Bottom of the Barrel, Scraping the

by Ugh

Just when you thought it was safe to go take a peek at the GOP Primary Presidential candidates after Trump's, uh, comments about immigrants, we have former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) saying this about his Commander-in-Chief/Leader of the Free WorldTM:

He would take the Israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven.

Golly.  

Also, too, Trump's spokespersonthingie ("special counsel at The Trump Organization") saying that "And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse."  By definition.

So, I ask you, dear reader, have we finally scraped the bottom of the GOP Presidential candidate barrel when it comes to rather unfortunate statements from them or their lackeys?  I find it hard to believe that anyone would surpass Huckabee as the leader in the clubhouse, but then again….

To avoid accusations of partisanship, feel free to highlight comparable statements from the current Democratic Presidential primary contenders (and lackeys) in comments.  Statements must have been made after declaring their candidacy for the 2016 D POTUS nomination.

213 thoughts on “Bottom of the Barrel, Scraping the”

  1. i was sure that Christie would be doing well because there are a lot of people out there who really love a loudmouth bullying alpha male asshole. what i didn’t count on was Trump jumping into that spot, ass-first.
    poor Christie, out-buffooned by the best.

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  2. i was sure that Christie would be doing well because there are a lot of people out there who really love a loudmouth bullying alpha male asshole. what i didn’t count on was Trump jumping into that spot, ass-first.
    poor Christie, out-buffooned by the best.

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  3. i was sure that Christie would be doing well because there are a lot of people out there who really love a loudmouth bullying alpha male asshole. what i didn’t count on was Trump jumping into that spot, ass-first.
    poor Christie, out-buffooned by the best.

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  4. Please, Ugh. There’s still ~16mo to go, and around half that until primaries are in full swing. Have faith. We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

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  5. Please, Ugh. There’s still ~16mo to go, and around half that until primaries are in full swing. Have faith. We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

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  6. Please, Ugh. There’s still ~16mo to go, and around half that until primaries are in full swing. Have faith. We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

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  7. “So, I ask you, dear reader, have we finally scraped the bottom of the GOP Presidential candidate barrel when it comes to rather unfortunate statements from them or their lackeys?”
    Turtles all the way down!

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  8. “So, I ask you, dear reader, have we finally scraped the bottom of the GOP Presidential candidate barrel when it comes to rather unfortunate statements from them or their lackeys?”
    Turtles all the way down!

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  9. “So, I ask you, dear reader, have we finally scraped the bottom of the GOP Presidential candidate barrel when it comes to rather unfortunate statements from them or their lackeys?”
    Turtles all the way down!

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  10. Oh come on, Ugh! Huckabee may have the highest scoring single comment. But Trump is still well ahead on total points.
    And, as NV says, the race is young yet.

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  11. Oh come on, Ugh! Huckabee may have the highest scoring single comment. But Trump is still well ahead on total points.
    And, as NV says, the race is young yet.

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  12. Oh come on, Ugh! Huckabee may have the highest scoring single comment. But Trump is still well ahead on total points.
    And, as NV says, the race is young yet.

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  13. Please, Ugh. There’s still ~16mo to go, and around half that until primaries are in full swing. Have faith. We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
    I know, but jeez, “door of the oven” is a high bar.

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  14. Please, Ugh. There’s still ~16mo to go, and around half that until primaries are in full swing. Have faith. We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
    I know, but jeez, “door of the oven” is a high bar.

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  15. Please, Ugh. There’s still ~16mo to go, and around half that until primaries are in full swing. Have faith. We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
    I know, but jeez, “door of the oven” is a high bar.

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  16. Ugh: “I know, but jeez, “door of the oven” is a high bar.”
    How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?

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  17. Ugh: “I know, but jeez, “door of the oven” is a high bar.”
    How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?

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  18. Ugh: “I know, but jeez, “door of the oven” is a high bar.”
    How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?

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  19. Huckabee’s comment got a bit blunted by the numerous ‘Obama worse than Hitler’ statements from the Right since Obama got into office. And the Holocaust has long been abused already too for cheap political point scoring in the abortion debate (and in the context of Obamacare). And iirc remarks similar to that by Huckabee have been made by Israeli right-wingers in the past too. So to me the only half-way surprising thing here is that it was, of all people/candidates, Huckabee that crossed that particular line and not e.g. Cruz.
    Topping it? Maybe by calling Obama the n-word while accusing him of anal rape (chose your target, who will dare to say that his daughters were the victims?). He has been accused of being gay already and having murdered the witnesses of his affairs).

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  20. Huckabee’s comment got a bit blunted by the numerous ‘Obama worse than Hitler’ statements from the Right since Obama got into office. And the Holocaust has long been abused already too for cheap political point scoring in the abortion debate (and in the context of Obamacare). And iirc remarks similar to that by Huckabee have been made by Israeli right-wingers in the past too. So to me the only half-way surprising thing here is that it was, of all people/candidates, Huckabee that crossed that particular line and not e.g. Cruz.
    Topping it? Maybe by calling Obama the n-word while accusing him of anal rape (chose your target, who will dare to say that his daughters were the victims?). He has been accused of being gay already and having murdered the witnesses of his affairs).

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  21. Huckabee’s comment got a bit blunted by the numerous ‘Obama worse than Hitler’ statements from the Right since Obama got into office. And the Holocaust has long been abused already too for cheap political point scoring in the abortion debate (and in the context of Obamacare). And iirc remarks similar to that by Huckabee have been made by Israeli right-wingers in the past too. So to me the only half-way surprising thing here is that it was, of all people/candidates, Huckabee that crossed that particular line and not e.g. Cruz.
    Topping it? Maybe by calling Obama the n-word while accusing him of anal rape (chose your target, who will dare to say that his daughters were the victims?). He has been accused of being gay already and having murdered the witnesses of his affairs).

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  22. Hartmut: ” So to me the only half-way surprising thing here is that it was, of all people/candidates, Huckabee that crossed that particular line and not e.g. Cruz.”
    Huckabee is a guy who’s been drifting off of the deep end for a while, but who has a reputation as reasonable and moderate, from a decade ago.

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  23. Hartmut: ” So to me the only half-way surprising thing here is that it was, of all people/candidates, Huckabee that crossed that particular line and not e.g. Cruz.”
    Huckabee is a guy who’s been drifting off of the deep end for a while, but who has a reputation as reasonable and moderate, from a decade ago.

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  24. Hartmut: ” So to me the only half-way surprising thing here is that it was, of all people/candidates, Huckabee that crossed that particular line and not e.g. Cruz.”
    Huckabee is a guy who’s been drifting off of the deep end for a while, but who has a reputation as reasonable and moderate, from a decade ago.

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  25. It’s not just a question of lack of decency/moderation/reason but of personal style. I would not have expected this style of remark from ol’ Mike.

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  26. It’s not just a question of lack of decency/moderation/reason but of personal style. I would not have expected this style of remark from ol’ Mike.

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  27. It’s not just a question of lack of decency/moderation/reason but of personal style. I would not have expected this style of remark from ol’ Mike.

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  28. I would not have expected this style of remark from ol’ Mike.
    Trump has moved the GOP right to the edge of the cliff overlooking the Sea of Id. some are jumping in.

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  29. I would not have expected this style of remark from ol’ Mike.
    Trump has moved the GOP right to the edge of the cliff overlooking the Sea of Id. some are jumping in.

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  30. I would not have expected this style of remark from ol’ Mike.
    Trump has moved the GOP right to the edge of the cliff overlooking the Sea of Id. some are jumping in.

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  31. How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?
    If only we could harness it to the power grid.

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  32. How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?
    If only we could harness it to the power grid.

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  33. How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?
    If only we could harness it to the power grid.

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  34. They aren’t even close to the bottom of the barrel they’ve been digging in these past 50 years to find a rotten rhetoric to destroy, in a Civil War every bit as vicious as the original one, Newt Gingrich named it, every last vestige of civility toward the tens of millions of their enemies in this country, even those few remaining decent “moderates” who might now be ashamed to call themselves “Republican”, but still want their taxes cut.
    “Dumpster fire” is perhaps a better metaphor.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2016-presidential-election-already-dumpster-101500085.html
    See, I disagree with this:
    “Trump has moved the GOP right to the edge of the cliff overlooking the Sea of Id. some are jumping in.”
    No, he hasn’t moved anything. Trump, along with the Tea Party sadists, has merely perfected a rhetoric to further release them from the constraints and any last vestige of “politically correct” human decency left, something they’ve wanted for decades, and now they have it.
    I read this morning that conservative Christian Evangelicals are enthralled and reveling in Trump’s rhetorical projectile vomiting, just in case anyone thought their real view of things hadn’t already turned Scripture into toilet paper.
    And they are rolling around in it like pigf*ckers in their own celebratory sh*t.
    It frees them to speak just as they do in private to their pig vermin conservative friends and families.
    Segments of law enforcement and the entire demagogic conservative political establishment, edged on by big money, conservative, racist haters and their vermin media and internet filth, are feeling ascendant, but also victimized, the poor sh*ts, and they now finally have a “rhetoric” to show and tell their true colors.
    Trump’s rhetoric mainlined straight into the ready and waiting central artery of this hate-machine monstrosity called the Republican Party rivals Walter White/Heisenburg’s’ formula for that pure blue ice meth that even hardened sub-human filth like Tuco Salamanca took one taste of and were sold on, in “Breaking Bad”.
    He’s cornered their market and they love it and they want more, and they will want more and more as we approach 2016 and God help us after that.
    It’s broken bad, and there will be no going back. I can’t wait to hear the next Republican President utter the sentiment of “bringing us all together” in his first words in the office.
    After this 50-year display of malevolence?
    As Lincoln said to Jefferson Davis, “Go f*ck yourself. There’s only one way this Nation comes together, on my terms. But first, you die!
    We didn’t see this coming? The total radicalization of rhetoric parallels the total radicalization of their weapons fetishes. First possess without limit, then concealed carry without limit, then open carry without limit.
    What’s next?
    And for what? Why is Putin authorizing armed militias in the streets of Moscow with the rhetoric and the arms of hate? Why did bands of thug armed brownshirts in the late 1920s and early 1930s in Germany and Austria suddenly become an unthwartable movement, with a language of hate and the guns and violence to back it up.
    Examine the rhetoric of the Confederacy — whose ideological remnants now geographically dispersed have been courted and molded by the Republican Party in fits and starts since the 1950s, in the modern era, into a malicious political force — from the late 1840’s to the election of Lincoln in 1860 and see how they found a rhetoric, and repeated it year after year that evolved over time into horrific violence and encouraged that violence against their country and its institutions.
    It just gets worse every two years. And has for decades, purposefully. Meanwhile, as the percentage of the Americans who own weapons declines, the so-called remaining stinking Americans stockpile weaponry of high caliber and ammo and flaunt the things, and boast of their hatred of the OTHER and the government and, what are you gonna do about it, because these f*ckers have all the guns and they bring them to every f*cking political venue.
    Besides, Huckabee’s rhetoric is not the most dangerous of last week’s outbursts to try to put him over the finish line into the FOX top ten, a cynical contest devised by vermin that turns political posturing into a reality show of testoterone-loaded teenagers let loose on an island we just happen to live on, with machine guns, hand grenades, crossbows, chainsaws and machetes to determine which ten ruthless winners move on to next week’s show aboard the pirate ship that will invade the mainland.
    No, I’d say the most murderous rhetoric was Jeb Bush’s prescribing the end of Medicare.
    But that genocide, along with his other ideas for Death to the poor and the elderly, and the sick, doesn’t sound so bad does it, as Huckabee, Cruz, Paul, and a host of others dance and rave around the fire in the foreground while wearing necklaces of skulls and scalps around their necks?
    It’s a diversion, so the real killers and their sponsers can take the reins.
    These people hate our f*cking guts and they have the weapons to carry out whatever they feel is required by the demands of their ideology and its rhetoric.
    How’s that sort of set up turned out too many times before in history?

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  35. They aren’t even close to the bottom of the barrel they’ve been digging in these past 50 years to find a rotten rhetoric to destroy, in a Civil War every bit as vicious as the original one, Newt Gingrich named it, every last vestige of civility toward the tens of millions of their enemies in this country, even those few remaining decent “moderates” who might now be ashamed to call themselves “Republican”, but still want their taxes cut.
    “Dumpster fire” is perhaps a better metaphor.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2016-presidential-election-already-dumpster-101500085.html
    See, I disagree with this:
    “Trump has moved the GOP right to the edge of the cliff overlooking the Sea of Id. some are jumping in.”
    No, he hasn’t moved anything. Trump, along with the Tea Party sadists, has merely perfected a rhetoric to further release them from the constraints and any last vestige of “politically correct” human decency left, something they’ve wanted for decades, and now they have it.
    I read this morning that conservative Christian Evangelicals are enthralled and reveling in Trump’s rhetorical projectile vomiting, just in case anyone thought their real view of things hadn’t already turned Scripture into toilet paper.
    And they are rolling around in it like pigf*ckers in their own celebratory sh*t.
    It frees them to speak just as they do in private to their pig vermin conservative friends and families.
    Segments of law enforcement and the entire demagogic conservative political establishment, edged on by big money, conservative, racist haters and their vermin media and internet filth, are feeling ascendant, but also victimized, the poor sh*ts, and they now finally have a “rhetoric” to show and tell their true colors.
    Trump’s rhetoric mainlined straight into the ready and waiting central artery of this hate-machine monstrosity called the Republican Party rivals Walter White/Heisenburg’s’ formula for that pure blue ice meth that even hardened sub-human filth like Tuco Salamanca took one taste of and were sold on, in “Breaking Bad”.
    He’s cornered their market and they love it and they want more, and they will want more and more as we approach 2016 and God help us after that.
    It’s broken bad, and there will be no going back. I can’t wait to hear the next Republican President utter the sentiment of “bringing us all together” in his first words in the office.
    After this 50-year display of malevolence?
    As Lincoln said to Jefferson Davis, “Go f*ck yourself. There’s only one way this Nation comes together, on my terms. But first, you die!
    We didn’t see this coming? The total radicalization of rhetoric parallels the total radicalization of their weapons fetishes. First possess without limit, then concealed carry without limit, then open carry without limit.
    What’s next?
    And for what? Why is Putin authorizing armed militias in the streets of Moscow with the rhetoric and the arms of hate? Why did bands of thug armed brownshirts in the late 1920s and early 1930s in Germany and Austria suddenly become an unthwartable movement, with a language of hate and the guns and violence to back it up.
    Examine the rhetoric of the Confederacy — whose ideological remnants now geographically dispersed have been courted and molded by the Republican Party in fits and starts since the 1950s, in the modern era, into a malicious political force — from the late 1840’s to the election of Lincoln in 1860 and see how they found a rhetoric, and repeated it year after year that evolved over time into horrific violence and encouraged that violence against their country and its institutions.
    It just gets worse every two years. And has for decades, purposefully. Meanwhile, as the percentage of the Americans who own weapons declines, the so-called remaining stinking Americans stockpile weaponry of high caliber and ammo and flaunt the things, and boast of their hatred of the OTHER and the government and, what are you gonna do about it, because these f*ckers have all the guns and they bring them to every f*cking political venue.
    Besides, Huckabee’s rhetoric is not the most dangerous of last week’s outbursts to try to put him over the finish line into the FOX top ten, a cynical contest devised by vermin that turns political posturing into a reality show of testoterone-loaded teenagers let loose on an island we just happen to live on, with machine guns, hand grenades, crossbows, chainsaws and machetes to determine which ten ruthless winners move on to next week’s show aboard the pirate ship that will invade the mainland.
    No, I’d say the most murderous rhetoric was Jeb Bush’s prescribing the end of Medicare.
    But that genocide, along with his other ideas for Death to the poor and the elderly, and the sick, doesn’t sound so bad does it, as Huckabee, Cruz, Paul, and a host of others dance and rave around the fire in the foreground while wearing necklaces of skulls and scalps around their necks?
    It’s a diversion, so the real killers and their sponsers can take the reins.
    These people hate our f*cking guts and they have the weapons to carry out whatever they feel is required by the demands of their ideology and its rhetoric.
    How’s that sort of set up turned out too many times before in history?

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  36. They aren’t even close to the bottom of the barrel they’ve been digging in these past 50 years to find a rotten rhetoric to destroy, in a Civil War every bit as vicious as the original one, Newt Gingrich named it, every last vestige of civility toward the tens of millions of their enemies in this country, even those few remaining decent “moderates” who might now be ashamed to call themselves “Republican”, but still want their taxes cut.
    “Dumpster fire” is perhaps a better metaphor.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2016-presidential-election-already-dumpster-101500085.html
    See, I disagree with this:
    “Trump has moved the GOP right to the edge of the cliff overlooking the Sea of Id. some are jumping in.”
    No, he hasn’t moved anything. Trump, along with the Tea Party sadists, has merely perfected a rhetoric to further release them from the constraints and any last vestige of “politically correct” human decency left, something they’ve wanted for decades, and now they have it.
    I read this morning that conservative Christian Evangelicals are enthralled and reveling in Trump’s rhetorical projectile vomiting, just in case anyone thought their real view of things hadn’t already turned Scripture into toilet paper.
    And they are rolling around in it like pigf*ckers in their own celebratory sh*t.
    It frees them to speak just as they do in private to their pig vermin conservative friends and families.
    Segments of law enforcement and the entire demagogic conservative political establishment, edged on by big money, conservative, racist haters and their vermin media and internet filth, are feeling ascendant, but also victimized, the poor sh*ts, and they now finally have a “rhetoric” to show and tell their true colors.
    Trump’s rhetoric mainlined straight into the ready and waiting central artery of this hate-machine monstrosity called the Republican Party rivals Walter White/Heisenburg’s’ formula for that pure blue ice meth that even hardened sub-human filth like Tuco Salamanca took one taste of and were sold on, in “Breaking Bad”.
    He’s cornered their market and they love it and they want more, and they will want more and more as we approach 2016 and God help us after that.
    It’s broken bad, and there will be no going back. I can’t wait to hear the next Republican President utter the sentiment of “bringing us all together” in his first words in the office.
    After this 50-year display of malevolence?
    As Lincoln said to Jefferson Davis, “Go f*ck yourself. There’s only one way this Nation comes together, on my terms. But first, you die!
    We didn’t see this coming? The total radicalization of rhetoric parallels the total radicalization of their weapons fetishes. First possess without limit, then concealed carry without limit, then open carry without limit.
    What’s next?
    And for what? Why is Putin authorizing armed militias in the streets of Moscow with the rhetoric and the arms of hate? Why did bands of thug armed brownshirts in the late 1920s and early 1930s in Germany and Austria suddenly become an unthwartable movement, with a language of hate and the guns and violence to back it up.
    Examine the rhetoric of the Confederacy — whose ideological remnants now geographically dispersed have been courted and molded by the Republican Party in fits and starts since the 1950s, in the modern era, into a malicious political force — from the late 1840’s to the election of Lincoln in 1860 and see how they found a rhetoric, and repeated it year after year that evolved over time into horrific violence and encouraged that violence against their country and its institutions.
    It just gets worse every two years. And has for decades, purposefully. Meanwhile, as the percentage of the Americans who own weapons declines, the so-called remaining stinking Americans stockpile weaponry of high caliber and ammo and flaunt the things, and boast of their hatred of the OTHER and the government and, what are you gonna do about it, because these f*ckers have all the guns and they bring them to every f*cking political venue.
    Besides, Huckabee’s rhetoric is not the most dangerous of last week’s outbursts to try to put him over the finish line into the FOX top ten, a cynical contest devised by vermin that turns political posturing into a reality show of testoterone-loaded teenagers let loose on an island we just happen to live on, with machine guns, hand grenades, crossbows, chainsaws and machetes to determine which ten ruthless winners move on to next week’s show aboard the pirate ship that will invade the mainland.
    No, I’d say the most murderous rhetoric was Jeb Bush’s prescribing the end of Medicare.
    But that genocide, along with his other ideas for Death to the poor and the elderly, and the sick, doesn’t sound so bad does it, as Huckabee, Cruz, Paul, and a host of others dance and rave around the fire in the foreground while wearing necklaces of skulls and scalps around their necks?
    It’s a diversion, so the real killers and their sponsers can take the reins.
    These people hate our f*cking guts and they have the weapons to carry out whatever they feel is required by the demands of their ideology and its rhetoric.
    How’s that sort of set up turned out too many times before in history?

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  37. With reference to the Count’s 4:54, this is from bobbyp’s cite, in another thread, discussing Polanyi:

    The great danger Polanyi alerts us to, however, is that mobilizing politics to protect against markets run wild is just as likely to be reactionary and conservative, as it is to be progressive and democratic. Whereas the American New Deal was Polanyi’s example of a democratic counter movement, fascism was the classic instance of a reactionary counter-movement; it provided protection to some while utterly destroying democratic institutions.
    This helps us to understand the tea party as a response to the uncertainties and disruptions that free market globalization has brought to many white Americans, particularly in the South and Midwest. When people demonstrate against Obamacare with signs saying “Keep Your Government Hands off My Medicare,” they are trying to protect their own health care benefits from changes that they see as threatening what they have. When they express deep hostility to immigrants and immigration reform, they are responding to a perceived threat to their own resources—now considerably diminished from outsourcing and deindustrialization. Polanyi teaches us that in the face of market failures and instabilities we must be relentlessly vigilant to the threats to democracy that are often not immediately apparent in the political mobilizations of the double movement.

    Or, the tl:dr version, what Polanyi said.
    I personally see modern conservatism as a profoundly reactionary movement, and one that is disturbingly attractive to angry, violent, unbalanced people. FWIW.
    It’s not like we haven’t seen political violence before here in the good old USA, and plenty of it for that matter.
    I’d just prefer to do without it, if possible.

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  38. With reference to the Count’s 4:54, this is from bobbyp’s cite, in another thread, discussing Polanyi:

    The great danger Polanyi alerts us to, however, is that mobilizing politics to protect against markets run wild is just as likely to be reactionary and conservative, as it is to be progressive and democratic. Whereas the American New Deal was Polanyi’s example of a democratic counter movement, fascism was the classic instance of a reactionary counter-movement; it provided protection to some while utterly destroying democratic institutions.
    This helps us to understand the tea party as a response to the uncertainties and disruptions that free market globalization has brought to many white Americans, particularly in the South and Midwest. When people demonstrate against Obamacare with signs saying “Keep Your Government Hands off My Medicare,” they are trying to protect their own health care benefits from changes that they see as threatening what they have. When they express deep hostility to immigrants and immigration reform, they are responding to a perceived threat to their own resources—now considerably diminished from outsourcing and deindustrialization. Polanyi teaches us that in the face of market failures and instabilities we must be relentlessly vigilant to the threats to democracy that are often not immediately apparent in the political mobilizations of the double movement.

    Or, the tl:dr version, what Polanyi said.
    I personally see modern conservatism as a profoundly reactionary movement, and one that is disturbingly attractive to angry, violent, unbalanced people. FWIW.
    It’s not like we haven’t seen political violence before here in the good old USA, and plenty of it for that matter.
    I’d just prefer to do without it, if possible.

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  39. With reference to the Count’s 4:54, this is from bobbyp’s cite, in another thread, discussing Polanyi:

    The great danger Polanyi alerts us to, however, is that mobilizing politics to protect against markets run wild is just as likely to be reactionary and conservative, as it is to be progressive and democratic. Whereas the American New Deal was Polanyi’s example of a democratic counter movement, fascism was the classic instance of a reactionary counter-movement; it provided protection to some while utterly destroying democratic institutions.
    This helps us to understand the tea party as a response to the uncertainties and disruptions that free market globalization has brought to many white Americans, particularly in the South and Midwest. When people demonstrate against Obamacare with signs saying “Keep Your Government Hands off My Medicare,” they are trying to protect their own health care benefits from changes that they see as threatening what they have. When they express deep hostility to immigrants and immigration reform, they are responding to a perceived threat to their own resources—now considerably diminished from outsourcing and deindustrialization. Polanyi teaches us that in the face of market failures and instabilities we must be relentlessly vigilant to the threats to democracy that are often not immediately apparent in the political mobilizations of the double movement.

    Or, the tl:dr version, what Polanyi said.
    I personally see modern conservatism as a profoundly reactionary movement, and one that is disturbingly attractive to angry, violent, unbalanced people. FWIW.
    It’s not like we haven’t seen political violence before here in the good old USA, and plenty of it for that matter.
    I’d just prefer to do without it, if possible.

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  40. No, I’d say the most murderous rhetoric was Jeb Bush’s prescribing the end of Medicare.
    Yep. We are all guilty of excessive rhetoric from time to time (cough, cough), but advocating a policy that will literally kill people…???? And please, reducing Medicare benefits kills..No ifs. No ands. No buts.

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  41. No, I’d say the most murderous rhetoric was Jeb Bush’s prescribing the end of Medicare.
    Yep. We are all guilty of excessive rhetoric from time to time (cough, cough), but advocating a policy that will literally kill people…???? And please, reducing Medicare benefits kills..No ifs. No ands. No buts.

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  42. No, I’d say the most murderous rhetoric was Jeb Bush’s prescribing the end of Medicare.
    Yep. We are all guilty of excessive rhetoric from time to time (cough, cough), but advocating a policy that will literally kill people…???? And please, reducing Medicare benefits kills..No ifs. No ands. No buts.

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  43. “We are all guilty of excessive rhetoric from time to time”
    Guilty as charged! But doesn’t it make a difference whether there is some actual capability to back up the rhetoric?
    I, for one, have only *occasionally* threatened to destroy the Earth; and while my plan for doing so is elegant and awesome (tossing the Earth into the depths of interstellar space), there just never seems to be enough time in the day to do very much about it.
    Oh well.

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  44. “We are all guilty of excessive rhetoric from time to time”
    Guilty as charged! But doesn’t it make a difference whether there is some actual capability to back up the rhetoric?
    I, for one, have only *occasionally* threatened to destroy the Earth; and while my plan for doing so is elegant and awesome (tossing the Earth into the depths of interstellar space), there just never seems to be enough time in the day to do very much about it.
    Oh well.

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  45. “We are all guilty of excessive rhetoric from time to time”
    Guilty as charged! But doesn’t it make a difference whether there is some actual capability to back up the rhetoric?
    I, for one, have only *occasionally* threatened to destroy the Earth; and while my plan for doing so is elegant and awesome (tossing the Earth into the depths of interstellar space), there just never seems to be enough time in the day to do very much about it.
    Oh well.

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  46. It’s the habituation-tolerance cycle of addiction: you need to increase the dose to get the same high the old dose gave you.
    I don’t know what it is that the GOP is addicted to – hatred? rage? maniacal rhetoric? – but they don’t show any signs of OD’ing anytime soon.
    At this rate, it wouldn’t surprise me if they burn effigies at their national convention, while the thousands of delegates chant “Kill them, kill them! Kill them all!”

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  47. It’s the habituation-tolerance cycle of addiction: you need to increase the dose to get the same high the old dose gave you.
    I don’t know what it is that the GOP is addicted to – hatred? rage? maniacal rhetoric? – but they don’t show any signs of OD’ing anytime soon.
    At this rate, it wouldn’t surprise me if they burn effigies at their national convention, while the thousands of delegates chant “Kill them, kill them! Kill them all!”

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  48. It’s the habituation-tolerance cycle of addiction: you need to increase the dose to get the same high the old dose gave you.
    I don’t know what it is that the GOP is addicted to – hatred? rage? maniacal rhetoric? – but they don’t show any signs of OD’ing anytime soon.
    At this rate, it wouldn’t surprise me if they burn effigies at their national convention, while the thousands of delegates chant “Kill them, kill them! Kill them all!”

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  49. I suppose none of them are learned enough to go with “Kill them all; God will know his own!”
    It would make such a great “analysis” of what should happen in
    a) the Midfdle East,
    b) the South China Sea,
    c) (not necessarily just North) Korea,
    d) Cuba,
    e) anywhere else that might enter their consciousness once those four are dealt with.

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  50. I suppose none of them are learned enough to go with “Kill them all; God will know his own!”
    It would make such a great “analysis” of what should happen in
    a) the Midfdle East,
    b) the South China Sea,
    c) (not necessarily just North) Korea,
    d) Cuba,
    e) anywhere else that might enter their consciousness once those four are dealt with.

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  51. I suppose none of them are learned enough to go with “Kill them all; God will know his own!”
    It would make such a great “analysis” of what should happen in
    a) the Midfdle East,
    b) the South China Sea,
    c) (not necessarily just North) Korea,
    d) Cuba,
    e) anywhere else that might enter their consciousness once those four are dealt with.

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  52. Does anyone here really care why the frightened, angry rhetoric keeps escalating? No.
    Here is why though, Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it. Wasserman-Schultz, and someone upthread, accuse him of threatening to kill seniors. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    his response?
    “It took less than a day for me to be attacked for the very thing that I predicted would happen and that’s just ridiculous. We need to have a grown-up conversation about these issues,” Bush said to reporters after the town hall.
    This is the bottom of the barrel? I don’t think so.

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  53. Does anyone here really care why the frightened, angry rhetoric keeps escalating? No.
    Here is why though, Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it. Wasserman-Schultz, and someone upthread, accuse him of threatening to kill seniors. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    his response?
    “It took less than a day for me to be attacked for the very thing that I predicted would happen and that’s just ridiculous. We need to have a grown-up conversation about these issues,” Bush said to reporters after the town hall.
    This is the bottom of the barrel? I don’t think so.

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  54. Does anyone here really care why the frightened, angry rhetoric keeps escalating? No.
    Here is why though, Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it. Wasserman-Schultz, and someone upthread, accuse him of threatening to kill seniors. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    his response?
    “It took less than a day for me to be attacked for the very thing that I predicted would happen and that’s just ridiculous. We need to have a grown-up conversation about these issues,” Bush said to reporters after the town hall.
    This is the bottom of the barrel? I don’t think so.

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  55. Me: “How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?
    Ugh: “If only we could harness it to the power grid.”
    Nah, that would be like ‘Poltergeist 666 – The Poltergeistist’.
    Imagine pig sh*t which has been sitting out in the sun for all of July spraying out of all of the electrical sockets in your house.
    Imagine walking up behind your child watching TV, and That Which Was Formerly Your Kid turning towards you, it’s face morphing between the various Klowns, as green vomit pours out of its mouth, coating you with the vile essence of bile.
    Imagine yourself running towards a swarm of starving rats, hoping that they’ll eat you in itty-bitty bites, because that death would be better than the unlife which you are now stuck in.

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  56. Me: “How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?
    Ugh: “If only we could harness it to the power grid.”
    Nah, that would be like ‘Poltergeist 666 – The Poltergeistist’.
    Imagine pig sh*t which has been sitting out in the sun for all of July spraying out of all of the electrical sockets in your house.
    Imagine walking up behind your child watching TV, and That Which Was Formerly Your Kid turning towards you, it’s face morphing between the various Klowns, as green vomit pours out of its mouth, coating you with the vile essence of bile.
    Imagine yourself running towards a swarm of starving rats, hoping that they’ll eat you in itty-bitty bites, because that death would be better than the unlife which you are now stuck in.

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  57. Me: “How many times have you thought that we *had* to have reached Peak Wingnut, and found out that it was still climbing?
    Ugh: “If only we could harness it to the power grid.”
    Nah, that would be like ‘Poltergeist 666 – The Poltergeistist’.
    Imagine pig sh*t which has been sitting out in the sun for all of July spraying out of all of the electrical sockets in your house.
    Imagine walking up behind your child watching TV, and That Which Was Formerly Your Kid turning towards you, it’s face morphing between the various Klowns, as green vomit pours out of its mouth, coating you with the vile essence of bile.
    Imagine yourself running towards a swarm of starving rats, hoping that they’ll eat you in itty-bitty bites, because that death would be better than the unlife which you are now stuck in.

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  58. Here is why though, Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it. Wasserman-Schultz, and someone upthread, accuse him of threatening to kill seniors. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    Someone upthread is neither running for president nor a prominent member of the Democratic party, be it as an office holder or an official in an important party committee, to my knowledge. You might find relevance in quoting Wasserman-Schultz so we can see how over-the-top her rhetoric was. Nothing I’ve been able to find approaches sending Israelis (Jews, one would guess) into ovens (a la Holocaust, one would also guess).

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  59. Here is why though, Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it. Wasserman-Schultz, and someone upthread, accuse him of threatening to kill seniors. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    Someone upthread is neither running for president nor a prominent member of the Democratic party, be it as an office holder or an official in an important party committee, to my knowledge. You might find relevance in quoting Wasserman-Schultz so we can see how over-the-top her rhetoric was. Nothing I’ve been able to find approaches sending Israelis (Jews, one would guess) into ovens (a la Holocaust, one would also guess).

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  60. Here is why though, Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it. Wasserman-Schultz, and someone upthread, accuse him of threatening to kill seniors. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    Someone upthread is neither running for president nor a prominent member of the Democratic party, be it as an office holder or an official in an important party committee, to my knowledge. You might find relevance in quoting Wasserman-Schultz so we can see how over-the-top her rhetoric was. Nothing I’ve been able to find approaches sending Israelis (Jews, one would guess) into ovens (a la Holocaust, one would also guess).

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  61. Marty,
    Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    Bush called for Medicare to be phased out. That’s not fixing it.
    He offered no actual program to change it to meet whatever the problems may be. That’s not “a way to approach it.”
    He seems not to have any understanding of the mechanics or finances of the system, other than having memorized a few scare numbers.
    So no. His comments don’t deserve to be taken seriously, and to the extent he merely wants to phase Medicare out it’s fair to ask what the consequences for mortality would be.

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  62. Marty,
    Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    Bush called for Medicare to be phased out. That’s not fixing it.
    He offered no actual program to change it to meet whatever the problems may be. That’s not “a way to approach it.”
    He seems not to have any understanding of the mechanics or finances of the system, other than having memorized a few scare numbers.
    So no. His comments don’t deserve to be taken seriously, and to the extent he merely wants to phase Medicare out it’s fair to ask what the consequences for mortality would be.

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  63. Marty,
    Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    Bush called for Medicare to be phased out. That’s not fixing it.
    He offered no actual program to change it to meet whatever the problems may be. That’s not “a way to approach it.”
    He seems not to have any understanding of the mechanics or finances of the system, other than having memorized a few scare numbers.
    So no. His comments don’t deserve to be taken seriously, and to the extent he merely wants to phase Medicare out it’s fair to ask what the consequences for mortality would be.

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  64. I’d still like to see the overheated rhetoric from Wasserman-Schultz Marty was referring to, even if she isn’t fair game according to the OP, just because I’m pretty sure it’s going to be comparatively weak stuff based on what I’ve already seen.
    I’ll just be over here tapping my foot with my arms crossed.

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  65. I’d still like to see the overheated rhetoric from Wasserman-Schultz Marty was referring to, even if she isn’t fair game according to the OP, just because I’m pretty sure it’s going to be comparatively weak stuff based on what I’ve already seen.
    I’ll just be over here tapping my foot with my arms crossed.

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  66. I’d still like to see the overheated rhetoric from Wasserman-Schultz Marty was referring to, even if she isn’t fair game according to the OP, just because I’m pretty sure it’s going to be comparatively weak stuff based on what I’ve already seen.
    I’ll just be over here tapping my foot with my arms crossed.

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  67. I am not really all that fascinated with what DWS has to say on any topic.
    It’s not as if she has expert knowledge on any topic.

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  68. I am not really all that fascinated with what DWS has to say on any topic.
    It’s not as if she has expert knowledge on any topic.

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  69. I am not really all that fascinated with what DWS has to say on any topic.
    It’s not as if she has expert knowledge on any topic.

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  70. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    No. He did not. The remark is deserving of nothing but scorn.

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  71. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    No. He did not. The remark is deserving of nothing but scorn.

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  72. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    No. He did not. The remark is deserving of nothing but scorn.

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  73. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    No. He did not. The remarks were deserving of nothing but scorn.

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  74. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    No. He did not. The remarks were deserving of nothing but scorn.

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  75. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    No. He did not. The remarks were deserving of nothing but scorn.

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  76. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    If you propose to end Medicare and voucherize it, you are proposing to price a great many people out of the medical services market. If people do not get medical care, some percentage of them will die unnecessarily due to a lack of care.
    You can call this hateful rhetoric all you like. Enjoy yourself.

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  77. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    If you propose to end Medicare and voucherize it, you are proposing to price a great many people out of the medical services market. If people do not get medical care, some percentage of them will die unnecessarily due to a lack of care.
    You can call this hateful rhetoric all you like. Enjoy yourself.

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  78. And that isn’t hateful rhetoric?
    If you propose to end Medicare and voucherize it, you are proposing to price a great many people out of the medical services market. If people do not get medical care, some percentage of them will die unnecessarily due to a lack of care.
    You can call this hateful rhetoric all you like. Enjoy yourself.

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  79. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    Jeb on Medicare.
    I see some quotes from the Trustee’s report indicating that the the program is at risk in the 2030 time frame.
    I don’t see a single policy proposal.
    Is the intelligent discussion about the “way to approach” available someplace else?

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  80. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    Jeb on Medicare.
    I see some quotes from the Trustee’s report indicating that the the program is at risk in the 2030 time frame.
    I don’t see a single policy proposal.
    Is the intelligent discussion about the “way to approach” available someplace else?

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  81. Bush has a perfectly intelligent discussion about the need to fix Medicare, and a way to approach it.
    Jeb on Medicare.
    I see some quotes from the Trustee’s report indicating that the the program is at risk in the 2030 time frame.
    I don’t see a single policy proposal.
    Is the intelligent discussion about the “way to approach” available someplace else?

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  82. i wonder if Fox knew that their top-10 cutoff rule was going to turn these run-up weeks into a free for all… they’re basically running their own primary right now.

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  83. i wonder if Fox knew that their top-10 cutoff rule was going to turn these run-up weeks into a free for all… they’re basically running their own primary right now.

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  84. i wonder if Fox knew that their top-10 cutoff rule was going to turn these run-up weeks into a free for all… they’re basically running their own primary right now.

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  85. I also wonder if Fox is going to be targeted with lawsuits seeking to “unskew the polls” for those candidates in the n ^gt; 10 group.
    Or perhaps we should call them “..to INFINITY, and BEYOND!”

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  86. I also wonder if Fox is going to be targeted with lawsuits seeking to “unskew the polls” for those candidates in the n ^gt; 10 group.
    Or perhaps we should call them “..to INFINITY, and BEYOND!”

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  87. I also wonder if Fox is going to be targeted with lawsuits seeking to “unskew the polls” for those candidates in the n ^gt; 10 group.
    Or perhaps we should call them “..to INFINITY, and BEYOND!”

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  88. That’s supposed to be n > 10 or n>10. Never can tell when the html is going to matter.
    Ah screw it, go old-school.
    N .GT. 10

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  89. That’s supposed to be n > 10 or n>10. Never can tell when the html is going to matter.
    Ah screw it, go old-school.
    N .GT. 10

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  90. That’s supposed to be n > 10 or n>10. Never can tell when the html is going to matter.
    Ah screw it, go old-school.
    N .GT. 10

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  91. Cruz:
    “If this deal is consummated, it will make the Obama administration the world’s leading financier of radical Islamic terrorism,”

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  92. Cruz:
    “If this deal is consummated, it will make the Obama administration the world’s leading financier of radical Islamic terrorism,”

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  93. Cruz:
    “If this deal is consummated, it will make the Obama administration the world’s leading financier of radical Islamic terrorism,”

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  94. We’ve done a lot of speculating about the damage that Trump will do to the Republican brand before he flames out this fall. But suppose that doesn’t happen. Suppose we get through the spring of next year, and Trump is still in the top tier of would-be Republican nominees — winning some primaries and showing well in others.
    Granted, the Democrats would be popping champaigne corks (however prematurely). But what would be the impact on down ballot races? I mean, in that circumstance, wouldn’t there be lots of down-ballot races where the, for lack of a better term, Trump faction candidates were doing well as well? Do we think that those candidates would end up costing Republicans seats in Congress — not to mention state legislatures?
    My guess is that we would indeed see a “Trump faction” arising. And that, although it might do well in primaries, it would cost the Republicans big-time in November. But maybe I am underestimating the attraction of Trump and his approach to the average general election voter.

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  95. We’ve done a lot of speculating about the damage that Trump will do to the Republican brand before he flames out this fall. But suppose that doesn’t happen. Suppose we get through the spring of next year, and Trump is still in the top tier of would-be Republican nominees — winning some primaries and showing well in others.
    Granted, the Democrats would be popping champaigne corks (however prematurely). But what would be the impact on down ballot races? I mean, in that circumstance, wouldn’t there be lots of down-ballot races where the, for lack of a better term, Trump faction candidates were doing well as well? Do we think that those candidates would end up costing Republicans seats in Congress — not to mention state legislatures?
    My guess is that we would indeed see a “Trump faction” arising. And that, although it might do well in primaries, it would cost the Republicans big-time in November. But maybe I am underestimating the attraction of Trump and his approach to the average general election voter.

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  96. We’ve done a lot of speculating about the damage that Trump will do to the Republican brand before he flames out this fall. But suppose that doesn’t happen. Suppose we get through the spring of next year, and Trump is still in the top tier of would-be Republican nominees — winning some primaries and showing well in others.
    Granted, the Democrats would be popping champaigne corks (however prematurely). But what would be the impact on down ballot races? I mean, in that circumstance, wouldn’t there be lots of down-ballot races where the, for lack of a better term, Trump faction candidates were doing well as well? Do we think that those candidates would end up costing Republicans seats in Congress — not to mention state legislatures?
    My guess is that we would indeed see a “Trump faction” arising. And that, although it might do well in primaries, it would cost the Republicans big-time in November. But maybe I am underestimating the attraction of Trump and his approach to the average general election voter.

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  97. Cruz:
    “If this deal is consummated, it will make the Obama administration the world’s leading financier of radical Islamic terrorism,”

    Bigger than Exxon Mobile? Wow!

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  98. Cruz:
    “If this deal is consummated, it will make the Obama administration the world’s leading financier of radical Islamic terrorism,”

    Bigger than Exxon Mobile? Wow!

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  99. Cruz:
    “If this deal is consummated, it will make the Obama administration the world’s leading financier of radical Islamic terrorism,”

    Bigger than Exxon Mobile? Wow!

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  100. The important question is: “What is the minimum amount of work Trump has to do, while maximizing his payoff from the Koch’s to drop out of the race.”
    IMO, that point will be reached soon after the debates, add a week for the check to clear, and Trump’ll flounce out in mid-August.

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  101. The important question is: “What is the minimum amount of work Trump has to do, while maximizing his payoff from the Koch’s to drop out of the race.”
    IMO, that point will be reached soon after the debates, add a week for the check to clear, and Trump’ll flounce out in mid-August.

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  102. The important question is: “What is the minimum amount of work Trump has to do, while maximizing his payoff from the Koch’s to drop out of the race.”
    IMO, that point will be reached soon after the debates, add a week for the check to clear, and Trump’ll flounce out in mid-August.

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  103. http://boingboing.net/2015/07/30/interview-with-trump-supporter.html
    “He speaks the truth.”
    “He doesn’t care what people think.”
    “I like his roughness.”
    “He’s like one of us … besides the money issue.”
    “He said he’ll put a wall down on the southern border. When you talk about common sense, that’s the commonsense thing to do.”
    “He’s successful. I wanna be a billionare.”
    [Interviewer: “Tell me what a Trump presidency would look like?”] “Classy.”
    “I think we could be a proud America again.”
    “To the American people it would be a presidency of hope.”

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  104. http://boingboing.net/2015/07/30/interview-with-trump-supporter.html
    “He speaks the truth.”
    “He doesn’t care what people think.”
    “I like his roughness.”
    “He’s like one of us … besides the money issue.”
    “He said he’ll put a wall down on the southern border. When you talk about common sense, that’s the commonsense thing to do.”
    “He’s successful. I wanna be a billionare.”
    [Interviewer: “Tell me what a Trump presidency would look like?”] “Classy.”
    “I think we could be a proud America again.”
    “To the American people it would be a presidency of hope.”

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  105. http://boingboing.net/2015/07/30/interview-with-trump-supporter.html
    “He speaks the truth.”
    “He doesn’t care what people think.”
    “I like his roughness.”
    “He’s like one of us … besides the money issue.”
    “He said he’ll put a wall down on the southern border. When you talk about common sense, that’s the commonsense thing to do.”
    “He’s successful. I wanna be a billionare.”
    [Interviewer: “Tell me what a Trump presidency would look like?”] “Classy.”
    “I think we could be a proud America again.”
    “To the American people it would be a presidency of hope.”

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  106. Yes, it was hateful rhetoric upthread, to be sure.
    Was there some misunderstanding?
    I’m not running for President … that could change … but if I did as a Republican, my hateful rhetoric would place me within the top ten of FOX’s cut-off lollapalooza limit for hateful rhetoric, the linqua franca the Republican Party uses to speak to and hold on to its 27% base, my recent polling shows.
    Ask any RINO driven from office these last 15 years or so.
    I haven’t yet promised to pass a law, if elected, to permit hateful rhetoric in movie theaters yet, but I’m thinking about it since that’s all I have to carry in self-defense.

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  107. Yes, it was hateful rhetoric upthread, to be sure.
    Was there some misunderstanding?
    I’m not running for President … that could change … but if I did as a Republican, my hateful rhetoric would place me within the top ten of FOX’s cut-off lollapalooza limit for hateful rhetoric, the linqua franca the Republican Party uses to speak to and hold on to its 27% base, my recent polling shows.
    Ask any RINO driven from office these last 15 years or so.
    I haven’t yet promised to pass a law, if elected, to permit hateful rhetoric in movie theaters yet, but I’m thinking about it since that’s all I have to carry in self-defense.

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  108. Yes, it was hateful rhetoric upthread, to be sure.
    Was there some misunderstanding?
    I’m not running for President … that could change … but if I did as a Republican, my hateful rhetoric would place me within the top ten of FOX’s cut-off lollapalooza limit for hateful rhetoric, the linqua franca the Republican Party uses to speak to and hold on to its 27% base, my recent polling shows.
    Ask any RINO driven from office these last 15 years or so.
    I haven’t yet promised to pass a law, if elected, to permit hateful rhetoric in movie theaters yet, but I’m thinking about it since that’s all I have to carry in self-defense.

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  109. Yes, it was hateful rhetoric upthread, to be sure.
    Was there some misunderstanding?
    I’m not running for President … that could change … but if I did as a Republican, my hateful rhetoric would place me within the top ten of FOX’s cut-off lollapalooza limit for hateful rhetoric, the linqua franca the Republican Party uses to speak to and hold on to its 27% base, my recent polling shows.
    Ask any RINO driven from office these last 15 years or so.
    I haven’t yet promised to pass a law, if elected, to permit hateful rhetoric in movie theaters yet, but I’m thinking about it since that’s all I have to carry in self-defense.

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  110. Yes, it was hateful rhetoric upthread, to be sure.
    Was there some misunderstanding?
    I’m not running for President … that could change … but if I did as a Republican, my hateful rhetoric would place me within the top ten of FOX’s cut-off lollapalooza limit for hateful rhetoric, the linqua franca the Republican Party uses to speak to and hold on to its 27% base, my recent polling shows.
    Ask any RINO driven from office these last 15 years or so.
    I haven’t yet promised to pass a law, if elected, to permit hateful rhetoric in movie theaters yet, but I’m thinking about it since that’s all I have to carry in self-defense.

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  111. Yes, it was hateful rhetoric upthread, to be sure.
    Was there some misunderstanding?
    I’m not running for President … that could change … but if I did as a Republican, my hateful rhetoric would place me within the top ten of FOX’s cut-off lollapalooza limit for hateful rhetoric, the linqua franca the Republican Party uses to speak to and hold on to its 27% base, my recent polling shows.
    Ask any RINO driven from office these last 15 years or so.
    I haven’t yet promised to pass a law, if elected, to permit hateful rhetoric in movie theaters yet, but I’m thinking about it since that’s all I have to carry in self-defense.

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  112. I, for one, look forward to Pres. Trump’s renovation of the White House resulting in new heights of garish bad taste, beyond that attained by overachievers such as Napoleon Bonaparte.
    Or, to put it in the modern parlance, he’ll “pimp his crib”.

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  113. I, for one, look forward to Pres. Trump’s renovation of the White House resulting in new heights of garish bad taste, beyond that attained by overachievers such as Napoleon Bonaparte.
    Or, to put it in the modern parlance, he’ll “pimp his crib”.

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  114. I, for one, look forward to Pres. Trump’s renovation of the White House resulting in new heights of garish bad taste, beyond that attained by overachievers such as Napoleon Bonaparte.
    Or, to put it in the modern parlance, he’ll “pimp his crib”.

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  115. Jeb Bush made his red meat Medicare comments before the Koch Brothers and their cadres, who have hated Medicare, Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps, you name it, their entire lives, since Daddy John Birch programmed them as kids to finance the biggest outbreak of hate speech toward liberals, moderates, and the poor since John Wilkes Booth was on stage in the late 1850s, before he began hanging out in the shadows behind the audience.
    I believe they might call Jeb Bush “Mr.President” one day, once he secures their hate money to his campaign coffers.
    If only someone upthread could work a “rough” crowd like that.

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  116. Jeb Bush made his red meat Medicare comments before the Koch Brothers and their cadres, who have hated Medicare, Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps, you name it, their entire lives, since Daddy John Birch programmed them as kids to finance the biggest outbreak of hate speech toward liberals, moderates, and the poor since John Wilkes Booth was on stage in the late 1850s, before he began hanging out in the shadows behind the audience.
    I believe they might call Jeb Bush “Mr.President” one day, once he secures their hate money to his campaign coffers.
    If only someone upthread could work a “rough” crowd like that.

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  117. Jeb Bush made his red meat Medicare comments before the Koch Brothers and their cadres, who have hated Medicare, Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps, you name it, their entire lives, since Daddy John Birch programmed them as kids to finance the biggest outbreak of hate speech toward liberals, moderates, and the poor since John Wilkes Booth was on stage in the late 1850s, before he began hanging out in the shadows behind the audience.
    I believe they might call Jeb Bush “Mr.President” one day, once he secures their hate money to his campaign coffers.
    If only someone upthread could work a “rough” crowd like that.

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  118. What is the minimum amount of work Trump has to do, while maximizing his payoff from the Koch’s to drop out of the race.
    Snarki, you are assuming that what Trump is after is money. But on what evidence? It seems at least as likely that he is in it strictly for the ego-boo.
    In which case, it won’t be possible to buy him out of the race — no matter how much they try. His candidacy will have to flame out on primary votes.

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  119. What is the minimum amount of work Trump has to do, while maximizing his payoff from the Koch’s to drop out of the race.
    Snarki, you are assuming that what Trump is after is money. But on what evidence? It seems at least as likely that he is in it strictly for the ego-boo.
    In which case, it won’t be possible to buy him out of the race — no matter how much they try. His candidacy will have to flame out on primary votes.

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  120. What is the minimum amount of work Trump has to do, while maximizing his payoff from the Koch’s to drop out of the race.
    Snarki, you are assuming that what Trump is after is money. But on what evidence? It seems at least as likely that he is in it strictly for the ego-boo.
    In which case, it won’t be possible to buy him out of the race — no matter how much they try. His candidacy will have to flame out on primary votes.

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  121. i fully believe that Trump is in the race to win.
    he probably sincerely thinks national-level politicians are idiots who he’ll have no trouble pushing around – he’s had great success pushing around NY/NJ pols, after all. and he probably thinks the way all those loser career politicians are campaigning is beneath him. policy? bah. he’s just going to keep doing what’s been working so far; he’s going to try to bully his way to the White House. and he’ll only stop if he slips far enough in the polls that it stops being fun for him.
    it’s vanity, sure. but nobody runs for President on humility.

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  122. i fully believe that Trump is in the race to win.
    he probably sincerely thinks national-level politicians are idiots who he’ll have no trouble pushing around – he’s had great success pushing around NY/NJ pols, after all. and he probably thinks the way all those loser career politicians are campaigning is beneath him. policy? bah. he’s just going to keep doing what’s been working so far; he’s going to try to bully his way to the White House. and he’ll only stop if he slips far enough in the polls that it stops being fun for him.
    it’s vanity, sure. but nobody runs for President on humility.

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  123. i fully believe that Trump is in the race to win.
    he probably sincerely thinks national-level politicians are idiots who he’ll have no trouble pushing around – he’s had great success pushing around NY/NJ pols, after all. and he probably thinks the way all those loser career politicians are campaigning is beneath him. policy? bah. he’s just going to keep doing what’s been working so far; he’s going to try to bully his way to the White House. and he’ll only stop if he slips far enough in the polls that it stops being fun for him.
    it’s vanity, sure. but nobody runs for President on humility.

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  124. I sincerely hope that Trump doesn’t make it past the primaries. I would not want him as president.
    I see my choices driven a lot more by “do not want” than “want”. Not sure if that is getting worse, or if I am just noticing it more.

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  125. I sincerely hope that Trump doesn’t make it past the primaries. I would not want him as president.
    I see my choices driven a lot more by “do not want” than “want”. Not sure if that is getting worse, or if I am just noticing it more.

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  126. I sincerely hope that Trump doesn’t make it past the primaries. I would not want him as president.
    I see my choices driven a lot more by “do not want” than “want”. Not sure if that is getting worse, or if I am just noticing it more.

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  127. I’d like to see this thread revised to remove the adjective “hateful” from the term “hateful rhetoric” from someone upthread’s comment which called out someone else upthread:
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ap-history-revisions-ronald-reagan
    In my run for President, I’m trying to address practical measures that will bring us all together as a nation and a people. For example, if elected, I will ask Congress for legislation which will mandate that movie theaters across the country announce over their audio system that precisely two minutes will be permitted AFTER the previews and BEFORE the main feature to bring up the lights for unlimited exchanges of gunfire by and between movie patrons.
    Starting ….. NOW.
    This would allow the theater to fill up and the patrons to settle in with their popcorn, 64-0z type-II diabetes booster drink, and their safeties off to get ready for maximum freedom.
    After that two-minute time period, any additional gunfire will be cause for punishment and evacuating the theater.
    I’m sure that I can convince people of good faith on either side of Second Amendment controversies — the NRA, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal on the one side, and Mothers Against Gun Violence, including Perry’s, Jindal’s and every NRA members’ mothers on the other side, to approve this landmark compromise.
    I’d have included the mandatory provision of a small tax in the bill to subsidize the janitorial cleanup of the blood and gore in the movie theaters, but Grover Norquist and Jeb Bush, among others, called this a non-starter and a legislation-killer.
    Norquist, in particular, and the Society for the Preservation of the Booth Legacy, further objected that cleaning up the theaters in between shootings would give movie patrons an unrealistic impression of American freedoms and what our forefathers intended for our full, free use of guns and theaters.

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  128. I’d like to see this thread revised to remove the adjective “hateful” from the term “hateful rhetoric” from someone upthread’s comment which called out someone else upthread:
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ap-history-revisions-ronald-reagan
    In my run for President, I’m trying to address practical measures that will bring us all together as a nation and a people. For example, if elected, I will ask Congress for legislation which will mandate that movie theaters across the country announce over their audio system that precisely two minutes will be permitted AFTER the previews and BEFORE the main feature to bring up the lights for unlimited exchanges of gunfire by and between movie patrons.
    Starting ….. NOW.
    This would allow the theater to fill up and the patrons to settle in with their popcorn, 64-0z type-II diabetes booster drink, and their safeties off to get ready for maximum freedom.
    After that two-minute time period, any additional gunfire will be cause for punishment and evacuating the theater.
    I’m sure that I can convince people of good faith on either side of Second Amendment controversies — the NRA, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal on the one side, and Mothers Against Gun Violence, including Perry’s, Jindal’s and every NRA members’ mothers on the other side, to approve this landmark compromise.
    I’d have included the mandatory provision of a small tax in the bill to subsidize the janitorial cleanup of the blood and gore in the movie theaters, but Grover Norquist and Jeb Bush, among others, called this a non-starter and a legislation-killer.
    Norquist, in particular, and the Society for the Preservation of the Booth Legacy, further objected that cleaning up the theaters in between shootings would give movie patrons an unrealistic impression of American freedoms and what our forefathers intended for our full, free use of guns and theaters.

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  129. I’d like to see this thread revised to remove the adjective “hateful” from the term “hateful rhetoric” from someone upthread’s comment which called out someone else upthread:
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ap-history-revisions-ronald-reagan
    In my run for President, I’m trying to address practical measures that will bring us all together as a nation and a people. For example, if elected, I will ask Congress for legislation which will mandate that movie theaters across the country announce over their audio system that precisely two minutes will be permitted AFTER the previews and BEFORE the main feature to bring up the lights for unlimited exchanges of gunfire by and between movie patrons.
    Starting ….. NOW.
    This would allow the theater to fill up and the patrons to settle in with their popcorn, 64-0z type-II diabetes booster drink, and their safeties off to get ready for maximum freedom.
    After that two-minute time period, any additional gunfire will be cause for punishment and evacuating the theater.
    I’m sure that I can convince people of good faith on either side of Second Amendment controversies — the NRA, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal on the one side, and Mothers Against Gun Violence, including Perry’s, Jindal’s and every NRA members’ mothers on the other side, to approve this landmark compromise.
    I’d have included the mandatory provision of a small tax in the bill to subsidize the janitorial cleanup of the blood and gore in the movie theaters, but Grover Norquist and Jeb Bush, among others, called this a non-starter and a legislation-killer.
    Norquist, in particular, and the Society for the Preservation of the Booth Legacy, further objected that cleaning up the theaters in between shootings would give movie patrons an unrealistic impression of American freedoms and what our forefathers intended for our full, free use of guns and theaters.

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  130. wj, agreed, I’m pretty sure that ego-boo is Trump’s main motivation. But really campaigning (or worse, governing) is actual work…and unless one is a natural politician, not enjoyable work.
    Now, one can question whether a “payoff” would be enough to get Trump to drop out, considering how rich he is already; but if someone like Trump ever had “enough money”, he wouldn’t be who he is. And what a payoff can do is give the ego-boo of “winning” the game, without risking being a “loser” in the election, or having to deal with the consequences of winning.
    For the Kochs, paying $250M to Trump (or ‘investing’ in his latest boondoggle) just to get him out of the race is probably one of their more effective uses of political money.
    But we’ll see, and I, for one, will enjoy the spectacle, as long as it lasts.

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  131. wj, agreed, I’m pretty sure that ego-boo is Trump’s main motivation. But really campaigning (or worse, governing) is actual work…and unless one is a natural politician, not enjoyable work.
    Now, one can question whether a “payoff” would be enough to get Trump to drop out, considering how rich he is already; but if someone like Trump ever had “enough money”, he wouldn’t be who he is. And what a payoff can do is give the ego-boo of “winning” the game, without risking being a “loser” in the election, or having to deal with the consequences of winning.
    For the Kochs, paying $250M to Trump (or ‘investing’ in his latest boondoggle) just to get him out of the race is probably one of their more effective uses of political money.
    But we’ll see, and I, for one, will enjoy the spectacle, as long as it lasts.

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  132. wj, agreed, I’m pretty sure that ego-boo is Trump’s main motivation. But really campaigning (or worse, governing) is actual work…and unless one is a natural politician, not enjoyable work.
    Now, one can question whether a “payoff” would be enough to get Trump to drop out, considering how rich he is already; but if someone like Trump ever had “enough money”, he wouldn’t be who he is. And what a payoff can do is give the ego-boo of “winning” the game, without risking being a “loser” in the election, or having to deal with the consequences of winning.
    For the Kochs, paying $250M to Trump (or ‘investing’ in his latest boondoggle) just to get him out of the race is probably one of their more effective uses of political money.
    But we’ll see, and I, for one, will enjoy the spectacle, as long as it lasts.

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  133. Heh:
    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/30/donald-trump-appeals-for-the-sarah-palin-vote/?_r=0
    He’s a man with a p(a)lin.
    Gotta say, with the Death Palin as Secretary of State, I can see the major thrust of our foreign policy toward whatever diplomatic institutions manage to remain intact after January 2017 beginning and probably ending with dense paragraphs of idiotic, ungrammatical gibberish issuing forth from Foggy Bottom (of the barrel) threatening imminent and eternal war against all.
    Heads of foreign governments will follow the Republican Party’s example and fire all of the smart folks running their institutions, and hire dimwitted, pigf*cking dumbsh*ts from their populations, just to decipher the blizzard of unreadable diplomatic cables sent out over Facebook, since the latter are the most likely to speak the language of pig vermin Americans.
    Trump believes he and Putin will work in hand in glove, because unlike most politicians, both can take their shirts off and manage.
    He co-opts the Putin-envy among Obama-hating American filth, tens of millions of them.
    Trump’s gotta plan to round-up to round up 11 million human beings and deport them cause he knows how to manage, private sector style.
    Hitler followed a similar plan when he plucked Heinrich Himmler from his rousing success in private sector chicken farming with its authoritarian, fascist, fire-at-will procedures to move great numbers of human beings across borders for processing.
    With Palin as Secretary of State, imagine what the appointments for ambassadors will look like.
    Steven Seagal as Ambassador to the Kremlin, after his vast experience licking Putin’s gluts in the Ukraine.
    Ted Nugent off to South Africa to work with a resurgent Boer government on their, ahem, population problems.
    Bristol Palin off to Peking to punch out the Chinese leadership and show up at state banquets with a chopstick inserted in each nostril and oinking “mu shu this, slanteyes!”
    Sean Hannity, hovering over Mexico City in a helicopter, commandeering a high powered machine gun from under his backwards baseball cap and presenting his diplomatic credentials.
    Michael Savage as White House spokesman.
    Trump might be the culmination of the 50-year long march by the Republican Party and its right-wing base to institute its ruthless, murderous, pigf8cking intentions for America.
    But I doubt it.
    They have an endless supply of bloodthirsty vermin ready on the sidelines. Tens of millions of them who WANT.

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  134. Heh:
    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/30/donald-trump-appeals-for-the-sarah-palin-vote/?_r=0
    He’s a man with a p(a)lin.
    Gotta say, with the Death Palin as Secretary of State, I can see the major thrust of our foreign policy toward whatever diplomatic institutions manage to remain intact after January 2017 beginning and probably ending with dense paragraphs of idiotic, ungrammatical gibberish issuing forth from Foggy Bottom (of the barrel) threatening imminent and eternal war against all.
    Heads of foreign governments will follow the Republican Party’s example and fire all of the smart folks running their institutions, and hire dimwitted, pigf*cking dumbsh*ts from their populations, just to decipher the blizzard of unreadable diplomatic cables sent out over Facebook, since the latter are the most likely to speak the language of pig vermin Americans.
    Trump believes he and Putin will work in hand in glove, because unlike most politicians, both can take their shirts off and manage.
    He co-opts the Putin-envy among Obama-hating American filth, tens of millions of them.
    Trump’s gotta plan to round-up to round up 11 million human beings and deport them cause he knows how to manage, private sector style.
    Hitler followed a similar plan when he plucked Heinrich Himmler from his rousing success in private sector chicken farming with its authoritarian, fascist, fire-at-will procedures to move great numbers of human beings across borders for processing.
    With Palin as Secretary of State, imagine what the appointments for ambassadors will look like.
    Steven Seagal as Ambassador to the Kremlin, after his vast experience licking Putin’s gluts in the Ukraine.
    Ted Nugent off to South Africa to work with a resurgent Boer government on their, ahem, population problems.
    Bristol Palin off to Peking to punch out the Chinese leadership and show up at state banquets with a chopstick inserted in each nostril and oinking “mu shu this, slanteyes!”
    Sean Hannity, hovering over Mexico City in a helicopter, commandeering a high powered machine gun from under his backwards baseball cap and presenting his diplomatic credentials.
    Michael Savage as White House spokesman.
    Trump might be the culmination of the 50-year long march by the Republican Party and its right-wing base to institute its ruthless, murderous, pigf8cking intentions for America.
    But I doubt it.
    They have an endless supply of bloodthirsty vermin ready on the sidelines. Tens of millions of them who WANT.

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  135. Heh:
    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/07/30/donald-trump-appeals-for-the-sarah-palin-vote/?_r=0
    He’s a man with a p(a)lin.
    Gotta say, with the Death Palin as Secretary of State, I can see the major thrust of our foreign policy toward whatever diplomatic institutions manage to remain intact after January 2017 beginning and probably ending with dense paragraphs of idiotic, ungrammatical gibberish issuing forth from Foggy Bottom (of the barrel) threatening imminent and eternal war against all.
    Heads of foreign governments will follow the Republican Party’s example and fire all of the smart folks running their institutions, and hire dimwitted, pigf*cking dumbsh*ts from their populations, just to decipher the blizzard of unreadable diplomatic cables sent out over Facebook, since the latter are the most likely to speak the language of pig vermin Americans.
    Trump believes he and Putin will work in hand in glove, because unlike most politicians, both can take their shirts off and manage.
    He co-opts the Putin-envy among Obama-hating American filth, tens of millions of them.
    Trump’s gotta plan to round-up to round up 11 million human beings and deport them cause he knows how to manage, private sector style.
    Hitler followed a similar plan when he plucked Heinrich Himmler from his rousing success in private sector chicken farming with its authoritarian, fascist, fire-at-will procedures to move great numbers of human beings across borders for processing.
    With Palin as Secretary of State, imagine what the appointments for ambassadors will look like.
    Steven Seagal as Ambassador to the Kremlin, after his vast experience licking Putin’s gluts in the Ukraine.
    Ted Nugent off to South Africa to work with a resurgent Boer government on their, ahem, population problems.
    Bristol Palin off to Peking to punch out the Chinese leadership and show up at state banquets with a chopstick inserted in each nostril and oinking “mu shu this, slanteyes!”
    Sean Hannity, hovering over Mexico City in a helicopter, commandeering a high powered machine gun from under his backwards baseball cap and presenting his diplomatic credentials.
    Michael Savage as White House spokesman.
    Trump might be the culmination of the 50-year long march by the Republican Party and its right-wing base to institute its ruthless, murderous, pigf8cking intentions for America.
    But I doubt it.
    They have an endless supply of bloodthirsty vermin ready on the sidelines. Tens of millions of them who WANT.

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  136. I forget Phyllis Schlafly for Head of the newly formed Office of Spousal Rape Deniability under the Very Little Health and Inhuman Services Department.
    She could hop out in a crotchless bunny suit to meet the press and afterwards wink and ask her fiance John Wayne Bobbit to unzip her.

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  137. I forget Phyllis Schlafly for Head of the newly formed Office of Spousal Rape Deniability under the Very Little Health and Inhuman Services Department.
    She could hop out in a crotchless bunny suit to meet the press and afterwards wink and ask her fiance John Wayne Bobbit to unzip her.

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  138. I forget Phyllis Schlafly for Head of the newly formed Office of Spousal Rape Deniability under the Very Little Health and Inhuman Services Department.
    She could hop out in a crotchless bunny suit to meet the press and afterwards wink and ask her fiance John Wayne Bobbit to unzip her.

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  139. today’s GOP looks like an off-Broadway show where actors playing stiff old white guys recite the most ridiculous letters from the local newspaper’s readers’ opinion pages.

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  140. today’s GOP looks like an off-Broadway show where actors playing stiff old white guys recite the most ridiculous letters from the local newspaper’s readers’ opinion pages.

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  141. today’s GOP looks like an off-Broadway show where actors playing stiff old white guys recite the most ridiculous letters from the local newspaper’s readers’ opinion pages.

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  142. today’s GOP looks like a Broadway show, produced by Max Bialystok, to fleece the investors while delivering a resounding flop.
    “This play’s guaranteed to close on PAGE FOUR!”
    The characters, the themes, the musical numbers that are performed at private meetings of big donors…all match up.
    Mel Brooks was a prophetic genius.

    Leo Bloom: Let’s assume, just for the moment, that you are a dishonest man.
    Max Bialystock: Assume away.

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  143. today’s GOP looks like a Broadway show, produced by Max Bialystok, to fleece the investors while delivering a resounding flop.
    “This play’s guaranteed to close on PAGE FOUR!”
    The characters, the themes, the musical numbers that are performed at private meetings of big donors…all match up.
    Mel Brooks was a prophetic genius.

    Leo Bloom: Let’s assume, just for the moment, that you are a dishonest man.
    Max Bialystock: Assume away.

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  144. today’s GOP looks like a Broadway show, produced by Max Bialystok, to fleece the investors while delivering a resounding flop.
    “This play’s guaranteed to close on PAGE FOUR!”
    The characters, the themes, the musical numbers that are performed at private meetings of big donors…all match up.
    Mel Brooks was a prophetic genius.

    Leo Bloom: Let’s assume, just for the moment, that you are a dishonest man.
    Max Bialystock: Assume away.

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  145. Also sprach Koch Bros grand policy strategist:

    We’re taking these 500,000 people that would’ve had a job, and putting them unemployed

    It gives me a warm feeling deep in my heart to hear this man’s concern for the un- and underemployed.
    My personal favorite among the various things declared to be “just like the Nazis” over the last few months was the requirement that doctors and nurses ask patients for their birth date before rendering care to them.
    The guy who made the claim was, amazingly, not an idiot, and the claim was made, amazingly, at a table full of people who had actually lived through WWII and had lost extended family to the Nazis.
    Even more amazingly, nobody punched the guy in the face, although I came close.
    It used to be hard to be a Nazi. You had to believe in white supremacy, and the right if not duty of racially determined supermen to conquer, enslave, and rule the rest of the world.
    These days, all you have to do is require somebody to have a town sticker on their car in order to use the dump.
    It’s very very small beer, being a Nazi these days.

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  146. Also sprach Koch Bros grand policy strategist:

    We’re taking these 500,000 people that would’ve had a job, and putting them unemployed

    It gives me a warm feeling deep in my heart to hear this man’s concern for the un- and underemployed.
    My personal favorite among the various things declared to be “just like the Nazis” over the last few months was the requirement that doctors and nurses ask patients for their birth date before rendering care to them.
    The guy who made the claim was, amazingly, not an idiot, and the claim was made, amazingly, at a table full of people who had actually lived through WWII and had lost extended family to the Nazis.
    Even more amazingly, nobody punched the guy in the face, although I came close.
    It used to be hard to be a Nazi. You had to believe in white supremacy, and the right if not duty of racially determined supermen to conquer, enslave, and rule the rest of the world.
    These days, all you have to do is require somebody to have a town sticker on their car in order to use the dump.
    It’s very very small beer, being a Nazi these days.

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  147. Also sprach Koch Bros grand policy strategist:

    We’re taking these 500,000 people that would’ve had a job, and putting them unemployed

    It gives me a warm feeling deep in my heart to hear this man’s concern for the un- and underemployed.
    My personal favorite among the various things declared to be “just like the Nazis” over the last few months was the requirement that doctors and nurses ask patients for their birth date before rendering care to them.
    The guy who made the claim was, amazingly, not an idiot, and the claim was made, amazingly, at a table full of people who had actually lived through WWII and had lost extended family to the Nazis.
    Even more amazingly, nobody punched the guy in the face, although I came close.
    It used to be hard to be a Nazi. You had to believe in white supremacy, and the right if not duty of racially determined supermen to conquer, enslave, and rule the rest of the world.
    These days, all you have to do is require somebody to have a town sticker on their car in order to use the dump.
    It’s very very small beer, being a Nazi these days.

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  148. Plus, the guy’s name is Richard Fink.
    Seriously, I think it’s all some kind of performance art joke. The Koch’s are having us on.

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  149. Plus, the guy’s name is Richard Fink.
    Seriously, I think it’s all some kind of performance art joke. The Koch’s are having us on.

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  150. Plus, the guy’s name is Richard Fink.
    Seriously, I think it’s all some kind of performance art joke. The Koch’s are having us on.

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  151. today’s GOP looks like an off-Broadway show where actors playing stiff old white guys recite the most ridiculous letters from the local newspaper’s readers’ opinion pages.
    It’s easy to miss just how important Sullivan was to Gilbert. Obviously what today’s GOP needs is a decent composer.
    Of course, Gilbert was consciously and deliberately satirizing the Royal Navy (HMS Pinafore), the British Civil Service (Mikado), and the British Army (Pirates of Penzance). Whereas the GOP appears to be unconsciously satarizing itself.
    Hey, when you’ve got natural talent, you don’t need to work at it. But you still need a composer if you are going to produce something for the ages.

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  152. today’s GOP looks like an off-Broadway show where actors playing stiff old white guys recite the most ridiculous letters from the local newspaper’s readers’ opinion pages.
    It’s easy to miss just how important Sullivan was to Gilbert. Obviously what today’s GOP needs is a decent composer.
    Of course, Gilbert was consciously and deliberately satirizing the Royal Navy (HMS Pinafore), the British Civil Service (Mikado), and the British Army (Pirates of Penzance). Whereas the GOP appears to be unconsciously satarizing itself.
    Hey, when you’ve got natural talent, you don’t need to work at it. But you still need a composer if you are going to produce something for the ages.

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  153. today’s GOP looks like an off-Broadway show where actors playing stiff old white guys recite the most ridiculous letters from the local newspaper’s readers’ opinion pages.
    It’s easy to miss just how important Sullivan was to Gilbert. Obviously what today’s GOP needs is a decent composer.
    Of course, Gilbert was consciously and deliberately satirizing the Royal Navy (HMS Pinafore), the British Civil Service (Mikado), and the British Army (Pirates of Penzance). Whereas the GOP appears to be unconsciously satarizing itself.
    Hey, when you’ve got natural talent, you don’t need to work at it. But you still need a composer if you are going to produce something for the ages.

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  154. Let’s remember that Bialystock and Bloom got it wrong: “Springtime for Hitler” turned into a boffo box-office hit.
    You always have to guard against the possibility that the audience won’t get the joke, whether you’re producing musical OR political theater.
    –TP

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  155. Let’s remember that Bialystock and Bloom got it wrong: “Springtime for Hitler” turned into a boffo box-office hit.
    You always have to guard against the possibility that the audience won’t get the joke, whether you’re producing musical OR political theater.
    –TP

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  156. Let’s remember that Bialystock and Bloom got it wrong: “Springtime for Hitler” turned into a boffo box-office hit.
    You always have to guard against the possibility that the audience won’t get the joke, whether you’re producing musical OR political theater.
    –TP

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  157. Monmouth has polled the evolving GOP primary in April, June and July. And over that period Donald Trump’s favorable ratings have gone from 28% to 52%, while his unfavorables have gone from 56% to 35%. To put that a different way he’s gone from a -28% net approval to a +17% net approval .

    the GOP base is really warming to him.
    exxxxcellllent.

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  158. Monmouth has polled the evolving GOP primary in April, June and July. And over that period Donald Trump’s favorable ratings have gone from 28% to 52%, while his unfavorables have gone from 56% to 35%. To put that a different way he’s gone from a -28% net approval to a +17% net approval .

    the GOP base is really warming to him.
    exxxxcellllent.

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  159. Monmouth has polled the evolving GOP primary in April, June and July. And over that period Donald Trump’s favorable ratings have gone from 28% to 52%, while his unfavorables have gone from 56% to 35%. To put that a different way he’s gone from a -28% net approval to a +17% net approval .

    the GOP base is really warming to him.
    exxxxcellllent.

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