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by publius I’m putting the over/under on the percentage of Corner posts relating to Hillary over the next year at 41%.  I’ll take the over.

Romeo and Newly-Left

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There’s been an interesting back and forth on whether the so-called "netroots" is an honest-to-God political movement.  The whole thing was triggered by Matt Stoller’s TPM Cafe post, which led to a number of heated responses (rounded up here).  Ezra Klein sums them up:

The semi-complicated backstory is that Matt Stoller wrote a post on TPM
Cafe taking the 60s left to task, and a bunch of somewhat older, less
netrootsy bloggers struck back at it.

To be grossly general, the Stoller/Kos camp thinks that the netsroots (the New New Left) is successfully building new political institutions, while the 60s Left (the Old New Left) wasn’t very successful on that front.  The Sawicky/Newman camp disagrees, arguing the the 60s-80s Left built an unprecedented amount of political institutions, while the netsroots has accomplished very little in this respect.

What’s striking about this debate though is how much these two sides actually agree about.  Both sides — correctly I think — adopt a Marxist-type assumption that the key to political change is structural change.  In other words, to bring about real political change, you have to do things like build institutions and, more generally, take the steps necessary to assume actual political power

Along these lines, I’ve always thought the real achievement of the New Deal was the institutional framework it left in place to serve its constituency’s interests in the future (an achievement that carries on today).  In this sense, the regulatory state is the political manifestation of the progressive movement and a concrete monument to its success. 

The question then is whether we’re seeing something similar in the netsroots, or whether it’s just sound and fury, signifying nothing.   As Josh Marshall said, "Institutions Talk, Enthusiasm Walks."  Before I get to that question though, let me take a detour through Romeo & Juliet.  Bear with me here.

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Right and Wrong

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Kevin Drum weighs in on the recent back and forth about whether anti-war liberals were right for the wrong reasons:

If anti-war liberals were right about the war from the start, how come they don’t get more respect? Here’s the nickel version of the answer from liberal hawks: It’s because they don’t deserve it. Sure, the war has gone badly, but not for the reasons the doves warned of.

His post is already generating some testy responses and I’m sure this debate will — like a bad strain of herpes — be with us for a long time to come.  I’m not terribly interested in continuing this debate, but I do think that people shouldn’t lose the forest for the trees in assessing the “reasons” people opposed the war.

The logic of the pro-war liberals’ argument is:  (1) the anti-war people opposed the war for Reason X; (2) Reason X turned out to be wrong or unjustified; (3) therefore, their judgment isn’t any better than ours; and (4) they should shut their hippy traps.  But opposition to the war can’t be completely reduced to individual fact-specific arguments — you also have to factor in the larger environment in which the debate played out.  Speaking for myself, I opposed the war not so much because I was dead certain I had all the facts right, but because of my increasingly-intense skepticism of the broader context in which the pro-war argument was being made.

In other words, something just smelled funny about the whole thing — and I think this “smell” should have had right-thinking people jumping off the bus by March 2003.  More after the jump (my very first by the way).

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First, Accuse All the Lawyers of Treason

by publius [Before I weigh in on Stimson’s attacks on law firms, I should disclose that my firm (though not me personally) represents some Guantanamo detainees.  So take that for what it’s worth.] Other than its obnoxiousness, the thing that really stands out about Stimson’s critique is the basic conceptual error that we’ve seen again … Read more

I Welcome My New Hilzoyian Overlords

by publius So after a night of heavy drinking, Hilzoy apparently got on the computer and started inviting random people to join Obsidian Wings (Justin Timberlake was on the email I received for some reason).  So before she could revoke the offer, I accepted.  And you people are now, for better or worse, stuck with … Read more