll all be watching the mail ballot snafu roll into court in some key states.
Somewhat closer to the original COVID topic for this thread, our relocation process (and the increased exposure to the virus that entailed) is down to the last step of selling the old house. It seems to be showing briskly, and all of the experts say Front Range Colorado residential real estate is still in a mania phase, so hopefully that will get settled quickly.
There are lots of polls out there, but I tend to favor the betting odds. They seem, not necessarily less subjective, but more… disinterested.
At this point in 2016, didn’t the betting odds favor Clinton to a similar degree?
On getting it over, my main worry now is that on Nov 4 we’ll all be watching the mail ballot snafu roll into court in some key states.
Somewhat closer to the original COVID topic for this thread, our relocation process (and the increased exposure to the virus that entailed) is down to the last step of selling the old house. It seems to be showing briskly, and all of the experts say Front Range Colorado residential real estate is still in a mania phase, so hopefully that will get settled quickly.
Over the last week Trump’s odds have lengthened a bit (but tend to shorten overnight, which I assume is US true believer money).
Putin’s laundering of some pin money, since his main laundering channel may be shutting down.
Trump’s election in 2016 was Putin leaving a burning paper bag of dogshit on America’s doorstep, ringing the bell and running away.
As Dubya once asked “is America learning?”. We shall see.
Over the last week Trump’s odds have lengthened a bit (but tend to shorten overnight, which I assume is US true believer money).
Putin’s laundering of some pin money, since his main laundering channel may be shutting down.
Trump’s election in 2016 was Putin leaving a burning paper bag of dogshit on America’s doorstep, ringing the bell and running away.
As Dubya once asked “is America learning?”. We shall see.
At this point in 2016, didn’t the betting odds favor Clinton to a similar degree?
I have no idea.
This isn’t 2016. Trump isn’t the scrappy underdog outsider, he’s not running against the inexplicably most hated political personality of her generation. There is no Biden equivalent to Benghazi or the Great Email Fiasco, and Trump’s attempts to manufacture one are sad, pathetic, and risible, and are generally seen to be so.
At this point, other than his loyal supporters, everyone is freaking sick of Donald J Trump.
He could still win, it will just be a much, much bigger lift than it was in 2016. And that was a squeaker.
On getting it over, my main worry now is that on Nov 4 we’ll all be watching the mail ballot snafu roll into court in some key states.
I have no doubt it will be a non-stop shit-show.
At some point it will be over, we’ll know where we stand, and we’ll try to carry on from there.
I just want these freaking soul-sucking zombie people to go the hell away. Go back to reality TV, fine with me. I don’t have to watch that. Sell steaks and crappy wine to all the people who think buying that stuff is gonna make their lives a tiny bit more glamorous. More fools them, but that’s not my problem.
Just go the hell away. All of them. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.
Maybe, if we’re lucky, we can find our way back from the callous brutal inhuman asinine bullshit we’ve let ourselves descend to. I give it even odds at best, but with another four years of what we have now I’d put the odds at zero.
We aren’t the country we think we are. Maybe we can become the country we think we are, but that is not going to happen under Trump or anyone like him.
Let’s get this over with, see what’s left, and see if we can go on from there.
At this point in 2016, didn’t the betting odds favor Clinton to a similar degree?
I have no idea.
This isn’t 2016. Trump isn’t the scrappy underdog outsider, he’s not running against the inexplicably most hated political personality of her generation. There is no Biden equivalent to Benghazi or the Great Email Fiasco, and Trump’s attempts to manufacture one are sad, pathetic, and risible, and are generally seen to be so.
At this point, other than his loyal supporters, everyone is freaking sick of Donald J Trump.
He could still win, it will just be a much, much bigger lift than it was in 2016. And that was a squeaker.
On getting it over, my main worry now is that on Nov 4 we’ll all be watching the mail ballot snafu roll into court in some key states.
I have no doubt it will be a non-stop shit-show.
At some point it will be over, we’ll know where we stand, and we’ll try to carry on from there.
I just want these freaking soul-sucking zombie people to go the hell away. Go back to reality TV, fine with me. I don’t have to watch that. Sell steaks and crappy wine to all the people who think buying that stuff is gonna make their lives a tiny bit more glamorous. More fools them, but that’s not my problem.
Just go the hell away. All of them. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.
Maybe, if we’re lucky, we can find our way back from the callous brutal inhuman asinine bullshit we’ve let ourselves descend to. I give it even odds at best, but with another four years of what we have now I’d put the odds at zero.
We aren’t the country we think we are. Maybe we can become the country we think we are, but that is not going to happen under Trump or anyone like him.
Let’s get this over with, see what’s left, and see if we can go on from there.
the inexplicably most hated political personality of her generation
who won the “Most Admired Woman” poll in the US, 17 years in a row until Michelle Obama took the title.
[a nit i can never not pick]
the inexplicably most hated political personality of her generation
who won the “Most Admired Woman” poll in the US, 17 years in a row until Michelle Obama took the title.
[a nit i can never not pick]
Just go the hell away. All of them. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.
FYLTGE
Just go the hell away. All of them. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.
FYLTGE
Who are these electors who think the most admirable thing a woman can do is marry a man who becomes president?
Who are these electors who think the most admirable thing a woman can do is marry a man who becomes president?
Half a million in cash, the little republican fuck had on him:
https://www.eschatonblog.com/2020/10/500k-cash.html
More at the link:
https://abcnews.go.com/News/teenage-suspect-allegedly-plotted-kill-joe-biden-federal/story?id=73774048
Must have been paid $250,000 each by both sides, hanh?
Half a million in cash, the little republican fuck had on him:
https://www.eschatonblog.com/2020/10/500k-cash.html
More at the link:
https://abcnews.go.com/News/teenage-suspect-allegedly-plotted-kill-joe-biden-federal/story?id=73774048
Must have been paid $250,000 each by both sides, hanh?
He inherited the money from his uncle/father.
He inherited the money from his uncle/father.
“Just go the hell away. All of them. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.”
i want that yard sign.
“Just go the hell away. All of them. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.”
i want that yard sign.
1. Hillary
the inexplicably most hated political personality of her generation
who won the “Most Admired Woman” poll in the US, 17 years in a row until Michelle Obama took the title.
[a nit i can never not pick]
Someone who inspires strong feelings can inspire them in opposite directions, especially when helped along by decades of deliberate prodding by provocateurs.
2. Cash
How long does it take to accumulate half a million in cash? (Rhetorical question, and I know I have little to no imagination for the methods of crooks.)
3. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.
If Mrs. Clickbait III fits under “entourage,” fine. If not, she needs a category too.
1. Hillary
the inexplicably most hated political personality of her generation
who won the “Most Admired Woman” poll in the US, 17 years in a row until Michelle Obama took the title.
[a nit i can never not pick]
Someone who inspires strong feelings can inspire them in opposite directions, especially when helped along by decades of deliberate prodding by provocateurs.
2. Cash
How long does it take to accumulate half a million in cash? (Rhetorical question, and I know I have little to no imagination for the methods of crooks.)
3. Trump, his spawn, his entourage, his enablers. Get the hell out.
If Mrs. Clickbait III fits under “entourage,” fine. If not, she needs a category too.
Half a million in cash, the little republican fuck had on him
his booking picture looks like it was taken at a Great Clips.
Half a million in cash, the little republican fuck had on him
his booking picture looks like it was taken at a Great Clips.
his booking picture looks like it was taken at a Great Clips.
You mean like the before in a pair of before and after pics? 😉
his booking picture looks like it was taken at a Great Clips.
You mean like the before in a pair of before and after pics? 😉
He does appear to be wearing one of those apron thingies they put on you when you get a haircut. Weird.
He does appear to be wearing one of those apron thingies they put on you when you get a haircut. Weird.
I think, in some jurisdictions, they started covering people for mug shots because the thought was that the differences in clothing could influence witnesses and others viewing the mug shots.
I think, in some jurisdictions, they started covering people for mug shots because the thought was that the differences in clothing could influence witnesses and others viewing the mug shots.
How long does it take to accumulate half a million in cash?
WaPo story says the $509K is believe to be “his inheritance”.
so i guess he went to the bank and said “empty this account, in cash” ?
that’s 280,000 pounds, if he got it in pennies.
How long does it take to accumulate half a million in cash?
WaPo story says the $509K is believe to be “his inheritance”.
so i guess he went to the bank and said “empty this account, in cash” ?
that’s 280,000 pounds, if he got it in pennies.
Interesting article about how you might do that, how long it would really take (maybe a few days, depending on how much cash the bank keeps on hand), and what red flags it raises with the government. Apparently not enough red flags were raised. Or not the right kind.
Interesting article about how you might do that, how long it would really take (maybe a few days, depending on how much cash the bank keeps on hand), and what red flags it raises with the government. Apparently not enough red flags were raised. Or not the right kind.
any deposit or withdrawal over $10k gets reported to the feds.
so, it’s odd.
any deposit or withdrawal over $10k gets reported to the feds.
so, it’s odd.
any deposit or withdrawal over $10k gets reported to the feds
But my impression is that they don’t necessarily care, if there’s no evidence of criminal activity. I haven’t read the news about him in any detail, so I have no idea, but maybe whoever bequeathed it to him had already been hoarding cash for a long time. People are strange….
any deposit or withdrawal over $10k gets reported to the feds
But my impression is that they don’t necessarily care, if there’s no evidence of criminal activity. I haven’t read the news about him in any detail, so I have no idea, but maybe whoever bequeathed it to him had already been hoarding cash for a long time. People are strange….
Still depends on how often they happen. If the bank makes less than one report a week, it’s odd. But if they make dozens every day? It’s still reported, but it’s no longer that odd for the bank folks.
Likewise for the folks getting the reports. And they doubtless see more than any one bank. Be intetesting to know why the Feds didn’t find this particular case noteworthy.
Still depends on how often they happen. If the bank makes less than one report a week, it’s odd. But if they make dozens every day? It’s still reported, but it’s no longer that odd for the bank folks.
Likewise for the folks getting the reports. And they doubtless see more than any one bank. Be intetesting to know why the Feds didn’t find this particular case noteworthy.
Articles say the cash is “believed to be his inheritance.” I find it interesting that none of the reporting finds it interesting that there was all that cash. Someone last night said “inheritance from father or uncle….”
Father or uncle could have been withdrawing $1000 from an ATM every week, which I suspect is completely unremarkable as far as banks and the feds are concerned. At that rate it would take about ten years to accumulate half a mil — and twenties weight a lot less than pennies. 😉
Articles say the cash is “believed to be his inheritance.” I find it interesting that none of the reporting finds it interesting that there was all that cash. Someone last night said “inheritance from father or uncle….”
Father or uncle could have been withdrawing $1000 from an ATM every week, which I suspect is completely unremarkable as far as banks and the feds are concerned. At that rate it would take about ten years to accumulate half a mil — and twenties weight a lot less than pennies. 😉
I mean, especially all that cash in the possession of a 19-year-old…….
I mean, especially all that cash in the possession of a 19-year-old…….
his mother apparently told him to skip out on bail. i suspect her judgement might not be great.
so, maybe that money isn’t exactly clean.
his mother apparently told him to skip out on bail. i suspect her judgement might not be great.
so, maybe that money isn’t exactly clean.
But my impression is that they don’t necessarily care, if there’s no evidence of criminal activity.
Yes, that’s true. But $500K is $10K times 50, and this guy had previously been brought on up child pornography charges.
It is an odd set of circumstances.
But my impression is that they don’t necessarily care, if there’s no evidence of criminal activity.
Yes, that’s true. But $500K is $10K times 50, and this guy had previously been brought on up child pornography charges.
It is an odd set of circumstances.
Someone last night said “inheritance from father or uncle….”
That’s strange. I didn’t know that, and my comment about “uncle/father” was meant as a joke, meaning that his father was also his uncle. I did know about the inheritance part, but heard nothing of the source.
Someone last night said “inheritance from father or uncle….”
That’s strange. I didn’t know that, and my comment about “uncle/father” was meant as a joke, meaning that his father was also his uncle. I did know about the inheritance part, but heard nothing of the source.
hsh…maybe you were the source. Sometimes I skim around too fast for my own good.
hsh…maybe you were the source. Sometimes I skim around too fast for my own good.
The circle is complete.
The circle is complete.
hsh…maybe you were the source.
I suspect our friend hairshirt may be the source of many hijinks and shenanigans….
hsh…maybe you were the source.
I suspect our friend hairshirt may be the source of many hijinks and shenanigans….
Team Biden, Trollin Hard
Team Biden, Trollin Hard
I can understand Team Biden staying focused on their strongest issue. But others are keeping some of Trump’s other comments* high profile
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/545-children-are-still-separated-from-their-families-what-if-one-of-them-were-yours/2020/10/23/63d3be04-154f-11eb-ba42-ec6a580836ed_story.html
* Can’t really call it a “misstep.” Unless you want to embrace that his true and sincere beliefs (yes, he does have a couple) are disasters.
I can understand Team Biden staying focused on their strongest issue. But others are keeping some of Trump’s other comments* high profile
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/545-children-are-still-separated-from-their-families-what-if-one-of-them-were-yours/2020/10/23/63d3be04-154f-11eb-ba42-ec6a580836ed_story.html
* Can’t really call it a “misstep.” Unless you want to embrace that his true and sincere beliefs (yes, he does have a couple) are disasters.
Super Marxist if true…
https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewMannix/status/1319666269835173888
Charges coming against right wing provocateur in Minneapolis protest fire and shooting
Super Marxist if true…
https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewMannix/status/1319666269835173888
Charges coming against right wing provocateur in Minneapolis protest fire and shooting
Super Marxist if true…
Since National Socialist has socialist right there, then of course he is a marxist. And since marxists are opponents of nazis, then he’s also an antifascist.
You see how deep the conspiracy goes, Antifa are everywhere.
Hail Hydra.
Super Marxist if true…
Since National Socialist has socialist right there, then of course he is a marxist. And since marxists are opponents of nazis, then he’s also an antifascist.
You see how deep the conspiracy goes, Antifa are everywhere.
Hail Hydra.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/10/21/hey-trump-can-still-win-really/
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/10/21/hey-trump-can-still-win-really/
FWIW, Patrick Ruffini at Echelon says:
Biden +28 among the 48% who say they’ve voted already, Trump +11 with the rest.
Now I really look at this, I wonder exactly who “the rest” are. I have always been honest here about my innumeracy, so what the hell does this mean? Is it, of the 48% who have voted, 28% have voted for Biden, 11% for Trump, and 9% for others? This last seems unlikely at the moment, so I have obviously misunderstood. Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%? Eeep.
FWIW, Patrick Ruffini at Echelon says:
Biden +28 among the 48% who say they’ve voted already, Trump +11 with the rest.
Now I really look at this, I wonder exactly who “the rest” are. I have always been honest here about my innumeracy, so what the hell does this mean? Is it, of the 48% who have voted, 28% have voted for Biden, 11% for Trump, and 9% for others? This last seems unlikely at the moment, so I have obviously misunderstood. Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%? Eeep.
Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%? Eeep.
yep.
that’s how i read it.
chicken-counting season is the worst season of all.
Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%? Eeep.
yep.
that’s how i read it.
chicken-counting season is the worst season of all.
OMG, I hoped my innumeracy was leading me astray. Thanks cleek (I guess…)
OMG, I hoped my innumeracy was leading me astray. Thanks cleek (I guess…)
Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%?
For various reasons, including Trump’s own disparagement of voting by mail, early voters this year tend to vote (D).
We should expect proportionately higher support for Trump among in-person election day voters.
It ain’t over until it’s over.
Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%?
For various reasons, including Trump’s own disparagement of voting by mail, early voters this year tend to vote (D).
We should expect proportionately higher support for Trump among in-person election day voters.
It ain’t over until it’s over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/20/biden-trump-battle-white-voters-district-level-polls-are-revealing/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/20/biden-trump-battle-white-voters-district-level-polls-are-revealing/
Concerning that Treisman kid with his guns and his porn and his half a mil in cash, hsh and I aren’t the only ones weaving a circle of . . . something. From upthread, russell quoted me and then commented:
This has been niggling at me, because I thought I had read that the guy, Treisman, had no criminal history. And I did!
I was thinking, as I skimmed headlines and bits of articles, that this guy had just been arrested, like, last week. So if the child pornography charges are from September, then they would indeed be “previously.” Maybe russell thought the same thing.
But actually, Treisman was arrested in May (my bold below):
It doesn’t explain why the arrest was only reported now; the trigger for the current flurry of news articles was this judge’s order, but that doesn’t explain why the arrest itself didn’t make the news early last summer.
The $ part is still weird too.
Concerning that Treisman kid with his guns and his porn and his half a mil in cash, hsh and I aren’t the only ones weaving a circle of . . . something. From upthread, russell quoted me and then commented:
This has been niggling at me, because I thought I had read that the guy, Treisman, had no criminal history. And I did!
I was thinking, as I skimmed headlines and bits of articles, that this guy had just been arrested, like, last week. So if the child pornography charges are from September, then they would indeed be “previously.” Maybe russell thought the same thing.
But actually, Treisman was arrested in May (my bold below):
It doesn’t explain why the arrest was only reported now; the trigger for the current flurry of news articles was this judge’s order, but that doesn’t explain why the arrest itself didn’t make the news early last summer.
The $ part is still weird too.
I’m not a bit surprised to hear that about the hispanic vote in Florida from JDT’s WaPo link, because last night on C4 News they continued their exposee (don’t know how to do acute accent) on the Cambridge Analytica hack of data they have from 2016 with detailed details (!) of over 200 million Americans, falling into their three categories of “Deterrence”, “Persuade” and “Core Trump” (can’t remember the name of the last group, but it was something like that). Considerable numbers of hispanic voters fell into the first two categories, in heavily hispanic neighbourhoods, so C4 News’s “Diplomatic Editor” (title, not description) went round interviewing some of them, as she had with the black voters in the “Deterrence” category when I posted about it before. Again, they didn’t know there was a database containing such info about them, but some talked to her, and disclosed that they had been getting Trump ads saying that e.g. Biden was a paedophile, sent to them on social media by “friends and family”. When she said “But did you believe it, that he was a paedophile?” one woman said, “Well, not necessarily.”
I’m sure you can find the whole bit (or an even longer version than the one that aired), on C4’s website. I don’t have the heart to snow you guys under with more C4/Cambridge Analytica stuff like I did before. I reckon you have other fish to fry.
I’m not a bit surprised to hear that about the hispanic vote in Florida from JDT’s WaPo link, because last night on C4 News they continued their exposee (don’t know how to do acute accent) on the Cambridge Analytica hack of data they have from 2016 with detailed details (!) of over 200 million Americans, falling into their three categories of “Deterrence”, “Persuade” and “Core Trump” (can’t remember the name of the last group, but it was something like that). Considerable numbers of hispanic voters fell into the first two categories, in heavily hispanic neighbourhoods, so C4 News’s “Diplomatic Editor” (title, not description) went round interviewing some of them, as she had with the black voters in the “Deterrence” category when I posted about it before. Again, they didn’t know there was a database containing such info about them, but some talked to her, and disclosed that they had been getting Trump ads saying that e.g. Biden was a paedophile, sent to them on social media by “friends and family”. When she said “But did you believe it, that he was a paedophile?” one woman said, “Well, not necessarily.”
I’m sure you can find the whole bit (or an even longer version than the one that aired), on C4’s website. I don’t have the heart to snow you guys under with more C4/Cambridge Analytica stuff like I did before. I reckon you have other fish to fry.
Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%? Eeep.
Of course, you can also read it as “Amongst those who might ultimately fail to vote, Trump leads by 11%.” Definitely a downside there, to lead only among potential non-voters.
Can it possibly mean of those that have NOT voted, Trump leads by 11%? Eeep.
Of course, you can also read it as “Amongst those who might ultimately fail to vote, Trump leads by 11%.” Definitely a downside there, to lead only among potential non-voters.
OK, I thought I should after all in case you wanted to see it. The name of the whole exposee is “Deterring Democracy”, and as far as I can see they haven’t yet put up the piece from last night about the hispanic vote. But sometimes it takes 24 hours after something airs, for some reason, so anybody interested can keep checking the link. In the meantime, it has all the previous stuff about the 3.5 million black voters who were deterred, by the “Superpredator” ads etc.
https://www.channel4.com/news/deterring-democracy
OK, I thought I should after all in case you wanted to see it. The name of the whole exposee is “Deterring Democracy”, and as far as I can see they haven’t yet put up the piece from last night about the hispanic vote. But sometimes it takes 24 hours after something airs, for some reason, so anybody interested can keep checking the link. In the meantime, it has all the previous stuff about the 3.5 million black voters who were deterred, by the “Superpredator” ads etc.
https://www.channel4.com/news/deterring-democracy
OK, this is some of it, for anybody interested.
https://www.channel4.com/news/how-the-trump-campaign-is-targeting-hispanic-voters
OK, this is some of it, for anybody interested.
https://www.channel4.com/news/how-the-trump-campaign-is-targeting-hispanic-voters
Watching again, I see I slightly misremembered. It was a Trump-supporting Cuban radio personality, DJ and enthusiastic social media influencer who said (when asked about the “Biden is a paedophile” stuff) that he didn’t “necessarily” believe that Biden was a paedophile, but that there was certainly something odd and untoward about Biden’s interactions with children and women….
Watching again, I see I slightly misremembered. It was a Trump-supporting Cuban radio personality, DJ and enthusiastic social media influencer who said (when asked about the “Biden is a paedophile” stuff) that he didn’t “necessarily” believe that Biden was a paedophile, but that there was certainly something odd and untoward about Biden’s interactions with children and women….
Not that it will matter to people propagandized otherwise, but I’ve noticed in the Biden campaign clips I’ve watched that he puts his hands on everyone. Not just women and children, but men, boys…humans. It’s boundary-violating by contemporary standards (in my reading of contemporary standards), but it seems to be core to how he relates to people.
Not that it will matter to people propagandized otherwise, but I’ve noticed in the Biden campaign clips I’ve watched that he puts his hands on everyone. Not just women and children, but men, boys…humans. It’s boundary-violating by contemporary standards (in my reading of contemporary standards), but it seems to be core to how he relates to people.
It’s boundary-violating by contemporary standards (in my reading of contemporary standards)
But not in my reading of the mid-20th century, Lower Middle Class, culture in which he and I were both raised. It violates my personal boundaries, and always has. But I have to say it was entirely SOP — that was how the men behaved, and were expected to behaved. Pretty clearly for him, the well-learned reflexes are, at best, contained.
It’s boundary-violating by contemporary standards (in my reading of contemporary standards)
But not in my reading of the mid-20th century, Lower Middle Class, culture in which he and I were both raised. It violates my personal boundaries, and always has. But I have to say it was entirely SOP — that was how the men behaved, and were expected to behaved. Pretty clearly for him, the well-learned reflexes are, at best, contained.
“>half of Republicans think top Democrats are running a secret child prostitution ring. and, somehow, even more of them believe Trump is working to dismantle a child prostitution ring run by top Democrats.
but yes Clinton was too smart.
“>half of Republicans think top Democrats are running a secret child prostitution ring. and, somehow, even more of them believe Trump is working to dismantle a child prostitution ring run by top Democrats.
but yes Clinton was too smart.
dagnabbit
https://twitter.com/keith___m/status/1320058819276345345/photo/1
dagnabbit
https://twitter.com/keith___m/status/1320058819276345345/photo/1
On the subject of Joe Biden’s physical inappropriateness, I have never seen him be what I would consider inappropriate with a kid, possibly because to me he has a totally benign vibe (not a comment on his politics or his views), but I can see how in this day and age his touchy-feeliness with women is probably a bit unwise. But again, it doesn’t feel creepy to me. I’m interested in wj’s 01.32, because I can totally see what he means about women and kids, but I would be surprised to learn that in Lower Middle Class America in the mid-20th century that kind of tactileness (is this a word?) between adult men was normal. I think it has become so, pre-Covid, but more in the 21st century. But I could be wrong.
On the subject of Joe Biden’s physical inappropriateness, I have never seen him be what I would consider inappropriate with a kid, possibly because to me he has a totally benign vibe (not a comment on his politics or his views), but I can see how in this day and age his touchy-feeliness with women is probably a bit unwise. But again, it doesn’t feel creepy to me. I’m interested in wj’s 01.32, because I can totally see what he means about women and kids, but I would be surprised to learn that in Lower Middle Class America in the mid-20th century that kind of tactileness (is this a word?) between adult men was normal. I think it has become so, pre-Covid, but more in the 21st century. But I could be wrong.
wj and GftNC: My take on it is that the US is so diverse, it’s impossible to generalize, especially about earlier eras when (she theorizes from no data) there was less of an effect of mass culture. The ethnic diversity alone would suggest a variety of boundary assumptions.
But my experience was quite different from wj’s, if I’m reading him correctly. I don’t remember a lot of touching among the men when I was a kid. On my dad’s side that would be mostly first generation (i.e. born here to immigrant parents) Italians. But then, my dad was a particularly reserved guy, quite a bit more so even than his brothers. So even there it’s hard to generalize.
On my mom’s side I have a lot less data, since my grandfather was dead and I had only one uncle. But those people were rural and Baptist. There was very little touching or warmth in public, period.
It might be relevant that Biden is Irish. Although I became kind of an Ireland fangirl at an early age, I didn’t really have a lot of experience with Irish-American adults when I aws a kid.
wj and GftNC: My take on it is that the US is so diverse, it’s impossible to generalize, especially about earlier eras when (she theorizes from no data) there was less of an effect of mass culture. The ethnic diversity alone would suggest a variety of boundary assumptions.
But my experience was quite different from wj’s, if I’m reading him correctly. I don’t remember a lot of touching among the men when I was a kid. On my dad’s side that would be mostly first generation (i.e. born here to immigrant parents) Italians. But then, my dad was a particularly reserved guy, quite a bit more so even than his brothers. So even there it’s hard to generalize.
On my mom’s side I have a lot less data, since my grandfather was dead and I had only one uncle. But those people were rural and Baptist. There was very little touching or warmth in public, period.
It might be relevant that Biden is Irish. Although I became kind of an Ireland fangirl at an early age, I didn’t really have a lot of experience with Irish-American adults when I aws a kid.
Janie, there were super-rigid (albeit completely unspoken) restrictions on the kinds on touching that was acceptable. Get outside those and you were, indeed, toast. But it was pretty rampant as long as you didn’t cross a line. Some ethnic variation — more touching as I recall with Irish and Italian (Catholic?) vs English or Scandinavian.
I can’t supply lots of details, not only due to time, but because I personally recoiled on watching. But the memory of the recoil is quite clear.
It also occurs to me in retrospect that a lot of the man-on-man touching disappeared when homosexuality began to be mentionable. Before then, it wasn’t a problem because it just wasn’t thinkable (at least in that subculture). Once it was thinkable, it was a critical problem . . . until, a few decades later, it ceased to be social death.
Janie, there were super-rigid (albeit completely unspoken) restrictions on the kinds on touching that was acceptable. Get outside those and you were, indeed, toast. But it was pretty rampant as long as you didn’t cross a line. Some ethnic variation — more touching as I recall with Irish and Italian (Catholic?) vs English or Scandinavian.
I can’t supply lots of details, not only due to time, but because I personally recoiled on watching. But the memory of the recoil is quite clear.
It also occurs to me in retrospect that a lot of the man-on-man touching disappeared when homosexuality began to be mentionable. Before then, it wasn’t a problem because it just wasn’t thinkable (at least in that subculture). Once it was thinkable, it was a critical problem . . . until, a few decades later, it ceased to be social death.
On the subject of Joe Biden’s physical inappropriateness, I have never seen him be what I would consider inappropriate with a kid, possibly because to me he has a totally benign vibe (not a comment on his politics or his views), but I can see how in this day and age his touchy-feeliness with women is probably a bit unwise. But again, it doesn’t feel creepy to me.
I feel the same way. (Me too?)
Anyway, I think this topic is extremely interesting, because what has been “appropriate”, “tolerated”, “rude”, “assault” has changed dramatically during my lifetime. It’s difficult to talk about because people are triggered by it in a way that I’m not.
During my adulthood, I had to learn to socially hug people outside my family. Although growing up, my immediate family (siblings) weren’t averse to touching, and my mother kissed us, sometimes on the lips, with no weird vibes, we didn’t hug non-family. But all of the sudden, in my thirties or forties, everyone hugged everyone constantly (friends) to the point that it seemed offensive not to hug. I had to navigate: do I hug my lunch companion as a hello or goodbye? Once I felt comfortable with all of this, and actually enjoyed it, hugging came off the table again (right before the pandemic, which saved us all from these decisions).
While all of this hugging culture was happening, I extended my hand to meet a work colleague (male, and I am female) from India. He seemed unenthusiastic but extended his hand back to me, but after our handshake, I felt that I had violated boundaries. I went home, read up, and maybe I did make him uncomfortable.
Anyway, I’m not a huge guardian of my body – I certainly wouldn’t want someone fondling my “private parts” uninvited, but I define that fairly narrowly. I didn’t realize how different other people felt about it all.
On the subject of Joe Biden’s physical inappropriateness, I have never seen him be what I would consider inappropriate with a kid, possibly because to me he has a totally benign vibe (not a comment on his politics or his views), but I can see how in this day and age his touchy-feeliness with women is probably a bit unwise. But again, it doesn’t feel creepy to me.
I feel the same way. (Me too?)
Anyway, I think this topic is extremely interesting, because what has been “appropriate”, “tolerated”, “rude”, “assault” has changed dramatically during my lifetime. It’s difficult to talk about because people are triggered by it in a way that I’m not.
During my adulthood, I had to learn to socially hug people outside my family. Although growing up, my immediate family (siblings) weren’t averse to touching, and my mother kissed us, sometimes on the lips, with no weird vibes, we didn’t hug non-family. But all of the sudden, in my thirties or forties, everyone hugged everyone constantly (friends) to the point that it seemed offensive not to hug. I had to navigate: do I hug my lunch companion as a hello or goodbye? Once I felt comfortable with all of this, and actually enjoyed it, hugging came off the table again (right before the pandemic, which saved us all from these decisions).
While all of this hugging culture was happening, I extended my hand to meet a work colleague (male, and I am female) from India. He seemed unenthusiastic but extended his hand back to me, but after our handshake, I felt that I had violated boundaries. I went home, read up, and maybe I did make him uncomfortable.
Anyway, I’m not a huge guardian of my body – I certainly wouldn’t want someone fondling my “private parts” uninvited, but I define that fairly narrowly. I didn’t realize how different other people felt about it all.
I don’t remember a lot of touching among the men when I was a kid.
That’s why you have sports…
I don’t remember a lot of touching among the men when I was a kid.
That’s why you have sports…
Not just for the sports themselves, but for the celebrations of victory. Or even considerations in defeat. Which lets the unathletic among us play, too.
Not just for the sports themselves, but for the celebrations of victory. Or even considerations in defeat. Which lets the unathletic among us play, too.
“Fist-bumps”, for those for whom “handshakes” are just too intimate.
…doing ‘VIRTUAL elbow-bumps’ now, of course.
“Fist-bumps”, for those for whom “handshakes” are just too intimate.
…doing ‘VIRTUAL elbow-bumps’ now, of course.
i’ve always been a big fan of the short eyes-averted nod.
i’ve always been a big fan of the short eyes-averted nod.
Personally, I’m a big fan of hugging and kissing, and miss it during the Covid thing, but then, I come from a hugely affectionate and demonstrative family, so Biden’s way looks OK to me. I also love the way men have relaxed about hugging and pounding each other’s backs, as opposed to the handshakes of yore. But I admit it does make it awkward when you encounter someone who, for whatever reason (usually a vibe thing), you don’t feel like hugging.
Personally, I’m a big fan of hugging and kissing, and miss it during the Covid thing, but then, I come from a hugely affectionate and demonstrative family, so Biden’s way looks OK to me. I also love the way men have relaxed about hugging and pounding each other’s backs, as opposed to the handshakes of yore. But I admit it does make it awkward when you encounter someone who, for whatever reason (usually a vibe thing), you don’t feel like hugging.
Monica Hesse wrote a lovely tribute to Biden here.
Monica Hesse wrote a lovely tribute to Biden here.
Yes, that’s a lovely piece. And a really good point to draw the contrast between Biden’s parenting and Trump’s.
Yes, that’s a lovely piece. And a really good point to draw the contrast between Biden’s parenting and Trump’s.